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Radical Plato · « **Reply #300 on:** November 17, 2013, 03:00:27 PM »

Realistically, Hendricks has lost 3 of his last 4 fights, considering he was gifted the Carlos Condit and Josh Koscheck fights. Considering this, he doesn't really deserve a rematch.

arce1988 · « **Reply #301 on:** November 17, 2013, 03:03:29 PM »

I do feel that JH lost to Carlos and Josh.

Radical Plato · « **Reply #302 on:** November 17, 2013, 03:06:57 PM »

Quote from: arce1988 on November 17, 2013, 03:03:29 PM

I do feel that JH lost to Carlos and Josh.

I do too, I am just watching the Josh Koscheck vs Johny Hendricks fight again now. I admit I am trolling the Johny Hendricks fans, and I accept he is a pretty good fighter and a case can easily be made for him beating GSP, I just can't stand his attitude. Love or hate GSP, HIS CLASS IS UNDENIABLE. Same with Carlos Condit - ALL CLASS

PS: I hope Koscheck doesn't retire, he still has a few good fights in him yet. Woodley is a BEAST

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #303 on:** November 17, 2013, 03:40:13 PM »

Quote from: E-Kul on November 17, 2013, 03:06:57 PM

I do too, I am just watching the Josh Koscheck vs Johny Hendricks fight again now. I admit I am trolling the Johny Hendricks fans, and I accept he is a pretty good fighter and a case can easily be made for him beating GSP, I just can't stand his attitude. Love or hate GSP, HIS CLASS IS UNDENIABLE. Same with Carlos Condit - ALL CLASS

PS: I hope Koscheck doesn't retire, he still has a few good fights in him yet. Woodley is a BEAST

I'm not a Hendricks fan , I told my brother GSP will win before the fight by decision. I was right but when I seen the fight I came to the conclusion he lost like a lot of other people. No shame in losing. GSP will admit he lost the fight to himself one day.

O.Z. · « **Reply #304 on:** November 17, 2013, 04:08:08 PM »

Hendricks can say whatever he wants but he knew if it goes to judges decision he will lose.
I do not know if ever in UFC history challenger beat a champ by decision.
It is always advantage for a champ.
He missed to knock him out therefore he lost.

The Revelation · « **Reply #305 on:** November 17, 2013, 04:09:33 PM »

even Dana White said the he was 'blown away that (Hendricks) didn't win that fight'

he said fighting is about damage inflicted. johny rocked GSP and inflicted more damage.

WalterWhite · « **Reply #306 on:** November 17, 2013, 04:16:40 PM »

Quote from: arce1988 on November 17, 2013, 02:57:05 PM

I thought that JH was going to KO GSP. That is a victory for GSP alone. (I wanted GSP to win, but felt he would lose via KO, TKO)

I was thinking the same thing about the KO but Josh also surprised me with his level of fitness. Fending off those takedowns hoping on one leg was also impressive.

The Wizard of Truth · « **Reply #307 on:** November 17, 2013, 04:38:36 PM »

Quote from: O.Z. on November 17, 2013, 04:08:08 PM

Hendricks can say whatever he wants but he knew if it goes to judges decision he will lose.
I do not know if ever in UFC history challenger beat a champ by decision.
It is always advantage for a champ.
He missed to knock him out therefore he lost.

Velasquaz v dos santos 2

O.Z. · « **Reply #308 on:** November 17, 2013, 04:47:59 PM »

Quote from: Imako on November 17, 2013, 04:38:36 PM

Velasquaz v dos santos 2

you are right. Still cannot believe that Santos survived all 5 rounds in that match. That was complete destruction by Cane.

Radical Plato · « **Reply #309 on:** November 17, 2013, 05:28:22 PM »

Quote from: The Revelation on November 17, 2013, 04:09:33 PM

even Dana White said the he was 'blown away that (Hendricks) didn't win that fight'

he said fighting is about damage inflicted. johny rocked GSP and inflicted more damage.

Except it's not. Dana is a fight promoter, he isn't even a martial artist. MMA isn't a street fight, it's a technical mixed martial arts contest with a scoring system. If it was based on damage, some guy could be easily beaten for 4 rounds and then he could land ONE damaging blow in the last round and then WIN the fight. It doesn't work like that. The only damaging blows that matter are the ones that STOP your opponent, and Johny wasn't able to stop GSP.

arce1988 · « **Reply #310 on:** November 17, 2013, 05:49:07 PM »

JH did show good balance... but if you want a real display of that... look at BJ Penn... he was the master of that hop... this all said... GSP took JH down more than JH too him down... and that first one was lightning...

Wolfox · « **Reply #311 on:** November 17, 2013, 05:54:57 PM »

Word is GSP has memory problems. Something about not being able to remember days of training that took place. He forgets what he does earlier in the day. It was on Joe Rogans podcast...i havent listened to it yet.

Also note how gsp is smaller now. Not as much muscle as before. Maybe it is time to hang it up. I hope he does if he has memory problems.

arce1988 · « **Reply #312 on:** November 17, 2013, 05:57:37 PM »

gsp used to use deca and test in 2004

Wolfox · « **Reply #313 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:01:57 PM »

Quote from: arce1988 on November 17, 2013, 05:57:37 PM

gsp used to use deca and test in 2004

GSP was big way before he even fought in the ufc. Go watch his early fight on youtube...just as big if not bigger than in the ufc. also, he's passed every drug test thrown at him.

arce1988 · « **Reply #314 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:03:16 PM »

I was there with Karo at their bout in Vegas in 2004... GSP was on Deca and Test back then. He is NOT Natural. I am sure that he made the jump to HGH, etc, when his pay went up...

Wolfox · « **Reply #315 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:05:07 PM »

Quote from: arce1988 on November 17, 2013, 06:03:16 PM

I was there with Karo at their bout in Vegas in 2004... GSP was on Deca and Test back then. He is NOT Natural. I am sure that he made the jump to HGH, etc, when his pay went up...

deca stays in your piss a long time so I dont see that. Also, karo is a crybaby ..always making up excuses as to why he gets his,ass handed to him.

if you didn't see gsp inject don't make those claims.

arce1988 · « **Reply #316 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:05:36 PM »

Wolfox · « **Reply #317 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:07:42 PM »

"Do you know who I am, bro?"

Dude has a pissy attitude like most of his kind.

arce1988 · « **Reply #318 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:11:47 PM »

Karo got worked. He was not in shape. He tried to submit GSP early and get it over with. Shit happens. No excuse. He was not in shape at all. That is his fault. That is my fault. He lost. We lost. End of story. GSP though, is NOT natural. He was NOT in 2004, and he is NOT now.

Wolfox · « **Reply #319 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:12:45 PM »

Quote from: arce1988 on November 17, 2013, 06:11:47 PM

Karo got worked. He was not in shape. He tried to submit GSP early and get it over with. Shit happens. No excuse. He was not in shape at all. That is his fault. That is my fault. He lost. We lost. End of story. GSP though, is NOT natural. He was NOT in 2004, and he is NOT now.

All the peds in the world couldn't give Karo a victory over GSP.

arce1988 · « **Reply #320 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:13:29 PM »

http://i4.bebo.com/052/8/large/2010/09/21/18/8184097677a12760588806l.jpg

Wolfox · « **Reply #321 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:15:16 PM »

Karo always had excuses. Never could take a loss like a man.

arce1988 · « **Reply #322 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:18:26 PM »

I know. I agree. Karo does have a huge ego. He just got subbed by a small guy, and even now he will not admit it. He said he tapped because of his jaw being hurt from the knee. NOT the guillotine.

arce1988 · « **Reply #323 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:20:45 PM »

Wolfox · « **Reply #324 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:22:22 PM »

I used to be a fan of his. Excuse after excuse and the attitude had me change my mind.