Ohhhh, those cute and cuddly pit bulls. What a touching story.

[shrek]

lol 

Ignore e kul he is a lier and have told so many lies thst he forcegs whst he said. Like tve koran (quran?)  Once he said thst i never going to read it and before that he had read it. Same with how many pitbulls he have had, the number changes from time to time

I can't tell if your drunk or if you have BROKEN English

[Kim Jong Bob]

I can't tell if your drunk or if you have BROKEN English

lol my english sucks and in im writing from my Phone so i often press the wrong  letter because of my big fingers but hey atleast im not as bad as dave checkz.

[NordicNerd]

..
in fact the poodle records more bites a year on humans than any other breed???

Source please? Such a statistic would also need to be corrected for size of the breed population.

NN

[NordicNerd]

And don't you ever forget that buddy. Because if by some miracle you and your kind actually grow a pair and decide to come knocking we'll be ready and waiting for you.

Good luck. 

You come across as a primitive macho bully and you prove E-kul's point.

NN

[NordicNerd]

Meltdown.  

The great thing about this thread is you've accomplished absolutely nothing. I didn't even entertain a single one of your so called arguments lol. I love pitbulls. I'll continue to be a pitbull owner. I'll even continue to promote responsible pitbull ownership in my neighborhood and where ever me and my pits go. You should see my block... so many pits. It's glorious.

Enjoy your meltdown. I'll enjoy owning pitbulls. I win.

Your arguments are basically only that

1) You like Pitbulls
2) Pitbulls can be great pets
3. It's the owners responsibility if a Pitbull does harm
4) Other breeds can be aggressive too

I'll answer these for you:
1) Good for you that you live in a country where they are legal then, cause in many countries pitbulls are banned
2) Comparable to playing with loaded guns and leave them in your house for your children to play with- good fun until they are dead or injured
3) Does not help those who are harmed. Is there a legislation/license for having Pitbulls? No! How can then a society accept the risk of accepting pitbulls in public places?
4) Sure, and those who kill or seriously injure people should also not be allowed.

NN

[chaos]

To ignore the possibility that pitbulls may have a genetic disposition for aggression is ludicrous. Science has shown that parents pass on genetics to their children, and this includes temperament and personality. So it is entirely plausible that when 2 aggressive pitbulls breed, they may pass on the aggressive gene to offspring. And since pitbulls are often bred for aggression and fighting, it makes sense that their offspring will be this way.

I do not know if pitbulls always had an innate gene for aggression or whether it was produced by humans. But in order to break the chain of aggression, they need to stop treating pitbulls in that way. Hopefully that will decrease the chances of them passing on those aggressive genes to their offspring.

You do realize that a fighting dog that bit a person would be put down right? This breed was not bred to be human aggressive. People have taken the breeds genetic traits and manipulated them to take advantage of them. At what point do genetics give way other influences?

[bigmc]

bad dogs are usually the result of bad owners

its as simple as that

[Tapeworm]

At what point do genetics give way other influences?

When I meet a woman with a magical personality I'll let you know.  Until then I'm an ass man.

[chaos]

bad dogs are usually the result of bad owners

its as simple as that

This. The "gangsta" culture and it's glorification in mainstream media has oversaturated the population of "pitbulls". Many cases of "pitbull" attacks aren't even pits, just "pitbull type" dogs.

[chaos]

When I meet a woman with a magical personality I'll let you know.  Until then I'm an ass man.

chocolate starfish?
 backdoor belly button?
 flesh donut?
 sludge slide?

I know, sounds like just the sort of Caribbean vacation you've been meaning to take,  right?

[Tapeworm]

You know damn well I didn't mean the tradesman's entrance!

[chaos]

You know damn well I didn't mean the tradesman's entrance!

I thought you were being subtle.

[SF1900]

You do realize that a fighting dog that bit a person would be put down right? This breed was not bred to be human aggressive. People have taken the breeds genetic traits and manipulated them to take advantage of them. At what point do genetics give way other influences?

It may not have been originally bred for aggression, but unfortunately they are now, and they will continue to pass on their genes for as long as humans keep treating them that way.

There is often a reciprocal nature between environment and genetics. The environment influences the expression of genes. The whole nature vs nurture debate is rather old, as most scientists believe there is a relationship between genes and environment. The environment will determine if the pitbulls aggressive gene is expressed or not.


Gene-Environment Interactions

Environmental factors are certainly critical in defining phenotypes during early development, as in the armadillos, and they continue to influence phenotypes throughout an organism's life cycle. Nearly every aspect of our development and behavior is affected by both the personal experiences we gain through our environment and our genetic makeup. For example, we obtain necessary amino acids through our diets, and the incorporation of these nutrients into our bodies is determined by our genes. It is also important to remember that genes are not a steadfast blueprint for heredity. Genes are actually quite active throughout our lives, switching their expression on and off in response to the environment and experience. Environmental factors can affect and alter gene expression, while our genes can define how we respond to different environments.

In an age in which scientists and the public are excited about the sequencing of the entire human genome, we need to temper that excitement, at least a little, and be careful not to believe all the hype surrounding genes' involvement in determining development and behavior. While an organism's genetic makeup plays a critical role in its development, there is also a rich and complex interplay between the genome and cues from the environment. It is not a question of which one affects us more, nature (heredity) or nurture (environment); instead, it is a question of how signals that are not hard-coded interact with our genetics to make us complex individuals. Indeed, it is actually superficial to debate whether nature or nurture is more important. In truth, the relationship between genetic determinants and the environment is so completely entwined that you cannot look at an individual and judge which contribution is more valuable. Together, the continual interplay of both genes and ever-changing environmental factors determines who we are.