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The Michael Jordan of baseball
« on: November 07, 2013, 12:53:58 PM »
Was he clean? I say fuck no, baseball  needs a natural  golden child ;D

but  he's still my favorite player.


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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2013, 12:55:40 PM »
Wasn't Michael Jordan, for at least a couple of games, the Michael Jordan of baseball?


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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2013, 01:02:04 PM »
Wasn't Michael Jordan, for at least a couple of games, the Michael Jordan of baseball?



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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2013, 01:03:35 PM »
Was he clean? I say fuck no, baseball  needs a natural  golden child ;D

They have one - Mike Trout
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2013, 01:07:15 PM »
They have one - Mike Trout

Ummm no dude. Mike is young and a great player...has great power but you need to realize ken Griffey was also at one time the fastest player in the game. He was the closest thing to bo Jackson,,,talent wise.
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2013, 01:12:08 PM »
Ummm no dude. Mike is young and a great player...has great power but you need to realize ken Griffey was also at one time the fastest player in the game. He was the closest thing to bo Jackson,,,talent wise.

Ummmm - Tout stole 49 bases his rookie year, and has almost stolen half as many bases in 2 years than Griffey did in 22....
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2013, 01:13:43 PM »
Ummm no dude. Mike is young and a great player...has great power but you need to realize ken Griffey was also at one time the fastest player in the game. He was the closest thing to bo Jackson,,,talent wise.

Injury prone though

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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2013, 01:20:50 PM »
Ummm no dude. Mike is young and a great player...has great power but you need to realize ken Griffey was also at one time the fastest player in the game. He was the closest thing to bo Jackson,,,talent wise.

Bo Jackson was a good (not a great) baseball player ... Ken Griffey was a great (though a tad overrated) baseball player ... Mike Trout has had a ridiculous first two years of MLB.

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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2013, 01:22:33 PM »
Ummmm - Tout stole 49 bases his rookie year, and has almost stolen half as many bases in 2 years than Griffey did in 22....

All  Im going to tell you is this...I know alot of  guys who played baseball at the highest level and.they all will tell you the same thing, griffey was the man.
Mike had two great years.not taking anything away from him but ..lets see him do it for 10 years. You guys all saw what happened to puljos
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2013, 01:25:00 PM »
Ummmm - Tout stole 49 bases his rookie year, and has almost stolen half as many bases in 2 years than Griffey did in 22....

Mike Trout couldn't hold Ken Griffey's jock strap. Please, Miguel C eats his lunch and dinner. Only player better then Griffey was "Mr. Clean" Barry Bonds ;)

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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2013, 01:54:11 PM »
Mike Trout couldn't hold Ken Griffey's jock strap. Please, Miguel C eats his lunch and dinner. Only player better then Griffey was "Mr. Clean" Barry Bonds ;)

QFT.  the guy's swing was just a thing of an art. Almost effortless. 
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2013, 02:01:25 PM »
Mike Trout couldn't hold Ken Griffey's jock strap. Please, Miguel C eats his lunch and dinner. Only player better then Griffey was "Mr. Clean" Barry Bonds ;)

Trout is better than Miguel Cabrerra since, in addition to being an elite hitter, also plays elite defense at a premium position, and is one of the best baserunners in the game.  Cabrerra, despite being one of the best hitters in the game, is a butcher in the field and can't run.
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2013, 02:01:56 PM »
will clark was a legend
rickey henderson was a true neegul
wade boggs and don mattingly were fags
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2013, 02:02:12 PM »
Was he clean? I say fuck no, baseball  needs a natural  golden child ;D

but  he's still my favorite player.


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griffey was on the fast track to the all time home run record too bad injury and age caught up to him. he may have been clean as he got older he got worse just as jim bunning said it should be. guys lose it quick once it starts to go. rumours of griffey sleeping in the batting cage during the last few games in the bigs were said.
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2013, 02:03:01 PM »
All  Im going to tell you is this...I know alot of  guys who played baseball at the highest level and.they all will tell you the same thing, griffey was the man.
Mike had two great years.not taking anything away from him but ..lets see him do it for 10 years. You guys all saw what happened to puljos

This changing the argument.  First you said he wasn't fast, but he's one of the fastest.  Now you're talking about longevity.   We'll have to see on that one, absolutely.

Trouts rookie season was one of the best season ever in MLB history, rookie or not.  His second year was fantastic as well.  He's off to a great start.

This takes nothing away from KGJ. He was friggin' awesome, and had one of the best swings EVER.
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2013, 02:14:15 PM »
lets not forget DARRYL STRAWBERRY the neegar had the best golf club swing
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2013, 02:17:13 PM »
lets not forget DARRYL STRAWBERRY the neegar had the best golf club swing

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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2013, 02:19:25 PM »
He could play any sport top level and did not even lift.

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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2013, 02:25:13 PM »
This changing the argument.  First you said he wasn't fast, but he's one of the fastest.  Now you're talking about longevity.   We'll have to see on that one, absolutely.

Trouts rookie season was one of the best season ever in MLB history, rookie or not.  His second year was fantastic as well.  He's off to a great start.

This takes nothing away from KGJ. He was friggin' awesome, and had one of the best swings EVER.

Well Im not taking anything away from mike, he does alot more with what he was given than Griffey.

I know someone who would time ken Griffey in the 90's when he was really young...he would run the 60 in 6.1 -6.2.... For a 6'3 guy That's nuts dude...world class speed brother.  Mike is running a 6.6...still very good for a guy his size. I think the fastest guy in the MLB in the past 10 years was Ichiro and carl Crawford. they would run a 5.9 on occasion..

 Griffey was also lazy....and would  go around the club house preaching how he didn't believe in weight training  even after everyone in the 90's was doing it once they saw what it did to Conseco.
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2013, 02:39:14 PM »
Well Im not taking anything away from mike, he does alot more with what he was given than Griffey.

I know someone who would time ken Griffey in the 90's when he was really young...he would run the 60 in 6.1 -6.2.... For a 6'3 guy That's nuts dude...world class speed brother.  Mike is running a 6.6...still very good for a guy his size. I think the fastest guy in the MLB in the past 10 years was Ichiro and carl Crawford. they would run a 5.9 on occasion..

 Griffey was also lazy....and would  go around the club house preaching how he didn't believe in weight training  even after everyone in the 90's was doing it once they saw what it did to Conseco.

Not taking anything away from Griffey.   But what Trout is doing is historical, and if he continues, he'll be one of the best ever.  Tot your point though, that is not easy to do.
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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2013, 03:01:52 PM »
Bo Jackson was a good (not a great) baseball player ... Ken Griffey was a great (though a tad overrated) baseball player ... Mike Trout has had a ridiculous first two years of MLB.

If Bo Jackson only played baseball at an early age and stayed with it, he would have been one of the best ever...Jackson was still kind of raw at baseball. If he didn't go play football and concentrated on baseball alone, the upside of Jackson was through the roof...He may have been the fastest player to ever play. Just brutally fast...

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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2013, 04:12:33 PM »
Was he clean? I say fuck no, baseball  needs a natural  golden child ;D

but  he's still my favorite player.


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I wrote a story on this.  During the start of the "steroid era" McGwire and Sosa were on fire, first 60, then 70 HR.  During that span one guy also had stats that kept pace with them and that was KGJ.  During an era where pitchers were juiced to the gills, the only players that had big years were also the juicers.  If KGJ was clean then the fact that he was able to keep pace with McGwire, Sosa et al would mean he was the greatest hitter in history.  That he was able to hit the ball against all of the juicers and still get a shitload of homers clean.  But the fact is that his stats rose and fell in perfect sequence with those that were caught juicing and that can lead you to believe one thing.

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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2013, 04:13:30 PM »
Looks clean.

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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2013, 04:38:27 PM »
 From a pure technique stand point ken griffey junior was one of the best i say he was clean at least the bulk of his career he had the Ted Williams barber sign swing going on. His swing was nearly perfect don't have to be that strong really he was rumored to only bench 250

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Re: The Michael Jordan of baseball
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2013, 04:39:16 PM »
If Bo Jackson only played baseball at an early age and stayed with it, he would have been one of the best ever...Jackson was still kind of raw at baseball. If he didn't go play football and concentrated on baseball alone, the upside of Jackson was through the roof...He may have been the fastest player to ever play. Just brutally fast...

Deion was way faster.  He could scoot.