Insulin. Settle this crap....

[SupplementGuy]

Because it is easier to be a prick yourself than eat properly I guess... 

I don't understand why anyone would even mess with the stuff. If they do it's their own business but I think the risk by far outweigh the benefits.

SG 

[Beyond Genetics]

Because it is easier to be a prick yourself than eat properly I guess... 

I don't understand why anyone would even mess with the stuff. If they do it's their own business but I think the risk by far outweigh the benefits.

SG 

You've obviously never used it.

[mem]

true. I'd love to see tobacco totally banned.

F!!ck'n  A ! !  ME  T O O !!!

I saw lung cancer (first hand)
I saw emphysema (sp?)
I saw heart disease

Held diseased tissue in my hands (literally).
Tobacco (use) S C A R E S me . . .

**late father was a DR.
  exposed me to this.

[DIVISION]

Held diseased tissue in my hands (literally).

Michael, you've never told me this crucial fact.

You've "held" diseased tissue in your hands (literally)?

Please elaborate on how it felt and how it differed from regular healthy tissue.

Don't spare the details, man.

Get dirty!   



DIV

[mem]

Michael, you've never told me this crucial fact.

You've "held" diseased tissue in your hands (literally)?

Please elaborate on how it felt and how it differed from regular healthy tissue.

Don't spare the details, man.

Get dirty!   



DIV

Speaking on tired lungs . . .
I just got back from the largest ashtray in the world, Las Vegas.
My chest IS tight and polluted from 2nd hand smoke.
Will take a week to recover . . .

I spent a lot of (probably too much) time in the lab. Saw and held bodyparts
(with gloves of course) handled many human tissues. I then made slides
and viewed this *extracted tissue* under lens of microscope,
compared it to healty tissues.

V E R Y  dynamic and layered learning.  Thanks DAD!

The most profound was holding a diseased human heart. I took a
toothpick and scraped atherosclerotic plaques (cholesterol) out
of (some veins in) it. It felt like softened wax . . .
I got the point of *that exercise*.

The prospect of COPD - (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)
due to tobacco use IS something that I know first hand . . .

I sadly (perhaps like many) grew up exposed to second hand smoke
and subsequently had Asthma, bronchial problems and recurrent
bronchitis until the age age of 28 when smoking was not readily
permitted indoors and I no longer had roomates or co-workers
than INFECTED my lungs with their 2nd hand smoke.

The pulmonary system IS an area that I spent a lot of time studying.
due to my unfortunate lifetime predisposition to respiratory ailments.
I cannot stand exposure to tobacco - I suffer profoundly
with lasting effects . . .

Lung cancer that I saw (and held) resembled a fibrous disc of cartilage
surrounded by the dirty yellow mucosal/snotty mess (very gross)
with consistency of yogurt - which I (now) struggle to eat . . .
This cancerous disc was so tough, I could not cut with fresh scalpel
and it grew or invaded various surrounding (dissimilar) tissues,
very odd looking. Disrupting the lung architecture/stucture profoundly . . .
I understand it better.

The other (smoking related) malady - emphysema  F!!CKING  S C A R Y
this diseased tissue was really fibrotic - stiff, lacking  a n y  elasticity
critical to lung. The tissue was blackend and grey, rather than the
healthy pink that it should me. My father in law had COPD and my
skin would crawl (nearly got panic attacks) just sitting next to him,
hearing him struggle (with *tightend chest*) to take in a breath of air
It reminded me of athsma attacks as a child . . . BIG  c h i l l s . . .

I cannot believe that ANY serious (informed) athlete
would  c h o o s e   t o  smoke cigarettes . . .

[DIVISION]

Thanks for the description, Michael.

That was informative.........chil ling.......clinical.





DIV

[Overload]

My grandfather died of emphysema, he was 68. i will never smoke cigs because of all the memories. once he was deep in it he was on oxygen 24/7 and he had to stop and rest just walking across the living room. very sad.

i was 15 when he passed, i still remember the sounds he made trying to hack up the fluids in his lungs. very gross. he was in and out of ICU for 6 years before he died. they would drain the fluids from his lungs.

one of the last things he told me was if he ever found out i smoked he would break both of my knees. i think he was serious. that is why i hate cigs and in my life i cannot touch them.


 

[DIVISION]

My grandfather died of emphysema, he was 68. i will never smoke cigs because of all the memories. once he was deep in it he was on oxygen 24/7 and he had to stop and rest just walking across the living room. very sad.

i was 15 when he passed, i still remember the sounds he made trying to hack up the fluids in his lungs. very gross. he was in and out of ICU for 6 years before he died. they would drain the fluids from his lungs.

one of the last things he told me was if he ever found out i smoked he would break both of my knees. i think he was serious. that is why i hate cigs and in my life i cannot touch them.

It seems like you always had people looking out for you when you were a kid.

It always comes across in your posts.

You are fortunate.

Try to stay straight, like your loved ones who've passed on would have wanted you to.



DIV

[Overload]

It seems like you always had people looking out for you when you were a kid.

It always comes across in your posts.

You are fortunate.

Try to stay straight, like your loved ones who've passed on would have wanted you to.

DIV

You are right, i am very fortunate. i have had people helping me in many ways over the years. i have gone off the beaten path a few times but always came back. my parents were very guided people as well, i come from a very homely country family. my father is very successfull and i hope i can follow the same path.

 

[DIVISION]

You are right, i am very fortunate. i have had people helping me in many ways over the years. i have gone off the beaten path a few times but always came back. my parents were very guided people as well, i come from a very homely country family. my father is very successfull and i hope i can follow the same path.

 

I can tell.  There's a calmness and even temperment about you that comes through.  You don't get too high or too low.  You work though things as they come.

I see all this.




DIV

[Beyond Genetics]

I handled many human tissues.

Hey that's the same thing BayGBM said he did last week,,,  somebodies copying someone's story...

Oh wait, he said "Manly Human Tissues",,,  nevermind carry on.