Lets get something straight, delusional libtards.

[dario73]

This is not only about a defective website.

This is about having the choice to select whatever insurance plan that meets the individual need. It is about having the choice to keep your plan and doctor.

The website will be up and running soon. Millions of americans will sign up, not because they WANT TO, but because THEY HAVE TO. It's the law as you like to point out.

But no amount of computer programming will erase the fact that, so far, EVERYTHING that Republicans warned about crapcare was correct.

If they are correct about premiums increasing for most people, there will be hell to pay by your party in the midterms.

[Soul Crusher]

http://nypost.com/2013/11/01/obama-donors-firm-hired-to-fix-web-mess-it-helped-make

[dario73]

http://nypost.com/2013/11/01/obama-donors-firm-hired-to-fix-web-mess-it-helped-make

This is the CHANGE we needed.

Oh, but Bush did the same thing.

[RRKore]

Out of laziness, I haven't read every word of these articles at these links, so please let me know if I'm leaving out some important info.
Thanks.

From:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/10/obamacares-three-per-cent.html
About eighty per cent of Americans are more or less left alone by the health-care act—largely people who have health insurance through their employers. About fourteen per cent of Americans are clear winners: they are currently uninsured and will have access to an affordable insurance policy under the A.C.A.

But much of the current controversy involves the six per cent of Americans who buy their own health care on the individual market, which the A.C.A. has dramatically reformed. Gruber argued that half of these people (three per cent of all Americans) will have little change to their polices. “They have to buy new plans, but they will be pretty similar to what they had before,” he said. “It will essentially be relabeling.”

The other half, however, also three per cent of the population, will have to buy a new product that complies with the A.C.A.’s more stringent requirements for individual plans. A significant portion of these roughly nine million Americans will be forced to buy a new insurance policy with higher premiums than they currently pay. The primary reason for the increased cost is that the A.C.A. bans any plan that would require a people who get sick to pay medical fees greater than six thousand dollars per year. In other words, this was a deliberate policy decision that the White House and Congress made to raise the quality—and thus the premiums—of insurance policies at the bottom end of the individual market.

Graphic form of info above:
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115433/winners-and-losers-obamacare-changes-health-insurance

[tonymctones]

Out of laziness, I haven't read every word of these articles at these links, so please let me know if I'm leaving out some important info.
Thanks.

From:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/10/obamacares-three-per-cent.html
About eighty per cent of Americans are more or less left alone by the health-care act—largely people who have health insurance through their employers. About fourteen per cent of Americans are clear winners: they are currently uninsured and will have access to an affordable insurance policy under the A.C.A.

But much of the current controversy involves the six per cent of Americans who buy their own health care on the individual market, which the A.C.A. has dramatically reformed. Gruber argued that half of these people (three per cent of all Americans) will have little change to their polices. “They have to buy new plans, but they will be pretty similar to what they had before,” he said. “It will essentially be relabeling.”

The other half, however, also three per cent of the population, will have to buy a new product that complies with the A.C.A.’s more stringent requirements for individual plans. A significant portion of these roughly nine million Americans will be forced to buy a new insurance policy with higher premiums than they currently pay. The primary reason for the increased cost is that the A.C.A. bans any plan that would require a people who get sick to pay medical fees greater than six thousand dollars per year. In other words, this was a deliberate policy decision that the White House and Congress made to raise the quality—and thus the premiums—of insurance policies at the bottom end of the individual market.

Graphic form of info above:
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115433/winners-and-losers-obamacare-changes-health-insurance

they employer mandate has not kicked in yet, what makes you think there wont be a similar situation with the employer plans?

[tonymctones]

so 3% is to small for us to worry about is what youre saying?

[RRKore]

so 3% is to small for us to worry about is what youre saying?

Is this seriously coming from the dick who wants us all to ignore the needs of those on welfare because those folks consist mainly of single moms who've dug their own graves?  Bwahaha, idiot.

And yes, 9 million people having to pay some more for their health insurance so that 14 million can get ANY health insurance seem like a fair tradeoff to me.

[RRKore]

they employer mandate has not kicked in yet, what makes you think there wont be a similar situation with the employer plans?

This is a good question to which I don't know the answer.  I guess it depends on how many employers are using so-called "junk" plans.  If you can find any info about this subject I'd be happy to read it, for sure. 

(And if the employer situation IS similar, well, that'd be good stimulus for going to single-payer, I think, hehehe.)

Personally, my company sent me a letter a couple of months ago saying that my plan already conforms to the new regulations and my premiums will not go up.  It also said we can now shop around for other policies and still get them subsidized through work (but I'm far too lazy to do that anytime soon).