Name the country

[Wolfox]

I sympathize with the native's plight but not to the point of a self-flagellating liberal. Atrocities were committed, lets not assuage that fact, but lets not let our past hold us back.

[Wolfox]

Every race has been a slave at some point in history, seems weird that only one certain race holds onto that type of past.

So because other people do something wrong that makes it ok? That is how a child justifies their wrongdoings.

We're adults.

[Wolfox]

Thats like a black dude raping a white women then giving the excuse that black women have been raped by their white slave masters.

Thats not an excuse.

[chaos]

So because other people do something wrong that makes it ok? That is how a child justifies their wrongdoings.

We're adults.

Who did you enslave? Who have you killed and taken their land? I'm sure "Tongans" have lived a peaceful existance and never harmed another soul.

[Wolfox]

Who did you enslave? Who have you killed and taken their land? I'm sure "Tongans" have lived a peaceful existance and never harmed another soul.

Currently, I have not yet enslaved anyone. But I am benefiting from some major transgressions that took place on this here land of the US. Do I personally feel guilty about it? No. But I feel as a citizen of this country I do inherit some responsibility for our forefathers actions.

[Shockwave]

Currently, I have not yet enslaved anyone. But I am benefiting from some major transgressions that took place in this here land. Do I personally feel guilty about it? No. But I feel as a citizen of this country I do inherit some responsibility for our forefathers actions.

No you don't. You're just another human trying to make a living in this great country. You don't owe anybody shit for any past transgressions that had nothing to do with you.

It's a bullshit idea created to give one race a skapegoat for poor performance and to make others feel bad for shit they had no part in.

[chaos]

I do inherit some responsibility for our forefathers actions.

Why?
Maybe we should call the queen or France and hand ourselves back over to them? You could always pack your shit and go back to whichever island your raft floated off, nobody is forcing you to stay here and feel guilty, maybe you'd feel better at "home"?

[Wolfox]

No you don't. You're just another human trying to make a living in this great country. You don't owe anybody shit for any past transgressions that had nothing to do with you.

It's a bullshit idea created to give one race a skapegoat for poor performance and to make others feel bad for shit they had no part in.

I just view things differently. I believe in the victory of war. But a lot of these tribes made treaties and we continually violated them and fucked them over.

[chaos]

I just view things differently. I believe in the victory of war. But a lot of these tribes made treaties and we continually violated them and fucked them over.

"We"?

[BikiniSlut]

Thats like a black dude raping a white women then giving the excuse that black women have been raped by their white slave masters.

Thats not an excuse.

Exactly. There are no excuses.

Canada is the only country that to this day compensates the current generation of the native people for the wrongdoings to their ancestors. And believe me.....they take full advantage of it.

[Shockwave]

I just view things differently. I believe in the victory of war. But a lot of these tribes made treaties and we continually violated them and fucked them over.

Still none of your responsibility.
Every country is built on blood, or has shed blood, or has comitted unspeakable atrocities.
No  one holds any citizen responsible for the shit of the past besides the US, and it seems like it's mostly geared to try and sooth butthurtedness.

You haven't done anything wrong, you shouldn't feel bad about shit.

[chaos]

Exactly. There are no excuses.

Canada is the only country that to this day compensates the current generation of the native people for the wrongdoings to their ancestors. And believe me.....they take full advantage of it.

So you're bragging that your taxes are being used to support a generation of people that had nothing done to them personally and are being taught that they "deserve" special treatment from another group of people that also had no involvement in what happened?

LOL

[The Ugly]

Exactly. There are no excuses.

Canada is the only country that to this day compensates the current generation of the native people for the wrongdoings to their ancestors. And believe me.....they take full advantage of it.

Ah, I don't buy into reparations. Just guilt prizes that don't do anyone any good. Creates dependence is all.

[Shockwave]

So you're bragging that your taxes are being used to support a generation of people that had nothing done to them personally and are being taught that they "deserve" special treatment from another group of people that also had no involvement in what happened?

LOL

Agreed.
Equality is not giving someone a handout because you feel bad for what happened generations ago..

If anything, it's almost racist and a slap in the face... "sorry you can't make it on your own, heres some money because we feel bad about what happened to you decades ago, hope you don't hold a grudge".

You're basically telling them that they need your help to succeed, that they can't do it on their own.

[Wolfox]

"We"?

We the USA.

[chaos]

We the USA.

Geezus dude, are you a vampire or something? Nobody alive today had anything to do with what happened generations ago.

[OTHstrong]

So you're bragging that your taxes are being used to support a generation of people that had nothing done to them personally and are being taught that they "deserve" special treatment from another group of people that also had no involvement in what happened?

LOL

excellent point^^^

[chaos]

excellent point^^^

Look, you do that with one generation right? They will teach their kids the same shit...now you've basically fucked up a race of people and taught them to be dependant on the government because of shit that happened generations ago? Like I said, every race at some point in time has been enslaved, we should all get reparations!!

[BikiniSlut]

So you're bragging that your taxes are being used to support a generation of people that had nothing done to them personally and are being taught that they "deserve" special treatment from another group of people that also had no involvement in what happened?

LOL

Reread my statement......it's the exact opposite. I absolutely hate it and believe they deserve NOTHING.

They get their full education paid for.....from housing to tuition to an actual spending allowance. Discounts on tobacco, hunting privileges, and the list goes on.

What is worse is that every political candidate "claims" they are in agreement with this, just to garner votes.

[chaos]

Reread my statement......it's the exact opposite. I absolutely hate it and believe they deserve NOTHING.

They get their full education paid for.....from housing to tuition to an actual spending allowance. Discounts on tobacco, hunting privileges, and the list goes on.

What is worse is that every political candidate "claims" they are in agreement with this, just to garner votes.

I was misled, I would apologize, but apologies are for pussys.

[Wolfox]

Geezus dude, are you a vampire or something? Nobody alive today had anything to do with what happened generations ago.

History is living and breathing. I read the works of Thomas Jefferson and I feel just as much a part of this country's inception as any of our founding fathers.

I feel a part of every war, victory and atrocity of this here God's land.

[Wolfox]

Geezus dude, are you a vampire or something? Nobody alive today had anything to do with what happened generations ago.

But we can still today see the effects of our colonization on the natives. Ever been to a reservation outside of a casino? No running water or plumbing. Only firewater.

[chaos]

But we can still today see the effects of our colonization on the natives. Ever been to a reservation outside of a casino? No running water or plumbing. Only firewater.

They have a choice to stay on the reservation or leave don't they? I mean, my ancestors stop wearing animal skins and horns on their heads a long time ago. It's called progression.

[Wolfox]

Dude, WE landed on the moon. WE drafted the greatest idea of freedom in The Constitution. WE did many great things. WE also did many bad things.

Thats how I view it. If you don't thats ok too.

[chaos]

Dude, WE landed on the moon. WE drafted the greatest idea of freedom in The Constitution. WE did many great things. WE also did many bad things.

And then?