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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2013, 04:50:09 PM »
Sounds like an emotional reply.  Can't argue with someone crying.
WoW!  Sounds like a normal response from a normal human being to innocent children being violently attacked and killed.  Your response sounds like the typical response of a sociopath. I understand now why you are attracted to pitbulls,
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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2013, 04:50:40 PM »
Genetics are genetics.

Black people are dumb

Indians smell.

Fish swim.

Birds fly.

Pitbulls bite.

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2013, 04:54:37 PM »
So what.  Very few drunk drivers ever harm or kill anybody, doesn't make drink driving any less of a risk.  Very few vermin spread disease or harm or kill anyone, yet you are free to kill as many of them as you like.  And the point you make is the very problem, due to so few being a risk, it is impossible to predict with any certainty which pitbull will be next to attack and cause serious injury or death.  Everyone would be safer if ALL pitbulls were dangerous, then society would just take the same measures they do with dangerous wild animals like lions or bears.  The whole issue is the two competing interests, the do gooders attempting to convert a fighting breed into a companion animal and those who continue to breed for the dogs original purpose and keep the game in.

The do-gooders should have never touched the breed, they are the problem.  It was a nice fairy tale,  Goodness turns violent fighting dog into sweet gentle companion animal, only it didn't work out like that.  Now pitbull fatalities are inevitable, and have gone from an average of 5 a year in the 1980's to over 18 a year in the 2000's and climbing.

You're a PETA supporting fagget. I won't bother even attempting to have a rational discussion with you because you're totally incapable. You're too emotional.
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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2013, 05:02:22 PM »
You're a PETA supporting fagget. I won't bother even attempting to have a rational discussion with you because you're totally incapable. You're too emotional.
Translation:  The cognitive dissonance I will experience being confronted with someone with actual factual information would be too much for me to handle.  Rather than listen to someone who has actually investigated the issue thoroughly I will stick with the propaganda I currently have.  Besides, pitbulls make me feel macho and make my cock really hard.  Pitbulls ROOL!  Fuck YEAH!
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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2013, 05:04:11 PM »
These pitbull threads are always funny. People so upset about a few dog deaths, yet completely unconcerned about cigarettes, drugs, alcohol, gang violence, toxins in the food and water....on and on....lol. Yeah, let's ban a breed to save a couple dozen people a year.
Carry on crybabies.
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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2013, 05:04:52 PM »
I have a pack of gamebred pits that I sic on PETA faggets.
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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2013, 05:14:07 PM »
Wendy wouldn't harm a fly and could probably bench more than 90% of Getbiggers.


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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2013, 05:28:29 PM »
I've been bitten by a shitzu, chihuahua, a rabbit and a turtle. Never in my life have I been bitten by a pit bull.
I've caught a cold from exposure to chilly weather, crashed my car in heavy rain and fog and got severely sunburned in hot weather. But never in my life has a cyclone, hurricane, earthquake or lightning harmed me.  I guess that settles it, my experience must constitute reality, cyclones, hurricanes, earthquakes and lightning must be safe and any attempts to protect oneself from them is pointless and moot.
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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2013, 05:52:34 PM »
sure bro hope this helps  ??? that does say labs doesnt it  ???

from Wikipedia

Hahahhahaha, way to post 33 year old literature that was taken from newspapers.   ::)  Here, let's try something a little more recent:

2012 dog bite fatalities :

Information gathered by DogsBite.org is verifiable1 through Internet archive services. Our Fatality Citations section documents each source used in our dog bite-related fatality research.

2012 statistics

38 U.S. fatal dog attacks occurred in 2012. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 600 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 61% (23) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up less than 5% of the total U.S. dog population.

Together, pit bulls (23) and rottweilers (3), the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 68% of all fatal attacks in 2012. In the 8-year period from 2005 to 2012, this combination accounted for 73% (183) of the total recorded deaths (251).

The breakdown between pit bulls and rottweilers is substantial over this 8-year period. From 2005 to 2012, pit bulls killed 151 Americans, about one citizen every 19 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 32, about one citizen every 91 days.

Annual data from 2012 shows that 50% (19) of the victims were adults, 21-years and older, and the other half were children, ages 8-years and younger. Of the total children killed by dogs in 2012, 79% (15) were ages 2-years and younger.

Annual data also shows that males were more often victims, 61% (23), than females. The majority of male victims, 61% (14), were ages 8-years and younger. Of the total female victims, only 33% (5) fell into this same age group.

In 2012, roughly one-third, 32% (12), of all dog bite fatality victims were either visiting or living temporarily with the dog's owner when the fatal attack occurred. Children 8-years and younger accounted for 75% (9) of these deaths.

34% (13) of all fatalities in 2012 involved more than one dog; 13% (5) involved breeding on the dog owner's property either actively or in the recent past, and 5% (2) involved tethered dogs, down from 6% in 2011, 9% in 2010 and 19% in 2009.

In 2012, dogs referred to as a "rescue" accounted for at least 13% (5) attacks that resulted in death. Children suffered the brunt of these attacks with 3 deaths. The adults afflicted, 2 adult females, were killed by their own pack of "rescued" dogs.

Dog ownership information for 2012 shows that family dogs comprised 58% (22) of all fatal occurrences; 82% (31) of all incidents occurred on the dog owner's property and 18% (7) resulted in criminal charges, down from 29% in 2011.

California and North Carolina led fatalities in 2012, each with 4 deaths. 75% of the California deaths occurred in San Diego County. Pit bull-type dogs accounted for 88% (7) of the 8 deaths. New Mexico, Ohio and Texas followed, each with 3 deaths

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2013, 05:56:15 PM »
http://www.examiner.com/article/child-attacked-by-dog-latest-incident-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-pit-bulls

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So let's see, a 15 month old was bitten by a lab mix, and survived?  Interesting, I thought for sure labs were vicious killers on par with pitbulls.  Maybe this infant has super human strength.  You posting this link just reaffirms what everyone has been saying.  "Pitbulls kill people.  Other breeds do not."   :D

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #60 on: November 13, 2013, 05:57:03 PM »
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now kid your selves ALL you want, that these types of dogs are great pets... they are fighting dogs, with fighting aggressive temperament

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2013, 06:18:12 PM »
dont get me wrong, he was a baby in the house, wanted on your knee all night etc... nightmare with animals soon as he hit 18month tho

the three types i pointed out sum up every fighting dog ive came across
i have had and  have so called fighting dogs and sll of them have been just fine with other doc cause i have socialised them from they where puppies..but i totally understand where you coming from. It is not a dog for everyone

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2013, 06:20:46 PM »
I'm afraid of Princess L dogs

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #63 on: November 13, 2013, 06:22:50 PM »
English Bull Terriers and English Staffys are not banned in the UK I believe, but the Pit Bull is. Makes you wonder...
same in norway. American staffordshire and pitbull is banned but not stqff8rdshire bullterriers.

Sidenote  couple of yeqrs ago the staffordshire bt was the most common dog in London and the 3rd most common in england

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #64 on: November 13, 2013, 06:23:02 PM »
How about y'all post statistics of how many dog attacks are recorded , instead of which dog causes the most deaths. Its like showing statistics of gun shots involving a 50 cal , of course almost every 50 cal results in a death or dismemberment. But a shooting is a shooting and intended to kill person on the other end of the bullet but some bullets "dog breed" are better at doing the intended thing

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« Reply #65 on: November 13, 2013, 06:31:10 PM »
How about y'all post statistics of how many dog attacks are recorded , instead of which dog causes the most deaths. Its like showing statistics of gun shots involving a 50 cal , of course almost every 50 cal results in a death or dismemberment. But a shooting is a shooting and intended to kill person on the other end of the bullet but some bullets "dog breed" are better at doing the intended thing

You're comparing apples to oranges.  There is no argument that all dogs bite.  Chihuahuas probably account for the most attacks.  However, they don't do damage.  Your gun analogy is incorrect.  A better comparison would be the effects of toy guns vs real guns.   :D

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #66 on: November 13, 2013, 06:39:31 PM »
But its the behavior I'm referring to its apples to apples just one apple has higher success rate when it decides to attack..... shooting is shooting some cal have a better success rate and human attacks are human attacks just some attackers have a better success rate .... robbery is robbery just some races have a better success rate

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #67 on: November 13, 2013, 07:22:55 PM »
same in norway. American staffordshire and pitbull is banned but not stqff8rdshire bullterriers.

Sidenote  couple of yeqrs ago the staffordshire bt was the most common dog in London and the 3rd most common in england
So, the dog fighting breed that the Pitbull is based from is NOT banned, and is continued to be bred underground for fighting, and the American Pitbull which looks similar is banned. So, in theory, people can continue to breed dogs for fighting and call them English Staffys...
One, breed discrimination. Two, a loophole.

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #68 on: November 13, 2013, 08:44:49 PM »
So, the dog fighting breed that the Pitbull is based from is NOT banned, and is continued to be bred underground for fighting, and the American Pitbull which looks similar is banned. So, in theory, people can continue to breed dogs for fighting and call them English Staffys...
One, breed discrimination. Two, a loophole.
They RESTRICT American Pitbulls, they allow the American and English Staffordshire.(they have the same legislation here in Australia)  This is how the Nutters get around the legislation , they simply register their pitbull as an American Staffordshire.  You generally just need proof from a Kennel Club or Veterinarian, who are all too happy to play along.

The whole renaming process started over 80 years ago to distance themselves from the fact they were bred to fight in Pits.  Initially the AKC rejected the pitbull breed, and in response the UKC was formed (started by a dogfighter), simply to register the pitbull breed.  Back then, for your pitbull to be accepted into the registry, it had to have won three fights, a requirement they later dropped).  The AKC eventually relented, and during the depression allowed pitbulls onto their books, but only under the name Staffordshire terrier,which they later changed to American Staffordshire.  You can dual register your pitbull, the UKC register it as an American Pitbull and the AKC as an American Staffordshire.

And just because American Pitbulls are restricted, doesn't mean you can't own one, just that you have greater responsibilities, they must be caged in secure housing, they must wear a muzzle and fluoro collar in public etc etc.  It's just the types of people who are attracted to the breed don't want to go to such effort, taking responsibility for those types of people isn't their strong suit.
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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #69 on: November 13, 2013, 08:46:52 PM »
How about y'all post statistics of how many dog attacks are recorded , instead of which dog causes the most deaths. Its like showing statistics of gun shots involving a 50 cal , of course almost every 50 cal results in a death or dismemberment. But a shooting is a shooting and intended to kill person on the other end of the bullet but some bullets "dog breed" are better at doing the intended thing
Bar Chart of Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to December 31, 2012, by Merritt Clifton, Animal People, December 31, 2012.
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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #70 on: November 13, 2013, 08:49:41 PM »
Bar Chart of Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to December 31, 2012, by Merritt Clifton, Animal People, December 31, 2012.
yes I agree with you that the pit has all the death but what's the odds of a dog attack being a pitbull... its like I rarely fight but when I do I'll fuck you up bad but others fight 10x more then me

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2013, 08:59:45 PM »
yes I agree with you that the pit has all the death but what's the odds of a dog attack being a pitbull... its like I rarely fight but when I do I'll fuck you up bad but others fight 10x more then me
I think it's quite high, especially if you take into consideration dog on dog attacks.  I live in Australia, and only have access to the stats they have here, which are pretty crappy, the one state that records dog attack incidents is the NSW Government, and I recently did a comparative chart highlighting the Pitbull Attack rate.

Taking a sample of a typical quarterly report, using the data collected from the (4th Quarter 2011/12), and using the 5 most popular breeds as an example to compare to the three breeds most commonly referred to as pitbulls. Here is the following data on Dog Attack Incidents Dog attack incidents reported by all councils from 1 April 2012 to 30 June 2012 (4th Quarter 2011/12) Quarterly NSW Report-Australia

The following is a quarterly comparison between Pitbull attack incidents opposed to the 4 most popular breeds of dog in NSW. The following are the top 5 most popular breeds in NSW Australia.  Pitbull (American Staffy/Pitbull/ English Staffy) 93637, Labrador Retriever 75851, Jack Russell Terrier 64591, Maltese Terrier 55164, Border Collie 48637.

  In this quarter pitbulls were responsible for 243 attacks while the other 4 popular breeds were responsible for 73, even though the other four popular breeds outnumbered pitbulls 2.6 to 1.  Put another way, if the popular breeds attacked as much as pitbulls did, the figure of 73 attacks would be roughly 630. Or the other way around, if pitbulls attacked at the same ratio as the other 4 popular breeds, the figure would go from 243 to 28.  So even though pitbulls are less than 2/5th of the Popular dog population in this sample, a pitbull attack is over 8 1/2 times more likely.



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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2013, 09:02:43 PM »
Na fuck that graph , there is only one Hugh risk dog on there that ain't fair

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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2013, 09:07:55 PM »
Na fuck that graph , there is only one Hugh risk dog on there that ain't fair
It's a comparative chart, highlighting the attack rate of the top 5 most popular breeds, it is these dogs that make up a large percentage of the dog population.  It also highlights how it is a breed issue. If other comparatively popular breeds attack at a significantly lower rate than pitbulls, there has to be a reason for this.

And no doubt there are other dangerous breeds, but at the moment, the pit bull is highly popular, significantly increasing everyone's actuarial risk.
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Re: Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.
« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2013, 09:09:34 PM »
Pittbull owner for life. I love the breed.  8)



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