martinez is so overated its not even funny. got such a gift at the O this past year.
he hasnt shown up in good condition since his 2003 NOC win. a show in which no one else competed in.
people say that jay or gunter is overtated, but vic is even worse. at least jay and gustavo have never been arrested for selling xctasy out of the gym you own, in which you ripped many people off w/ their memberships.
vic is def. top 10 material, but he is too small and not conditioned enough to do any damage. plus, just bc he is "aesthetic Looking", no one seems to mention the oil in his bi's. but ruhl is constantly ridiculed for that bc he isnt aesthetic.
gunter should be the next Mr. O.