Should I be offended?

[SamoanIrishman]

So the VA in my region is crap the really don't listen to you and want to just throw drugs at everything. For example when I first returned from deployment I had to see a therapist and anti-depressants and anti-anxiety pills. Well I also had about 10 other meds being thrown at me for pain, headaches, sleep etc.

Well I get really good bene's from my new employer so I've started seeing a local doctor. One of the things I liked about him is that he is a lifter and to be honest looks like he's done his share of AAS. Well, he asked about my past surgeries and asked about my mental health. I told him that I took anti depressants and have anti anxiety pills on hand and take them "as needed" ( I have this closed space with large crowds thing). I also told him I was cleared of having any PTSD.

I went in the other day to get a Rx filled and he went to get his Rx pad he forgot and left my chart open. He wrote down possible PTSD and underlined it twice with exclamation points.

Should I feel like he is judging me or diagnosing me though he isn't qualified to do so? Should I ask him why he wrote that I have PTSD?

Im a little offended for some reason. Am I wrong to be offended?

[arce1988]

  Semper Fidelis

[headhuntersix]

Based this and the current political climate, if you don't want that shit recorded anywhere, I'd be pissed. I've got 4 tours..I don't sleep well, and angry most of the time but besides ambien I don't take anything. If you ever need anything PM me...I might know a guy who knows a guy.

[SamoanIrishman]

Thanks bud but honestly psychologically I'm good. I have dreams that scare the living shit out of my wife when I jump out of bed but those are rare. I don't even remember much of the explosion to be honest especially since I was unconscious pretty much until the EOD and Stryker's got there to get us medvac'd. I remember waking up here and there but couldn't hear shit but a loud tone as both my eardrums were ruptured.

I just get nervous at malls or any packed places where exits are few, unseen or there isn't much cover. - movies, restaurants and church included. I just pop an alprazolam and call it good    ..oh and I always feel the need to face the door when at restaurants and shit.

I miss my unit but I have no guilt issues or crippling sadness for what I had to do there or my lost brothers. I am proud to have known them and view them as true hero's who I'll always be grateful for and never forget.

 All in all, I am glad to have made it out alive and live everyday feeling blessed every time I wake up and see my beautiful wife next to me and walk into my messy, loud, chaotic house full of kids

btw - try Lunesta 3mg..way better than ambien. Don't get as many nightmares or groggy feeling the next day

[Parker]

Thanks bud but honestly psychologically I'm good. I have dreams that scare the living shit out of my wife when I jump out of bed but those are rare. I don't even remember much of the explosion to be honest especially since I was unconscious pretty much until the EOD and Stryker's got there to get us medvac'd. I remember waking up here and there but couldn't hear shit but a loud tone as both my eardrums were ruptured.

I just get nervous at malls or any packed places where exits are few, unseen or there isn't much cover. - movies, restaurants and church included. I just pop an alprazolam and call it good    ..oh and I always feel the need to face the door when at restaurants and shit.

I miss my unit but I have no guilt issues or crippling sadness for what I had to do there or my lost brothers. I am proud to have known them and view them as true hero's who I'll always be grateful for and never forget.

 All in all, I am glad to have made it out alive and live everyday feeling blessed every time I wake up and see my beautiful wife next to me and walk into my messy, loud, chaotic house full of kids

btw - try Lunesta 3mg..way better than ambien. Don't get as many nightmares or groggy feeling the next day

Reread that first paragraph again...real slow.

Let it marinate. And you should be offended if your doctor didn't question if you were.
He has to cover ALL angles. Just like you did when when you were deployed.

[Tedim]

I'm very fortunate both my deployments were contact free.....back then I was pissed, no very much relieved. 

[Thespritz0]

Thanks bud but honestly psychologically I'm good. I have dreams that scare the living shit out of my wife when I jump out of bed but those are rare. I don't even remember much of the explosion to be honest especially since I was unconscious pretty much until the EOD and Stryker's got there to get us medvac'd. I remember waking up here and there but couldn't hear shit but a loud tone as both my eardrums were ruptured.

I just get nervous at malls or any packed places where exits are few, unseen or there isn't much cover. - movies, restaurants and church included. I just pop an alprazolam and call it good    ..oh and I always feel the need to face the door when at restaurants and shit.

I miss my unit but I have no guilt issues or crippling sadness for what I had to do there or my lost brothers. I am proud to have known them and view them as true hero's who I'll always be grateful for and never forget.

 All in all, I am glad to have made it out alive and live everyday feeling blessed every time I wake up and see my beautiful wife next to me and walk into my messy, loud, chaotic house full of kids

btw - try Lunesta 3mg..way better than ambien. Don't get as many nightmares or groggy feeling the next day

^^
I suffered from PTSD horribly- although I thought I was completely fine for about 10 months after getting back from former Yugoslavia, PM me if you want to chat...

(A former Airborne Sergeant in the 1990's)

[Wolfox]

Thank you for your service uce.

As for the topic, I dunno...hes probably just being a doc. I mean the possibility of you having ptsd is statistically high. The thing that worries me is I live in Cali where they can take my guns if they feel I'm mentally unfit. I like my guns. I wouldn't want ptsd attached to my medical records.

[SamoanIrishman]

Reread that first paragraph again...real slow.

Let it marinate. And you should be offended if your doctor didn't question if you were.
He has to cover ALL angles. Just like you did when when you were deployed.

I was cleared my a military psychiatrist. He is only a general practice. My dreams may make me jump but I don't wake up sweating or keep a knife under my pillow and shit. Not like you see in the movies. I had 2 concussions before deployment playing rugby so its not like physical injuries automatically dictate I have mental health issues.

Sure there is evidence to suggest that REPEATED head injuries over time MAY lead to mental health issues but again, I was cleared after 3 months of intense sessions. I think he just refuses to believe that not every soldier that comes back has issues.

if anything maybe I'm sociopathic since I'm pretty cold to the fact of what I had to do as part of my duty. I don't feel shit but recoil when killing one of those mother fuckers shooting at me and my brothers.  

[SamoanIrishman]

btw I'm fucking STOKED to see so many service members here on GetBig..I truly had NO clue there were so many. Love this community.

[Wolfox]

Its precautionary liability stuff. He probably underlines it twice for all vets.

[Parker]

I was cleared my a military psychiatrist. He is only a general practice. My dreams may make me jump but I don't wake up sweating or keep a knife under my pillow and shit. Not like you see in the movies. I had 2 concussions before deployment playing rugby so its not like physical injuries automatically dictate I have mental health issues.

Sure there is evidence to suggest that REPEATED head injuries over time MAY lead to mental health issues but again, I was cleared after 3 months of intense sessions. I think he just refuses to believe that not every soldier that comes back has issues.

if anything maybe I'm sociopathic since I'm pretty cold to the fact of what I had to do as part of my duty. I don't feel shit but recoil when killing one of those mother fuckers shooting at me and my brothers.  

Didn't a military psychiatrist go on a shooting?

I have a friend who is a Marine, and back when he came home in the 90s, he said that he was looking at ways to escape in malls, looking at the trees, and how he could climb the escalators. I think that is just natural.

Things are not always what they they seem. You could be telling us one thing, but if we were face to face, we may see something else.

Every heard of a man being called the "nicest guy" and come to find out he's beating the ish out his woman, but then people started realizing that they all saw cues..similar. Your doctor may have seen signs in just talking to you, subtle cues. So don't feel offended, feel thankful that he is concerned. Would you want a doc that was like "naaaah, you are ok...", when there might be a little bit of concern?

I do hope that everything is ok for you.

[Parker]

Its precautionary liability stuff. He probably underlines it twice for all vets.

Plausible...

[Thespritz0]

Didn't a military psychiatrist go on a shooting?

I have a friend who is a Marine, and back when he came home in the 90s, he said that he was looking at ways to escape in malls, looking at the trees, and how he could climb the escalators. I think that is just natural.

Things are not always what they they seem. You could be telling us one thing, but if we were face to face, we may see something else.

Every heard of a man being called the "nicest guy" and come to find out he's beating the ish out his woman, but then people started realizing that they all saw cues..similar. Your doctor may have seen signs in just talking to you, subtle cues. So don't feel offended, feel thankful that he is concerned. Would you want a doc that was like "naaaah, you are ok...", when there might be a little bit of concern?

I do hope that everything is ok for you.

^^
It's not only that dude, you also look at which exit doors open (and to where), you never take elevators in case someone cuts the power, you ALWAYS use the stairs, when eating you always are watching with your back against the wall...
VERY hard to give up habits, and a lot of energy used trying to look charming and innocent doing it!!!

[Parker]

^^
It's not only that dude, you also look at which exit doors open (and to where), you never take elevators in case someone cuts the power, you ALWAYS use the stairs, when eating you always are watching with your back against the wall...
VERY hard to give up habits, and a lot of energy used trying to look charming and innocent doing it!!!

He said the exact same thing! Situational Awareness can be a bitch...he taught me  a lot of that.
And using the glass from buildings as mirrors.

[SamoanIrishman]

Thanks for chiming in guys, I see your point and I won't take it personally. I visit the VA and PTSD groups to volunteer as most of you know, talking to a shrink is one thing but sometime you feel the only ones that understand are the ones who've been there.

I won't take it personal and I'll let my doc slide. My dad was in Vietnam and had some issues back in the day so he is always on the lookout for "red flags" when it comes to us. (my brother and sister also serve and have been deployed at least once each). Thankfully they are ok and will not be returning.

My wife says she's never seen me so happy. Says I help out more, spend more time with the kids, more patient with them and more affectionate with her so I must not be doing that bad. Like I said before, the experience has truly made me a better man and I truly appreciate life, love, family and God much more these days.

couple things bother me to be honest but they are out of my control.

I can't be with my brothers.
I don't have 100% mobility to fully go hard on cardio like I want so I feel like a fucking lazy fat ass some days. Lifting cheers me up, but I need to shed some BF% I don't like being in the 20's

[headhuntersix]

I've seen the bad after effects of TBI. That's the one thing that you can't discount, especially if it was before they took baseline scans. They started that shit a few years ago and I guess it helps. I was lucky, the worse shit that was ever thrown my way was while I was in a tank so a few dull thuds and that was it. Keep training, it helps more then anything.

[Disgusted]

Everything in your chart you have a right to see. I would ask him why he wrote it down and BE NICE!!!!!! Don't be dick and give him a reason to prove him right. Ask him in a very polite way if he is qualified to give that type of diagnosis while mentioning that a Dr who specializes in that field cleared you.

[SamoanIrishman]

Hey Johnny stop being a dick. You don't know me so if you don't like it shut the fuck up and move on. I don't regret sending any of those camel fucking assholes to their grave.

If you can't stand behind the troops feel free to stand in front of us asshole.

[headhuntersix]

He's an idiot....I'd say don't take the bait but its some much fun. I for one don't regret a thing other then the massive amount of time I wasted before Obama decided we were done. I was actually proud of my time in Iraq...Afghanistan on the other hand was a colossal waste of time.   

[WOOO]

So the VA in my region is crap the really don't listen to you and want to just throw drugs at everything. For example when I first returned from deployment I had to see a therapist and anti-depressants and anti-anxiety pills. Well I also had about 10 other meds being thrown at me for pain, headaches, sleep etc.

Well I get really good bene's from my new employer so I've started seeing a local doctor. One of the things I liked about him is that he is a lifter and to be honest looks like he's done his share of AAS. Well, he asked about my past surgeries and asked about my mental health. I told him that I took anti depressants and have anti anxiety pills on hand and take them "as needed" ( I have this closed space with large crowds thing). I also told him I was cleared of having any PTSD.

I went in the other day to get a Rx filled and he went to get his Rx pad he forgot and left my chart open. He wrote down possible PTSD and underlined it twice with exclamation points.

Should I feel like he is judging me or diagnosing me though he isn't qualified to do so? Should I ask him why he wrote that I have PTSD?

Im a little offended for some reason. Am I wrong to be offended?

ditch the dope, find a job that you love, live life

[Dago_Joe]

Based this and the current political climate, if you don't want that shit recorded anywhere, I'd be pissed. I've got 4 tours..I don't sleep well, and angry most of the time but besides ambien I don't take anything. If you ever need anything PM me...I might know a guy who knows a guy.

I salute and respect you veterans more than words can say.  Libfags will spit on you and call you baby killers, but you are all true patriots and men in the truest sense. 

[BodyMachine]

thank you for your service! but you ever wonder that perhaps the military psychologists try not to diagnose cases mild ptsd due to the cost involved in treatment for all service members. I don't know, you may not have it, you may a mild case (that was intentionally let go or not). Either way, best wishes to feeling your best

[Primemuscle]

Thanks bud but honestly psychologically I'm good. I have dreams that scare the living shit out of my wife when I jump out of bed but those are rare. I don't even remember much of the explosion to be honest especially since I was unconscious pretty much until the EOD and Stryker's got there to get us medvac'd. I remember waking up here and there but couldn't hear shit but a loud tone as both my eardrums were ruptured.

I just get nervous at malls or any packed places where exits are few, unseen or there isn't much cover. - movies, restaurants and church included. I just pop an alprazolam and call it good    ..oh and I always feel the need to face the door when at restaurants and shit.

I miss my unit but I have no guilt issues or crippling sadness for what I had to do there or my lost brothers. I am proud to have known them and view them as true hero's who I'll always be grateful for and never forget.

 All in all, I am glad to have made it out alive and live everyday feeling blessed every time I wake up and see my beautiful wife next to me and walk into my messy, loud, chaotic house full of kids

btw - try Lunesta 3mg..way better than ambien. Don't get as many nightmares or groggy feeling the next day

I've had a phobia about being in crowed places all my life. I don't have PTSD. If your doctor believes the only cause of anxiety and/or agoraphobia is PTSD, then he isn't very knowledgeable.

[benchmstr]

i had problems with crowded places after my first 2 deployments..but that stopped..all in time brother

my dad was a career frogman though so i had a good person to talk to....this shit isnt suppossed to be bottled up like other problems

bench