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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2013, 05:12:43 PM »

Buy starbucks stock ..
its up 50% this year  Shocked

Most of you probably do not invest and are making things up. But this actually isn't bad advice. Schultz is an amazing CEO. Starbucks is far from done growing,with their expansion into the tea market and growth in china you should see this stock do well.

If any of you don't know his story check it out. Brilliant guy. Everyone told him this luxury coffee idea was terrible, couldn't find anybody in invest.
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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2013, 08:01:21 PM »

rothschild private bank stocks went up 600% within few yaers, then came down a bit.

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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2013, 08:09:43 PM »

This idiot clogs these boards with as much retarded shit as Shitso did...
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« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2013, 08:15:40 PM »

Only problem in CA and NY for that matter are the taxes. That's why NH is a nice place to trade with no cap gain tax and no income tax.

that's where your Tax attorney (not a CPA or Tax Advisor) and Nevada Corporations come in.  Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2013, 08:17:52 PM »

Most of you probably do not invest and are making things up. But this actually isn't bad advice. Schultz is an amazing CEO. Starbucks is far from done growing,with their expansion into the tea market and growth in china you should see this stock do well.

If any of you don't know his story check it out. Brilliant guy. Everyone told him this luxury coffee idea was terrible, couldn't find anybody in invest.

said the same thing about Green Mountian (k-cups)... and that took off like hell. (then dipped when fear of a patent running out got out.... then took off again when we found out it was a patent for an old design)
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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2013, 08:35:14 PM »

Most of you probably do not invest and are making things up. But this actually isn't bad advice. Schultz is an amazing CEO. Starbucks is far from done growing,with their expansion into the tea market and growth in china you should see this stock do well.

If any of you don't know his story check it out. Brilliant guy. Everyone told him this luxury coffee idea was terrible, couldn't find anybody in invest.
theres more such storys about now very huge companies, the owners been dead broke and or sold fuck all at first.

i have some book where its listed, will see if i can find it.
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2013, 10:06:20 PM »

There are no safe investments, except keeping your money on your savings account, and there you're loosing money year after year as the inflation rate is even higher than the interest rate.

We're doomed.

etfs are pretty safe
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2013, 10:56:22 PM »

rothschild private bank stocks went up 600% within few yaers, then came down a bit.



Rothschild International Bank use to have back up office in my building (Chatswood/Sydney)
from 1999-2005, 25 workstation + server room.They were good tenants.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2013, 11:06:43 PM »

etfs are pretty safe

I love the leveraged etf's ... if you don't have cash to short something, you can still get short exposure through double or triple short etf's. 
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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2013, 11:18:13 PM »

Buy starbucks stock ..
its up 50% this year  Shocked

FNMA is up 1100%,cheaper to get into and should keep going up

http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=FNMA

It's gambling sometimes u win sometimes u lose. I personally like to grab blue chips in a bare market and go long. Prob safest way not to lose your $$$$$ and not have to watch it like a hawk all day. Draw back is takes years sometimes before you double or triple your investment. Still better than a savings account just depends on your risk tolerance. Stay diversified Wink,write your plan on paper and stick to it,don't get emotional with the daily news stick to what you wrote down.
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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2013, 11:20:29 PM »

I love the leveraged etf's ... if you don't have cash to short something, you can still get short exposure through double or triple short etf's. 

What makes you pick a certain eft? What do you like to look for?
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« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2013, 11:32:01 PM »

What makes you pick a certain eft? What do you like to look for?

PRICE! lol
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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2013, 12:00:13 AM »

and you're looking at capital gains rates... not ordinary income rates for taxes.

Not if you're trading, i.e., buying and selling such that you hold the assets less than a year. And that's what you suggested you would be doing in a previous comment.

P.S. You still haven't indicated how you would earn a 25% annualized return on 1milUSD over the long-term, thereby making you the greatest investor to have ever lived.
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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2013, 01:43:10 AM »

Just sold the lambo, so I have some spare cash. How would a complete n00b get started? What books to read, what sites to frequent? And as I read above that it matters: No, I won't be spending every second of every day doing this. It basically needs to run itself once it has started up. ETFs then, any other options?
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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2013, 04:33:07 AM »

no, slums only.
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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2013, 05:21:57 AM »

buy two shares of Birkshire. The Oracle of Omaha won't let you down
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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2013, 05:55:24 AM »

is it rockey surgery or simple stuff to do with money you dont use anyway

Only insiders win in the stockmarket.

Middle class republicans always lose. Thank god they are always there to pay the bill, wether it is crashed real estate or worthless stocks.
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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2013, 06:32:35 AM »

Investing in the U.S. housing market, I hear it's pretty safe.   Grin
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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2013, 06:41:38 AM »

Investing in the U.S. housing market, I hear it's pretty safe.   Grin
Detroit has great bargains and deals !
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« Reply #44 on: November 15, 2013, 02:19:59 PM »

Detroit has great bargains and deals !


Detroit wins (with all problems) over Anabolichalos town.
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« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2013, 03:50:25 PM »

is it rockey surgery or simple stuff to do with money you dont use anyway

I'd consult with an experienced professional at a reputable firm - preferably a large, publicly traded firm that is financially stable, transparent, SIPC insured (up to $500k in assets per client if the firm becomes insolvent)  and also insured against things like employee theft. There are many very good reasons why you don't ever hear about anyone being able to operate a Ponzi scheme while working at a large firm.

They will need to get quite a bit of personal info from you in order to make responsible specific recommendations and a financial plan for you. Your goals, time frames, risk tolerance, liquidity needs now and in the future, etc will form the basis of your own suitable plan.

And if for some reason you decide not to consult a professional and try to do it on your own, I'd recommend you spend many months or longer reading books about investing from those who have walked the walk. I'd also suggest you follow the markets closely to get an idea about how things work.

Don't day trade - trying to trade with the big institutions and their gazillion dollar automoated HF trading systems using your PC and a Scottrade account is a surefire way to lose everthing - whereas a diversified portfolio of quality investments is an almost certain way to go from a few bucks to many over the long term.
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« Reply #46 on: November 17, 2013, 03:52:02 PM »

It's like casino, with the only exception that instead of putting money on red or black you're putting it on up or down.

I've def lost more with shares than I've won.

Proper risk management and patience takes much of the "gamble" out of investing.
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« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2013, 03:54:29 PM »

  Ask Walter. He is an economic genius. He is a business genius.
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« Reply #48 on: November 17, 2013, 04:04:57 PM »

There are no safe investments, except keeping your money on your savings account, and there you're loosing money year after year as the inflation rate is even higher than the interest rate.

We're doomed.

"Safe" can be a hard term to define. If you mean absolute 100% principal protection at all times with absolutely no fluctuations in account value, you are limited to what is FDIC insured up to $250k. And then of course there's the matter of whether or not the FDIC itself is "safe".  Grin

And of course then you are actually losing $, because those savings, checking, and money market accounts and CDs are paying less than inflation. The bank is the only one making $ on this.

Various bonds will pay more, and the issuer will guarantee the repayment of principal at maturity. But the actual value of any bonds will fluctuate at least a little or more depending on numerous factors. There's always at least some risk of defalt, particularly with high yield corporates, emerging markets sovereign debt, etc.

And not all stocks are as risky as others. GE, Walmart, and Coke are much safer (more stable, less volatile) than names like DQ, PXD, NFLX, TSLA, etc.

And better managed mutual funds are even safer, and tend to outperform the overall markets by a wide margin.
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« Reply #49 on: November 17, 2013, 04:09:19 PM »

I'm not familiar with the exact situation in the US, but in Europe it has become almost impossible to build up a fortune. The governments are trying their best to make it as hard for you as possible.

This is true. Here they're even wanting to limit the size you can GROW your retirement (tax advantaged) accounts like IRAs, 401ks, etc to. They actually want to take away incentive to invest too well. And of course there's always the threat of them raising taxes, decreasing contribution limits on tax-advantaged accounts, imposing more regulations, etc.
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