what about 'pseudoephedrine'?

[Meso_z]

Hello fellas,
Im in a 'transitional' phase in my life right now... On and off the boards for quite a long time. I still check the boards from time to time though.
Back to my question now. Does pseudoephedrine hcl acts like ephedrine? Weaker?

[_aj_]

It has its uses, but it won't do shit in a ECA stack.

[ProudVirgin69]

It won't burn fat or amp you up like ephedrine.  I've heard people take it before a workout to breath deeper/easier, but little usefulness beyond that

[Mr Nobody]

Steroids will kill you.

[WOOO]

pseudo is good in athletic contests but useless otherwise... definitely improves respiration

[Mr Anabolic]

It won't burn fat or amp you up like ephedrine.  I've heard people take it before a workout to breath deeper/easier, but little usefulness beyond that

Ephedrine burns fat, huh?  1990's urban legends die hard.  Training combined with cardio and proper diet is what burns fat, not ephedrine. 

If it's not abused, E is a great stimulant... it gets you amped for cardio sessions, it increases mental focus, it can increase your lifts by 5-10%, but it does not "burn" fat. 

E is also very nasty shit if you abuse it.  I know many people who have been down that road... high BP, anxiety, psychosis, muscle cramps/tears, neuropathy, joint pain, impotence, adrenal burn out, dependence, etc...

[WOOO]

Ephedrine burns fat, huh?  1990's urban legends die hard.  Training combined with cardio and proper diet is what burns fat, not ephedrine. 

If it's not abused, E is a great stimulant... it gets you amped for cardio sessions, it increases mental focus, it can increase your lifts by 5-10%, but it does not "burn" fat. 

E is also very nasty shit if you abuse it.  I know many people who have been down that road... high BP, anxiety, psychosis, muscle cramps/tears, neuropathy, joint pain, impotence, adrenal burn out, dependence, etc...

totally agree... stimulants do not burn anything... they just make dieting/cardio easier

if you wanna get lean, stop fucking eating and get on a treadmill

end of rant

[OTHstrong]

Hello fellas,
Im in a 'transitional' phase in my life right now... On and off the boards for quite a long time. I still check the boards from time to time though.
Back to my question now. Does pseudoephedrine hcl acts like ephedrine? Weaker?

no no no, complete fake, waste of time, junk junk junk, not even remotely close to ephedrine

[OTHstrong]

Ephedrine burns fat, huh?  1990's urban legends die hard.  Training combined with cardio and proper diet is what burns fat, not ephedrine.  

If it's not abused, E is a great stimulant... it gets you amped for cardio sessions, it increases mental focus, it can increase your lifts by 5-10%, but it does not "burn" fat.  

E is also very nasty shit if you abuse it.  I know many people who have been down that road... high BP, anxiety, psychosis, muscle cramps/tears, neuropathy, joint pain, impotence, adrenal burn out, dependence, etc...

this is simply HS, if I ate 2500 calories and did the exact same thing daily and my weight did not change at all over the course of a month, then repeated the same thing with the difference being taking ephedrine 3 times a day, sorry but I would lose at least 5lb of fat in that month, ephedrine raises temperature and cause the body to burn more calories at rest then without, FACT.

[ProudVirgin69]

this is simply HS, if I ate 2500 calories and did the exact same thing daily and my weight did not change at all over the course of a month, then repeated the same thing with the difference being taking ephedrine 3 times a day, sorry but I would lose at least 5lb of fat in that month, ephedrine raises temperature and cause the body to burn more calories at rest then without, FACT.

 

OTH laying it down. I'm not saying ephedrine is a substitute for diet & exercise, but saying it doesn't accelerate fat loss isnt correct either

[Hulkotron]

Getting "amped" to walk on a treadmill at 2.5 mph oh brother.

[jon cole]

Hello fellas,
Im in a 'transitional' phase in my life right now... On and off the boards for quite a long time. I still check the boards from time to time though.
Back to my question now. Does pseudoephedrine hcl acts like ephedrine? Weaker?

pseudo alone for me = nothing.
pseudo+cafeine = kick ass.

[NotMrAverage]

this one sucks really bad... get pure ephedrine or even ephedra... i think the pure stuff is easier to get these days

[f450]

Ephedrine burns fat, huh?  1990's urban legends die hard.  Training combined with cardio and proper diet is what burns fat, not ephedrine. 

If it's not abused, E is a great stimulant... it gets you amped for cardio sessions, it increases mental focus, it can increase your lifts by 5-10%, but it does not "burn" fat. 

E is also very nasty shit if you abuse it.  I know many people who have been down that road... high BP, anxiety, psychosis, muscle cramps/tears, neuropathy, joint pain, impotence, adrenal burn out, dependence, etc...

you failed every science course you took.. or you're trolling .. I cant tell.

[local hero]

will pass it off as trolling, whilest nervously laughing and hoping no one realises...

[Mr Anabolic]

this is simply HS, if I ate 2500 calories and did the exact same thing daily and my weight did not change at all over the course of a month, then repeated the same thing with the difference being taking ephedrine 3 times a day, sorry but I would lose at least 5lb of fat in that month, ephedrine raises temperature and cause the body to burn more calories at rest then without, FACT.

Prime example of "bro science" here perpetuated by 90's bodybuilding mags.

You're most likely taking a poly-pharmacy of different drugs.  You have no way of telling what drug is doing what.

E raises body temperature?... that is totally bogus.  I've taken my temperature after taking it... no difference.

[Mr Anabolic]

you failed every science course you took.. or you're trolling .. I cant tell.

Oh yeah... I been trolling this place since 2004

 

[OTHstrong]

Prime example of "bro science" here perpetuated by 90's bodybuilding mags.

You're most likely taking a poly-pharmacy of different drugs.  You have no way of telling what drug is doing what.

E raises body temperature?... that is totally bogus.  I've taken my temperature after taking it... no difference.

lmao lolollool, not temperature, the type you measure with a thermometer under your tongue Einstein, lmao you are fucken hilarious, we are talking what makes your blood warm, your thermo heat, you know like when you get a pump you feel warm, hence you burn more calories, well same thing with ephedrine, you ding dong, lol

[Natural Man]

pseudo alone for me = nothing.
pseudo+cafeine = kick ass.

well what kicks ass is probably only the caffeine lol...

[whitewidow]

It works well if you are a boxer even before a training session it will help you breath way better just watch your heart rate and try to not take more then a 30mg dose prior to training or fighting.

[stavios]

this is simply HS, if I ate 2500 calories and did the exact same thing daily and my weight did not change at all over the course of a month, then repeated the same thing with the difference being taking ephedrine 3 times a day, sorry but I would lose at least 5lb of fat in that month, ephedrine raises temperature and cause the body to burn more calories at rest then without, FACT.

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btw, so Mezo long time no see 

[Mr Nobody]

It's not that complicated just eat some drop some speed.

[Natural Man]

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btw, so Mezo long time no see 

wow long time no see, how s life at present? Still in quebec?

[The Showstoppa]

It's not that complicated just eat some drop some speed.

Wake looked like a pseudo-football team today. 

[Mr Nobody]

Wake looked like a pseudo-football team today. 

They need to stay with golf.