Author Topic: Does deca really improve immune function? (Read 6401 times)

theworm · « **on:** November 10, 2013, 04:06:03 PM »

Keep hearing how deca improves the immune system, also by increasing cd8 cells etc, but has anyone ever experienced this? Ie not ever getting sick while running deca?

Big Chiro Flex · « **Reply #1 on:** November 10, 2013, 04:08:01 PM »

Quote from: theworm on November 10, 2013, 04:06:03 PM

Keep hearing how deca improves the immune system, also by increasing cd8 cells etc, but has anyone ever experienced this? Ie not ever getting sick while running deca?

My recovery is through the roof when I cruise with deca and blast with sweet potatoes.

Seriously though it's awesome.

ProudVirgin69 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 10, 2013, 04:14:59 PM »

I got the worst flu of my life on 750 deca. A brutal 10-day gastrointestinal thing that had me on the toilet 10-20x a day.

Epic sample size, but that's my anecdotal evidence for ya

Alex23 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 10, 2013, 04:39:21 PM »

Yes. So does EQ.

HTH.

RRKore · « **Reply #4 on:** November 10, 2013, 04:48:41 PM »

Not sure if this related or not but a guy I know very well is taking about 700mg/week of Deca (+ the same amount of test) and had an emergency root canal. Afterwards, though given prescriptions for vicodin, motrin, and amoxicillin, he was pleased to find out there was virtually no pain so he didn't take any of that stuff.

ChristopherA · « **Reply #5 on:** November 10, 2013, 04:49:08 PM »

Deca sucks. Well, for me that is. Some people respond well to it and love it. Jus bloat and feeling like ass over here. EQ>Deca

Alex23 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 10, 2013, 05:07:57 PM »

Quote from: RRKore on November 10, 2013, 04:48:41 PM

Not sure if this related or not but a guy I know very well is taking about 700mg/week of Deca (+ the same amount of test) and had an emergency root canal. Afterwards, though given prescriptions for vicodin, motrin, and amoxicillin, he was pleased to find out there was virtually no pain so he didn't take any of that stuff.

Good for him and point made. Not sure about pain but He should at least have taken the amoxicillin to prevent potential infections. He did not and came out ok.

Big Chiro Flex · « **Reply #7 on:** November 10, 2013, 05:11:01 PM »

Quote from: ChristopherA on November 10, 2013, 04:49:08 PM

Deca sucks. Well, for me that is. Some people respond well to it and love it. Jus bloat and feeling like ass over here. EQ>Deca

Opposite for me homes.

Deca gram for gram blows EQ outta the water.

Alex23 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 10, 2013, 05:14:21 PM »

Quote from: Chiro Flex on November 10, 2013, 05:11:01 PM

Opposite for me homes.

Deca gram for gram blows EQ outta the water.

Yea no doubt there but EQ has benefits over deca, depends what your goal is.

Big Chiro Flex · « **Reply #9 on:** November 10, 2013, 05:15:52 PM »

Quote from: Alex23 on November 10, 2013, 05:14:21 PM

Yea no doubt there but EQ has benefits over deca, depends what your goal is.

For me the difference comes down to whether I wanna look dry or not.

Winter time = deca seasons

Summer time = EQ season.

What do you think?

Alex23 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 10, 2013, 05:27:45 PM »

Quote from: Chiro Flex on November 10, 2013, 05:15:52 PM

For me the difference comes down to whether I wanna look dry or not.

Winter time = deca seasons

Summer time = EQ season.

What do you think?

Right on the money. My experience with Deca is never use it in isolation. Always stack with an androgen. Not the case with EQ.

flinstones1 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 10, 2013, 05:32:20 PM »

Quote from: Chiro Flex on November 10, 2013, 05:15:52 PM

For me the difference comes down to whether I wanna look dry or not.

Winter time = deca seasons

Summer time = EQ season.

What do you think?

why not run them both?

alex- what kind of doses you running these days?

Big Chiro Flex · « **Reply #12 on:** November 10, 2013, 05:38:31 PM »

Quote from: flinstones1 on November 10, 2013, 05:32:20 PM

why not run them both?

alex- what kind of doses you running these days?

Maybe eventually try it?? I'm a low doser though man....I don't need to go over 1g total EVER. Always test plus 1 other compound is how I operate.

Mawse · « **Reply #13 on:** November 10, 2013, 05:58:04 PM »

would be nice if that were the case but I really doubt it. Although it can't negatively affect it much or they wouldn't have given it to AIDS patients for so long.

it kept me strong and relatively pain free on my HRT dose (had a script for 200mg week before they killed the Florida clinics) but it always makes me look especially bloofy even in low doses. Something weird happens with my subQ water an in a couple of weeks I literally lose every vein on my body

ChristopherA · « **Reply #14 on:** November 10, 2013, 06:05:37 PM »

Quote from: Chiro Flex on November 10, 2013, 05:11:01 PM

Opposite for me homes.

Deca gram for gram blows EQ outta the water.

I dont disagree that deca will build far more size on you than EQ. I usually use something more for the look it gives me, build size easy. Dont wanna weigh 250lbs

usmcdevildoc · « **Reply #15 on:** November 10, 2013, 06:47:32 PM »

Immune function?? Whose cool-aide u been drinking?

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Alex23 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 10, 2013, 06:50:09 PM »

Quote from: usmcdevildoc on November 10, 2013, 06:47:32 PM

Lift. fuck, make money

LOL... another dreamer.

theworm · « **Reply #17 on:** November 10, 2013, 07:07:51 PM »

Quote from: usmcdevildoc on November 10, 2013, 06:47:32 PM

Immune function?? Whose cool-aide u been drinking?

DOC
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Just reading in the clinical trials with deca and HIV patients... I wouldn't call double blind studies "Kool Aide"...

Increasing CD8 cells could lead to anti viral effects

usmcdevildoc · « **Reply #18 on:** November 10, 2013, 07:38:47 PM »

Quote from: theworm on November 10, 2013, 07:07:51 PM

Just reading in the clinical trials with deca and HIV patients... I wouldn't call double blind studies "Kool Aide"...

Increasing CD8 cells could lead to anti viral effects

Takes more than disrupting CD4/CD8 ratio to alter immune function. Deca does nothing to alter viral load. Additionally there is much less information on exactly if it even alters adaptive vs. innate immunity.

You try the Kool-Aide?

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ProudVirgin69 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 10, 2013, 07:46:41 PM »

Quote from: usmcdevildoc on November 10, 2013, 07:38:47 PM

Takes more than disrupting CD4/CD8 ratio to alter immune function. Deca does nothing to alter viral load. Additionally there is much less information on exactly if it even alters adaptive vs. innate immunity.

You try the Kool-Aide?

DOC
Lift, fuck, make money

What about hgh and its effect on immunity? Any truth to that?

usmcdevildoc · « **Reply #20 on:** November 10, 2013, 08:17:02 PM »

Quote from: ProudVirgin69 on November 10, 2013, 07:46:41 PM

What about hgh and its effect on immunity? Any truth to that?

Definitely mediated through IGF1 // IGF2. GH is known to stimulate immune function.

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theworm · « **Reply #21 on:** November 11, 2013, 05:04:48 AM »

Quote from: usmcdevildoc on November 10, 2013, 07:38:47 PM

Takes more than disrupting CD4/CD8 ratio to alter immune function. Deca does nothing to alter viral load. Additionally there is much less information on exactly if it even alters adaptive vs. innate immunity.

You try the Kool-Aide?

DOC
Lift, fuck, make money

Takes more than disrupting cd8 to cd4 ration to alter immune function? Wow, that's prob the dumbest thing I ever heard! Tell that to an aids patient! Dumbass. Your just pulled a tbomz, you googled something and don't know shit about it.

Good try "doc"

Prob an ER doc, lol. A glorified triage nurse

theworm · « **Reply #22 on:** November 11, 2013, 05:08:17 AM »

Quote from: usmcdevildoc on November 10, 2013, 08:17:02 PM

Definitely mediated through IGF1 // IGF2. GH is known to stimulate immune function.

DOC
Lift, fuck , make money

Cd8 plays a much larger role in immunity than igf!

Take what this "doc" days with a grain of salt

Ronnie Rep · « **Reply #23 on:** November 11, 2013, 05:55:26 AM »

Don't no about anti-viral but it worked great for cutting! Watch out for deca dick!

usmcdevildoc · « **Reply #24 on:** November 11, 2013, 09:20:46 AM »

Quote from: theworm on November 11, 2013, 05:04:48 AM

Takes more than disrupting cd8 to cd4 ration to alter immune function? Wow, that's prob the dumbest thing I ever heard! Tell that to an aids patient! Dumbass. Your just pulled a tbomz, you googled something and don't know shit about it.

Good try "doc"

Prob an ER doc, lol. A glorified triage nurse

Bro-- Why so defensive? Do I detect some penis envy?
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Boarded in Internal Med. and Neuro. Subspecialty in neuromuscular.
Was Battalion Surgeon for USMC in Desert Storm-- thing was nerve agents.

But that is ok. You just go ahead and drink some more Kool aide. My dick is bigger than your dick anyway. NO HOMO.

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