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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2013, 06:41:48 PM »
Or is this just fantasy. Caught in a landslide. No escape from reality....

Ahhh shit, I don't want that song in my head.  I gotta go train legs in an hour or so...

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2013, 06:53:45 PM »
I never said who put them out only that they werent fake.

I agree that some of them are humorous but that doesnt give them a pass for promoting behavior that is not ideal

No insults for now.  (Really hard for me to not make jokes about you being a "weirgin" or freaking out about the average WYHI thread, btw.)

Tony, are you for real? 

Do you seriously find objection to ads that accurately recognize that young adults are sexually active today in 2013 in the USA? 

Are you maybe just acting like these ads are offensive (improper?) because you're an opponent of ACA?

Where do you live where that attitude is not considered out-of-step with your age group? 

After all, none of the models depicted in the ads look underage, do they?

I think the ads are kinda funny and completely harmless, if not slightly useful.


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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2013, 05:16:32 AM »
No insults for now.  (Really hard for me to not make jokes about you being a "weirgin" or freaking out about the average WYHI thread, btw.)

Tony, are you for real? 

Do you seriously find objection to ads that accurately recognize that young adults are sexually active today in 2013 in the USA? 

Are you maybe just acting like these ads are offensive (improper?) because you're an opponent of ACA?

Where do you live where that attitude is not considered out-of-step with your age group? 

After all, none of the models depicted in the ads look underage, do they?

I think the ads are kinda funny and completely harmless, if not slightly useful.


There is a difference between recognizing that these things happen and promoting them.

I can recognize that binge drinking is part of many young peoples life, that doesn't mean I think you should promote it as acceptable behavior.

Same with being promiscuous

Do you think your stance is do to your support for obamacare.

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2013, 05:25:40 AM »
The ad is a sad attempt at appealing to hip twenty-somethings.  Birth control pills don't prevent aids.
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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2013, 07:53:10 AM »
There is a difference between recognizing that these things happen and promoting them.

I can recognize that binge drinking is part of many young peoples life, that doesn't mean I think you should promote it as acceptable behavior.

Same with being promiscuous

Do you think your stance is do to your support for obamacare.

I think we don't speak the same language sometimes.  I question your definitions of "promiscuous" and "promote".

From dictionary.com:
pro·mis·cu·ous
[pruh-mis-kyoo-uhs]
adjective
1.  characterized by or involving indiscriminate mingling or association, especially having sexual relations with a number of partners on a casual basis.


I don't think these ads concern promiscuousness, only pre-marital sex.  These terms are not interchangeable (except to abstention-minded bible belt folks, maybe). 

I'd also like to know how you think these ads are "promoting" sexuality?  Seems to me that they're promoting insurance.  They also imply contraception is good when it comes to pre-marital sex.  Are they saying that pre-marital sex is good?  Hmmm.  Well the people in the ads DO look happy but that's about it.  In this day and age, the debate as to whether or not pre-marital sex is acceptable is over.  It's here to stay and is not considered a bad thing by the great majority, just a thing that one needs to take great care to be responsible about (by making sure to use protection). 

That's fine if you're an uptight social conservative but please realize that these views are out-of-step in today's world and COMPLETELY counter to opinions of most getbiggers.  As I've said before, if anybody should be expected to respect the power of hormones, it's your average getbigger.  (Since you're an anabolic "virgin" who grew up in Texas, though, I can maybe I can understand why you are different.) BTW, if your conservative views about sexuality are born of attempts to validate your own dry dick well, you don't need to accept that.  If you have just a little money in your pocket (for a plane flight), even a short, pudgy asian dude can tear it up over in Thailand.  (I'd be happy to share my knowledge with you about this, too. lol)

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2013, 12:09:46 PM »
I never said who put them out only that they werent fake.

I agree that some of them are humorous but that doesnt give them a pass for promoting behavior that is not ideal

You didn't but the website did where is says it is the Colorado healthcare signup site. There are a lot of idiots who would read that and think it was true. Apparently some of those folks are Getbiggers. When you read the responses here, you notice they imply that it is a legitimate site put up by the government. It's a prank site, plain and simple.

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2013, 12:13:33 PM »
You didn't but the website did where is says it is the Colorado healthcare signup site. There are a lot of idiots who would read that and think it was true. Apparently some of those folks are Getbiggers. When you read the responses here, you notice they imply that it is a legitimate site put up by the government. It's a prank site, plain and simple.

It is?  Proof?

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2013, 12:19:03 PM »
It is?  Proof?

The proof is in simply doing a little checking, as I did when I clicked on the link which was originally posted in this thread. At the bottom of the Yahoo News post there is a link to the site that created these adds, it is: doyougotinsurance.com. Unfortunately, people believe what they want to believe and often don't question things like this when it supports their beliefs. The site claims to be the Colorado healthcare sign-up site. I already posted the link to the real Colorado healthcare sign-up, but here it is again: https://prd.connectforhealthco.com/individual. Anyone with a little web design experience can put up a site that purports to be something it is not.

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2013, 12:31:08 PM »
The proof is in simply doing a little checking, as I did when I clicked on the link which was originally posted in this thread. At the bottom of the Yahoo News post there is a link to the site that created these adds, it is: doyougotinsurance.com. Unfortunately, people believe what they want to believe and often don't question things like this when it supports their beliefs. The site claims to be the Colorado healthcare sign-up site. I already posted the link to the real Colorado healthcare sign-up, but here it is again: https://prd.connectforhealthco.com/individual. Anyone with a little web design experience can put up a site that purports to be something it is not.

I went to the first link you posted and it takes you to the second link you posted.  How could it possibly be a prank site if it actually directs people to the signup page? 

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2013, 12:46:17 PM »
I went to the first link you posted and it takes you to the second link you posted.  How could it possibly be a prank site if it actually directs people to the signup page? 

If I had the time and inclination, I'd build a site just to show you how it is done. Anyone can post any link one their webpage even links to government sites. You believe it is official because that is what you want to believe. The unfortunate thing is you're not alone, you have a ton of company.

There are people in government who are stupid enough to create ads like those. In fact since the Legislators are divided on Obamacare, it's possible some Congressperson actually did create it, although I rather doubt or at least hope that isn't the case.

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2013, 12:53:08 PM »
If I had the time and inclination, I'd build a site just to show you how it is done. Anyone can post any link one their webpage even links to government sites. You believe it is official because that is what you want to believe. The unfortunate thing is you're not alone, you have a ton of company.

There are people in government who are stupid enough to create ads like those. In fact since the Legislators are divided on Obamacare, it's possible some Congressperson actually did create it, although I rather doubt or at least hope that isn't the case.

I never said it was an "official site."  Never believed it was.  You said it was a "prank" site.  That's what I was addressing.  It's not a "prank" site.  It's a site a non-government agency website established to market Obamacare to young folks.

Maybe we have different definitions of a "prank" site?  A site that has fake news (The Onion) or other sites with parodies and satire are prank sites, at least to me.

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2013, 04:49:49 PM »
I never said it was an "official site."  Never believed it was.  You said it was a "prank" site.  That's what I was addressing.  It's not a "prank" site.  It's a site a non-government agency website established to market Obamacare to young folks.

Maybe we have different definitions of a "prank" site?  A site that has fake news (The Onion) or other sites with parodies and satire are prank sites, at least to me.

I think you and I are splitting hairs here.

In my opinion, it is unfortunate that this site exists at all, because it sends the wrong message to young people while also reflecting badly on Obamacare, which with the sign-up problems and with people having their policies cancelled has enough issues to deal with already. The site appears to encourage bad and careless behavior on the part of younger people, many of who already have the bad behavior thing down pat.

It may not be a prank site as you suggest it isn't. What do you think of it, the message it sends and the reflection by association on Obamacare? What do you suppose their site creator's intent was when they put it up?

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2013, 05:05:23 PM »
I think you and I are splitting hairs here.

In my opinion, it is unfortunate that this site exists at all, because it sends the wrong message to young people while also reflecting badly on Obamacare, which with the sign-up problems and with people having their policies cancelled has enough issues to deal with already. The site appears to encourage bad and careless behavior on the part of younger people, many of who already have the bad behavior thing down pat.

It may not be a prank site as you suggest it isn't. What do you think of it, the message it sends and the reflection by association on Obamacare? What do you suppose their site creator's intent was when they put it up?
this isnt a prank as far as I can see, its a bad attempt to get ppl to sign up. Like you said promoting bad behavior in a group of individuals already known for their bad behavior.

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2013, 05:27:58 PM »
I think you and I are splitting hairs here.

In my opinion, it is unfortunate that this site exists at all, because it sends the wrong message to young people while also reflecting badly on Obamacare, which with the sign-up problems and with people having their policies cancelled has enough issues to deal with already. The site appears to encourage bad and careless behavior on the part of younger people, many of who already have the bad behavior thing down pat.

It may not be a prank site as you suggest it isn't. What do you think of it, the message it sends and the reflection by association on Obamacare? What do you suppose their site creator's intent was when they put it up?

It sends a bad message to young people that promotes binge drinking and promiscuity.  We should be encouraging kids to be responsible and have committed relationships. 

It does smack of desperation.  Not enough young people are interested.  This is a way to try and get their attention.  Wrong approach. 

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2013, 06:13:18 PM »
It sends a bad message to young people that promotes binge drinking and promiscuity.  We should be encouraging kids to be responsible and have committed relationships. 

It does smack of desperation.  Not enough young people are interested.  This is a way to try and get their attention.  Wrong approach. 

Are you suggesting this website is endorsed by the Colorado healthcare signup site? I think otherwise. However, whoever created it probably did so with the intention of shining a disparaging light on Obamacare.

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2013, 06:24:06 PM »
Are you suggesting this website is endorsed by the Colorado healthcare signup site? I think otherwise. However, whoever created it probably did so with the intention of shining a disparaging light on Obamacare.

Officially endorsed?  No. 

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2013, 06:34:20 PM »
Officially endorsed?  No. 

Leaving a crack in the door, are we? So you think it is unofficially endorsed by them then?

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2013, 07:15:35 PM »
Are you suggesting this website is endorsed by the Colorado healthcare signup site? I think otherwise. However, whoever created it probably did so with the intention of shining a disparaging light on Obamacare.
are you saying that b/c these ads are seriously in bad taste?

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2013, 07:25:49 PM »
Questions, questions:
- What Sunday school is this, anyway? 
- Are we not men? 
- Do we not enjoy sex? 
- Must we be married in order to get it?

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2013, 08:59:35 PM »
Questions, questions:
- What Sunday school is this, anyway? 
- Are we not men? 
- Do we not enjoy sex? 
- Must we be married in order to get it?

What fag said this?

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2013, 10:05:57 PM »
are you saying that b/c these ads are seriously in bad taste?

I think the ads are in bad taste. I am saying this because a tiny bit of research exposed them to not be ads that were either created by the government or endorsed by the government. It seems highly likely they are intended as an attack on Obamacare. This is why  I am saying this.

If Obamacare sucks, it sucks. But divisive websites to undermine Obamacare simply don't wash with me.

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #46 on: November 15, 2013, 03:58:08 AM »
I think the ads are in bad taste. I am saying this because a tiny bit of research exposed them to not be ads that were either created by the government or endorsed by the government. It seems highly likely they are intended as an attack on Obamacare. This is why  I am saying this.

If Obamacare sucks, it sucks. But divisive websites to undermine Obamacare simply don't wash with me.
You do understand that whether the govt created them or not does not have any relevance to the legitimacy of the ads, right?

The ads themselves give you links to facilitate signing up don't they?

What more proof do you need they are legit ads?

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2013, 05:51:57 AM »
You do understand that whether the govt created them or not does not have any relevance to the legitimacy of the ads, right?

The ads themselves give you links to facilitate signing up don't they?

What more proof do you need they are legit ads?

No. He doesn't understand.

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2013, 08:35:12 AM »
Leaving a crack in the door, are we? So you think it is unofficially endorsed by them then?

Sure.  Just like PAC ads aren't officially endorsed by candidates.  Candidates often let other people do their dirty work. 

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Re: Ad promotes promiscuity to push birth control coverage angle of obamacare
« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2013, 09:18:49 AM »
What fag said this?

TonyMcTones implied it.  I doubt that he's a fag but he is strongly against casual sex. 

For a relatively young guy on getbig (home of the ever-popular WYHI? threads), I find this unusual.  And funny.