GOP GOVERNOR: 'There Seems To Be A War On The Poor' With Republicans In Washingt

[Straw Man]

GOP GOVERNOR: 'There Seems To Be A War On The Poor' With Republicans In Washington

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/john-kasich-war-on-poor-gop-republicans-2013-10#ixzz2jR0XwS7V

Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) criticized members of his party in Washington in an interview with The New York Times published Tuesday, saying there "seems to be a war on the poor."
“I’m concerned about the fact there seems to be a war on the poor,” he told the Times' Trip Gabriel. “That if you’re poor, somehow you’re shiftless and lazy.”

“You know what?” he added. “The very people who complain ought to ask their grandparents if they worked at the W.P.A.”

Kasich has openly bucked his party on the social safety net repeatedly, positing it as an issue of compassionate conservatism. He has said that "more important when you go to heaven than whether you kept government small was what did you do for the poor."

In the most recent example last week, he bypassed his own Republican legislature to expand Ohio's Medicaid program under the Affordable Care Act, bringing health coverage to nearly 300,000 Ohioans. That move was blasted on the right by the Wall Street Journal, among others, which mocked Kasich's religion-based argument and accused him of "feel[ing] like he's being guided by the Holy Spirit."

Kasich has made it clear that he opposes the Affordable Care Act as a whole, but that he feels a responsibility to improve coverage for poor people under Medicaid.

"I've articulated my opposition to Obamacare," Kasich said on "Meet the Press" last Sunday.

"But Chief Justice Roberts gave every state an opportunity to try to get federal dollars to improve Medicaid.  Now, we have many mentally ill people in this country who are being treated terribly. We have people who are drug addicted, and drug addiction is in every demographic, every race, every income level. And we also have many veterans who aren't covered.

"So Ohio gets a good deal. We get $14 billion of Ohio money back to Ohio to deal with some of the most serious problems. And, you know, I'm not going to ignore the mentally ill and I'm not going to ignore the drug addicted or veterans or very working poor people on my watch. But that doesn't mean I embrace Obamacare, because I think it's not right."

[tonymctones]

yup the fact that the majority of welface recipients are single mothers who have never been married with more than one kid, under 30 and have at most a high school diploma if they even have that is a sure sign of a responsible, good decision making, hard working individual.....

[Straw Man]

yup the fact that the majority of welface recipients are single mothers who have never been married with more than one kid, under 30 and have at most a high school diploma if they even have that is a sure sign of a responsible, good decision making, hard working individual.....

more access to contraception and abortions would probably help

sure would be nice if you would EVER provide a source for any of your claims

any idea how many veterans are on welfare?

[tonymctones]

more access to contraception and abortions would probably help

sure would be nice if you would EVER provide a source for any of your claims

any idea how many veterans are on welfare?

LOL there was a thread about this that went on for pages in which libtards try to say it was just happenstance and bad luck that these people were on welfare. That was until i posted facts showing just what I said above.

I dont mind being the one who has to educate you guys but please once your shown these fact reassess your views....

http://www.utexas.edu/depts/ic2/et/learner/general.html

"The welfare population is characterized as mostly single mothers in their 20s and 30s with one or two children."

sounds like some great life decisions going on with this group........

^^^^

Bastions of responsibility and poster boys of good choices those people are:


59% have 2 or more children
54% have never been married
52% are younger than 30

yup bastions of great choices and responsibility these ppl are

[tonymctones]

just happend to be surfing the web and found this:

http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/01/news/economy/food-stamps-families/index.html?hpt=po_c2

Starting Friday, Joyce Lewis and her family will lose $44 from their monthly food stamp benefits.
 
The food stamps buy a lot of economical rice-based meals for the family -- four adults and a grandson who live with Lewis in Spring Hill, Florida.

First thing that struct me was four adults?

seems a little odd to me but ok, then reading on:

"Her adult daughters who live with her aren't in a position to work -- one is a new mom, and another is due to give birth soon."

you see straw I like most conservatives have no problem helping people who need help, that doesnt mean we want the govt telling us we must help ppl who constantly make bad decisions.

[Straw Man]

LOL there was a thread about this that went on for pages in which libtards try to say it was just happenstance and bad luck that these people were on welfare. That was until i posted facts showing just what I said above.

I dont mind being the one who has to educate you guys but please once your shown these fact reassess your views....

you finally learned how to google but apparently you're still having a problem with reading comprehension

do you have any comments related to the article I posted

[tonymctones]

you finally learned how to google but apparently you're still having a problem with reading comprehension

do you have any comments related to the article I posted

you mean like "the reps dont have any health care ideas"? except bush did and it covered more and costed less than this shit sandwich?


LMFAO this is directly related to your article.

You see the majority of these "poor" people are poor due to their shitty decision making, and it should not be anyones mandated responsibility to support someone who puts themselves in a shitty position.

[Straw Man]

you mean like "the reps dont have any health care ideas"? except bush did and it covered more and costed less than this shit sandwich?


LMFAO this is directly related to your article.

You see the majority of these "poor" people are poor due to their shitty decision making, and it should not be anyones mandated responsibility to support someone who puts themselves in a shitty position.

the article is about a GOP governor going against his own party (and his own state Republican legislature) to implement the ACA in his state.  The article is also about how people in his party mocked his "religion-based argument" and accused him of "feel[ing] like he's being guided by the Holy Spirit."

If you want to talk about single mothers who receive welfare then start a thread about it

[Coach is Back!]

more access to contraception and abortions would probably help

sure would be nice if you would EVER provide a source for any of your claims

any idea how many veterans are on welfare?

You lost me at contraception and murder.

[Straw Man]

You lost me at contraception and murder.

you're always lost

what else is new

btw - I never mentioned murder

[tonymctones]

the article is about a GOP governor going against his own party (and his own state Republican legislature) to implement the ACA in his state.  The article is also about how people in his party mocked his "religion-based argument" and accused him of "feel[ing] like he's being guided by the Holy Spirit."

If you want to talk about single mothers who receive welfare then start a thread about it

really by the title this threa is about a GOP Gov saying there is a war on the poor......

[tonymctones]

“I’m concerned about the fact there seems to be a war on the poor,” he told the Times' Trip Gabriel. “That if you’re poor, somehow you’re shiftless and lazy.”

Kasich has openly bucked his party on the social safety net repeatedly, positing it as an issue of compassionate conservatism. He has said that "more important when you go to heaven than whether you kept government small was what did you do for the poor."

[Straw Man]

really by the title this threa is about a GOP Gov saying there is a war on the poor......

congratulations on reading the title and apparently some of the article too

[tonymctones]

congratulations on reading the title and apparently some of the article too

“I’m concerned about the fact there seems to be a war on the poor,” he told the Times' Trip Gabriel. “That if you’re poor, somehow you’re shiftless and lazy.”

Kasich has openly bucked his party on the social safety net repeatedly, positing it as an issue of compassionate conservatism. He has said that "more important when you go to heaven than whether you kept government small was what did you do for the poor."

[Straw Man]

what point are you trying to make

you havent made any comment about Kasichs statement or how his own party is attacking his actions and his religious beliefs

[tonymctones]

what point are you trying to make

you havent made any comment about Kasichs statement or how his own party is attacking his actions and his religious beliefs

no but i have about the actually subject of the thread.

[Straw Man]

no but i have about the actually subject of the thread.

try reading more than the title next time

[tonymctones]

try reading more than the title next time

I did, I actually read the title and posted quotes from the article that would be relevant to that title....

[Straw Man]

I did, I actually read the title and posted quotes from the article that would be relevant to that title....

is this your response to Kasich's claim in the title of the thread that there seems to be a war on the poor with Republican in Washington?

you didn't mention "war" or "republicans" or even "in Washington"

you also didn't comment on anything in the actual article regarding Kasich's actions in his state regarding ACA or the reaction by his party (the section I bolded) in the article

great job as usual

yup the fact that the majority of welface recipients are single mothers who have never been married with more than one kid, under 30 and have at most a high school diploma if they even have that is a sure sign of a responsible, good decision making, hard working individual.....

[RRKore]

yup the fact that the majority of welface recipients are single mothers who have never been married with more than one kid, under 30 and have at most a high school diploma if they even have that is a sure sign of a responsible, good decision making, hard working individual.....

This not very relevant to the story posted, is it?  The "Poor people" Kasich is talking about are the ones who are affected by his state's legislature (voting against their own economic interests by) turning down federal money to expand medicare to cover those who now make too much to be covered by medicare and not enough to get subsidies for ACA. 

This is the so-called "working poor" and not non-working, young uneducated single moms that you like to shit on.  Makes me think you might have some kind of deep-seated mommy issues.  (Or not -- Maybe I've just been playing GTA 5 as Trevor a little too much...)

[The Showstoppa]

"Access to contraception?"   Lol.  Are you f'n kidding?   Condoms are dirt cheap and everywhere.  Free at the health department. 

Implant should be mandatory after one kid and if they want goverment assistance.  As a taxpayer, I would gladly chip in on that.  Save a ton in the long run.

[24KT]

yup the fact that the majority of welface recipients are single mothers who have never been married with more than one kid, under 30 and have at most a high school diploma if they even have that is a sure sign of a responsible, good decision making, hard working individual.....

Because everyone knows these women decided to get pregnant on their own via immaculate conception right? 

[Archer77]

Because everyone knows these women decided to get pregnant on their own via immaculate conception right? 

It's fairly obvious to anyone with a brain that getting pregnant by a dead beat and giving birth to a child you can't support isn't a smart move.

[tonymctones]

Because everyone knows these women decided to get pregnant on their own via immaculate conception right? 

oh I agree the father is just as big a piece of shit as the mother, dont get me wrong the stupidity in that situation is not limited strictly to the mother.

However as having the child is her "choice", do you not think its her that should get the brunt of the criticism?

I mean you guys have fought so long and hard for her right to choose but when she chooses its automatically an even split?

seems a little hypocritical of you there jagson