Ben Johnson squatted 600 pounds for 6 reps

[flinstones1]

according to his trainer Charlie Francis,  2 sets of 6 reps all below parallel  at his peak. At a bodyweight of less than 200 pounds.

 Anyone believe this?

[Wolfox]

Yes. 600 for a couple reps, yes that's believable.

[BB]

2:45ish in the clip -

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Can believe #600, not so sure on the reps.

[flinstones1]

ben also benched 407 for 2 according to Charlie.

[nasht5]

for those of you to young to remember ben johnson lost his olympic gold medal because he failed the drug test in I think 88?

[Wolfox]

2:45ish in the clip -

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Can believe #600, not so sure on the reps.

Maybe at the peak of his strength cycle.

[flinstones1]

for those of you to young to remember ben johnson lost his olympic gold medal because he failed the drug test in I think 88?

yep to carl lewis.  I think he started off with winny and moved on to Dbol later because it bothered his joints. 3 weeks on 3 weeks off, very basic protocols. I don't know if these guys used test or not. Dbol seems like a strange choice for a sprinter. Why not equipoise? it was designed  to make for faster race horses afterall

[Viking11]

Well that was 495 for 6- so maybe 600 for 2 .

[Coach is Back!]

Most elite sprinters are strong as f**k. It's a power sport. Speed is power, power in sprinting = a greater forced application. Drugs or not, he was would have been a 475lb + squatter. When I go to USC to observe, I see the some of the athlete on the mens track team out squatting the football players. As far as upper body, the power has to be just as equal since upper body power is at lease 20% + in sprinting. The greater arm action and elbow drive the more power translates to the lower body, for every action there's a opposite and equal reaction.

[TEMPER]

yep to carl lewis.  I think he started off with winny and moved on to Dbol later because it bothered his joints. 3 weeks on 3 weeks off, very basic protocols. I don't know if these guys used test or not. Dbol seems like a strange choice for a sprinter. Why not equipoise? it was designed  to make for faster race horses afterall

They all used tons of shit including growth hormone. Ben had his own  doctor (steroid guru) on staff by the team. You don't have your own doctor for some measly dbol pills..Dude was on tons of shit - just like every other Olympic athlete.

Talk about the people who used heavy GH needing to wear braces (Carl Lewis):

Talk about all kinds of Olympic and sports doping straight from the O.G. himself:

[galeniko]

thanks for that video

[ProudVirgin69]

Squatted heavy-ass weights, and was lanky....so much for the "strength=size" theory

[Parker]

according to his trainer Charlie Francis,  2 sets of 6 reps all below parallel  at his peak. At a bodyweight of less than 200 pounds.

 Anyone believe this?

He weighed 165 back in 1988.

[24KT]

according to his trainer Charlie Francis,  2 sets of 6 reps all below parallel  at his peak. At a bodyweight of less than 200 pounds.

 Anyone believe this?

Yes, I believe it. I know Ben personally. That man had muscles on his muscles. lol.

[Kim Jong Bob]

yep to carl lewis.  I think he started off with winny and moved on to Dbol later because it bothered his joints. 3 weeks on 3 weeks off, very basic protocols. I don't know if these guys used test or not. Dbol seems like a strange choice for a sprinter. Why not equipoise? it was designed  to make for faster race horses afterall

in charllie Francis book speed trap  he goes on whst his athletes took including ben. The dbol was 3w on 3weeks off  they cykled like that for months on 10-15mg. The took winny to at wery low doses (according to francis you never know if its the truth) and it was stanozolol they found in his test. But the strsnge thing is it was in so high concentrated thst he must have tsken a very high dose 1 hour before the finals and ben should  knew better. Victor conte said that carl lewis coach  was let in where ben johnson was when he was waiting to take the test and bem was drinking a beer, according to victor it is a bkg chamce that carl lewis coach spiked the beer with stanozol.
But no one will find out what really happen but ben johson knew how many weeks before he should stop to beat the test and that it would make no sense to take a big dose 1 hour before the finals

[Wolfox]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics/athletics/7403158.stm

Dear Dwain,
Per your request, this letter is to confirm I am willing to assist you in providing UK Sport and others with information that will help them to improve the effectiveness of their anti-doping programs.
The specific details regarding how you were able to circumvent the British and IAAF anti-doping tests for an extended period of time are provided below.
Your performance enhancing drug program included the following seven prohibited substances: THG, testosterone/epitestosterone cream, EPO (Procrit), HGH (Serostim), insulin (Humalog), modafinil (Provigil) and liothryonine, which is a synthetic form of the T3 thyroid hormone (Cytomel).
THG is a previously undetectable designer steroid nicknamed "the clear." It was primarily used in the off season and was taken two days per week, typically on Mondays and Wednesdays. Generally, these were the two most intense weight-training days of the week. The purpose was to accelerate healing and tissue repair. Thirty units (IU) of the liquid was place under the tongue during the morning time-frame. THG was used in cycles of "three weeks on and one week off."
Testosterone/epitestosterone cream was also primarily used during the off season. It was rubbed into the skin on the front of the forearm two days per week, typically Tuesdays and Thursdays. The dosage was ½ gram which contained 50mg of testosterone and 2.5mg of epitestosterone (20 to 1 ratio). The purpose was to offset the suppression of endogenous testosterone caused by the use of the THG and to accelerate recovery. The testosterone/epitestosterone cream was also used in cycles of three weeks on and one week off.
EPO was used three days per week during the "corrective phase", which is the first two weeks of a cycle. Typically, it was on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. It was only used once per week during the "maintenance phase" thereafter, typically this was every Wednesday. The dosage was 4,000 IU per injection. The purpose was to increase the red blood cell count and enhance oxygen uptake and utilization. This substance provides a big advantage to sprinters because it enables them to do more track repetitions and obtain a much deeper training load during the off season. EPO becomes undetectable about 72 hours after subcutaneous injection (stomach) and only 24 hours after intravenous injection.
HGH was used three nights per week, typically on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. Each injection would contain 4.5 units of growth hormone. Once again, this substance was used primarily during the off season to help with recovery from very strenuous weight training sessions.
Insulin was used after strenuous weight training sessions during the off season. Three units of Humalog (fast-acting insulin) were injected immediately after the workout sessions together with a powdered drink that contained 30 grams of dextrose, 30 grams of whey protein isolates and 3 grams of creatine. The purpose was to quickly replenish glycogen, resynthesize ATP and promote protein synthesis and muscle growth. Insulin acts as a "shuttle system" in the transport of glucose and branch chain amino acids. There is no test available for insulin at this time.
Modafinil was used as a "wakefulness promoting" agent before competitions. The purpose was to decrease fatigue and enhance mental alertness and reaction time. A 200mg tablet was consumed one hour before competition.
Liothryonine was used help accelerate the basic metabolic rate before competitions. The purpose was to reduce sluggishness and increase quickness. Two 25mg tablets were taken one hour before competition. There is no test available for liothryonine at this time.
In general terms, explosive strength athletes, such as sprinters, use anabolic steroids, growth hormone, insulin and EPO during the off season. They use these drugs in conjunction with an intense weight training program, which helps to develop a strength base that will serve them throughout the competitive season. Speed work is done just prior to the start of the competitive season.
It is important to understand it is not really necessary for athletes to have access to designer anabolic steroids such as THG. They can simply use fast-acting testosterone (oral as well as creams and gels) and still easily avoid the testers. For example, oral testosterone will clear the system in less than a week and testosterone creams and gels will clear even faster.
Many drug-tested athletes use what I call the "duck and dodge" technique. Several journalists in the UK have recently referred to it as the "duck and dive" technique. This is basically how it works.
First, the athlete repeatedly calls their own cell phone until the message capacity is full. This way the athlete can claim to the testers that they didn't get a message when they finally decide to make themselves available. Secondly, they provide incorrect information on their whereabouts form. They say they are going to one place and then go to another. Thereafter, they start using testosterone, growth hormone and other drugs for a short cycle of two to three weeks.
After the athlete discontinues using the drugs for a few days and they know that they will test clean, they become available and resume training at their regular facility.
Most athletes are tested approximately two times each year on a random out-of -competition basis. If a tester shows up and the athlete is not where they are supposed to be, then the athlete will receive a "missed test". This is the equivalent to receiving "strike one" when up to bat in a baseball game. The current anti-doping rules allow an athlete to have two missed tests in any given eighteen-month period without a penalty or consequence. So, the disadvantage for an athlete having a missed test is that they have one strike against them. The advantage of that missed test is the athlete has now received the benefit of a cycle of steroids. Long story short, an athlete can continue to duck and dive until they have two missed tests, which basically means that they can continue to use drugs until that time.
In summary, it's my opinion that more than fifty percent of the drug tests performed each year should be during the off season or the fourth quarter. This is when the track athletes are duckin' and divin' and using anabolic steroids and other drugs. Let me provide some rather startling information for your consideration. If you check the testing statistics on the USADA website, you will find that the number of out-of-competition drug tests performed during each quarter of 2007 are as follows: in the first quarter there were 1208, second quarter 1295, third quarter 1141 and in the fourth quarter there were only 642.
In late 2003 I advised USADA about the importance of random testing during the fourth quarter of the year. They did initially seem to follow my advice because they increased the number of fourth-quarter tests in 2004, 2005 and 2006.
However, they failed to continue this practice in 2007. Why would USADA decide to perform only 15% of their annual out-of-competition tests during the fourth quarter? Let's not forget that this is the off season before the upcoming summer Olympic Games. This is equivalent to a fisherman knowing that the fish are ready to bite and then consciously deciding that it is time to reel in his line and hook, lean his fishing pole up against a tree and take a nap.
On several occasions, I have provided detailed information to both USADA and WADA in an attempt to help them establish more effective testing policies and procedures.
I certainly have more information that I would like the opportunity to provide to you and UK Sport, but I will leave that for another time.
Hopefully, this information will be helpful and I am available to assist you further upon request.
Yours sincerely,
Victor Conte

[flinstones1]

Yes, I believe it. I know Ben personally. That man had muscles on his muscles. lol.

doesn't look like it in the videos. If you take a look at him squatting his trainers legs are thicker than him. Saw pictures of him where he looked a good 20 pounds heavier though and upper body was very well developed.

[mr.turbo]

This gentleman weighed 98lbs as a teen a maxed out at a grand total of 165lbs after ten years or solid training.  Then broke the world 100m record.

He spent most of his career getting beat but had a huge breakthrough when he figured out how to finish his race.

still has the best start of any sprinter and could have run even faster

freakish power too

[mr.turbo]

5'9" 165lb

10 YEARS of serious training on juice!

BUT!!!

We have NATURALS in bodybuilding that shit of these stats!!!!

 

[ukjeff]

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2003/apr/24/athletics.duncanmackay

Lewis has now acknowledged that he failed three tests during the 1988 US Olympic trials, which under international rules at the time should have prevented him from competing in the Seoul games two months later.

[Darren Avey]

In the video hes doing a half rep with someone helping him

[24KT]

in charllie Francis book speed trap  he goes on whst his athletes took including ben. The dbol was 3w on 3weeks off  they cykled like that for months on 10-15mg. The took winny to at wery low doses (according to francis you never know if its the truth) and it was stanozolol they found in his test. But the strsnge thing is it was in so high concentrated thst he must have tsken a very high dose 1 hour before the finals and ben should  knew better. Victor conte said that carl lewis coach  was let in where ben johnson was when he was waiting to take the test and bem was drinking a beer, according to victor it is a bkg chamce that carl lewis coach spiked the beer with stanozol.
But no one will find out what really happen but ben johson knew how many weeks before he should stop to beat the test and that it would make no sense to take a big dose 1 hour before the finals

There's no doubt he was set up. How else does someone test positive for a substance they weren't even taking? It was all about money. There was a heckuva lot of money in endorsement deals on the line, and there were those willing to ensure at any cost that the money didn't elude their interest. PERIOD!

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

2:45ish in the clip -

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Can believe #600, not so sure on the reps.

Above parallel, from box, 5 plates, which means it´s way lighter than a regular squat. Would maybe squat 5 plates deep, never 600 for 6 reps.

[Conker]

Above parallel, from box, 5 plates, which means it´s way lighter than a regular squat. Would maybe squat 5 plates deep, never 600 for 6 reps.

They were box squats with his trainer literally pulling him up on every rep. No way can he even squat what he has on the bar there to below parallel on his own. So 5 plates which I would guess are 45s , so probably 495 box squats with a lot of assistance from spotter, no way can he get anywhere near 600 x 6 below parallel.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

I agree conker. Interesting though, I´ve trained with a national level sprinter, and all he did was partials with 450/500 pounds. He said full squats were not beneficial for him. Little fucker was strong as hell though. He would hang powerclean double bodyweight like it was nothing . Everytime I said `dude try more weight` he would say nah... maybe next time, feels heavy.