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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2013, 07:14:05 AM »
Transcript for Exclusive: Al Qaeda in Kentucky Prompts Terror Fears






And now to the frightening headline. An abc news exclusive. Al qaeda operatives living right here in the united states.

Slipping through the cracks of a refugee program. Abc's brian ross is here with much more. Good morning.

Reporter: Good morning, robin. The fbi is now investigating whether dozens of al qaeda terrorists with american blood on their hands from iraq and afghanistan, have been able to move to the u. S.

, Claiming to be refugees. It was a flawed system of u. S.

Background checks that came to light in the case of al qaeda in kentucky. The city of bowling green, kentucky, seems far removed from concerns about terrorists. Until the fbi discovered that two al qaeda terrorists from iraq had been resettled here two years ago as refugees.

And were caught trying to obtain weapons to be used to kill more americans. In this video, being seen publicly for the first time this morning. I think they wanted to kill americans.

But I think they wanted the freedom that america provided to them. Reporter: Before coming to kentucky, the two were part of an al qaeda-connected group that carried out dozens of attacks on u. S.

Soldiers in iraq. He had them for lunch and dinner, meaning he had killed them. Reporter: Including one roadside bomb that killed four members of the pennsylvania national guard.

These individuals are innately evil. Reporter: The two terrorists, were able to get through what an abc news investigation discovered was a flawed u. S.

System of background checks. Even though both men had been detained by iraqi authorities on suspicion of being insurgents. If you're asking my opinion, I would say the system failed.

Otherwise, they wouldn't have been here in the first place. Reporter: A big breakthrough came from this warehouse. An fbi repository of some 100,000 bombs used against american targets around the world.

This is a box that contains the device. Reporter: Fbi technicians, poring over the remnants were able to match the fingerprints from a roadside bomb, recovered in iraq, with one in kentucky. You can see right here.

Reporter: What was it like when you made the match? The whole team was ecstatic. It was like finding a needle in a haystack.

Reporter: Now, the fbi says there could be dozens of others in the u. S. , Whose fingerprints may also be on the bomb parts stored here.

We're supporting dozens of counterterrorism investigations like that. Reporter: Dozens of cases? Correct.

Reporter: You're looking for prints of people who are in this country now? That's correct. Reporter: The discovery of al qaeda in kentucky led to a six-month suspension of the refugee program, which has allowed tens of thousands of legitimate iraqi refugees to come here.

Now, the immigration service says it has tightened security on background checks. And as to whether any other terrorists got through, officials say there are a lot of checkings going on. I'm sure there are.

But the fingerprints, and the way they were able to check like that. A huge operation. Going through 14,000 fingerprint matches for 1 bomb alone. SEE LESS

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2013, 07:18:07 AM »
333, you cannot hold Obama responsible for every single illegal immigrant.
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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2013, 07:20:58 AM »
I bet those good old boys in KY would love nothing more than to stumble into an al-quida club meeting at the local tavern while on their way home from the gun range.


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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2013, 07:22:25 AM »
333, you cannot hold Obama responsible for every single illegal immigrant.

These were not illegal immigrants  - THESE WERE AL QUEDA TERRORISTS CAPTURED BY IRAQ WE LET IN ON A REFUGEE PROGRAM


Read the damn story will you?

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2013, 07:30:52 AM »
Several dozen suspected terrorist bombmakers, including some believed to have targeted American troops, may have mistakenly been allowed to move to the United States as war refugees, according to FBI agents investigating the remnants of roadside bombs recovered from Iraq and Afghanistan.

The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky -- who later admitted in court that they'd attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq -- prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists' fingerprints.

"We are currently supporting dozens of current counter-terrorism investigations like that," FBI Agent Gregory Carl, director of the Terrorist Explosive Device Analytical Center (TEDAC), said in an ABC News interview to be broadcast tonight on ABC News' "World News with Diane Sawyer" and "Nightline".

"I wouldn't be surprised if there were many more than that," said House Committee on Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul. "And these are trained terrorists in the art of bombmaking that are inside the United States; and quite frankly, from a homeland security perspective, that really concerns me."

As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets. One Iraqi who had aided American troops was assassinated before his refugee application could be processed, because of the immigration delays, two U.S. officials said. In 2011, fewer than 10,000 Iraqis were resettled as refugees in the U.S., half the number from the year before, State Department statistics show.

Suspect in Kentucky Discovered to Have Insurgent Past

An intelligence tip initially led the FBI to Waad Ramadan Alwan, 32, in 2009. The Iraqi had claimed to be a refugee who faced persecution back home -- a story that shattered when the FBI found his fingerprints on a cordless phone base that U.S. soldiers dug up in a gravel pile south of Bayji, Iraq on Sept. 1, 2005. The phone base had been wired to unexploded bombs buried in a nearby road.

An ABC News investigation of the flawed U.S. refugee screening system, which was overhauled two years ago, showed that Alwan was mistakenly allowed into the U.S. and resettled in the leafy southern town of Bowling Green, Kentucky, a city of 60,000 which is home to Western Kentucky University and near the Army's Fort Knox and Fort Campbell. Alwan and another Iraqi refugee, Mohanad Shareef Hammadi, 26, were resettled in Bowling Green even though both had been detained during the war by Iraqi authorities, according to federal prosecutors.

Most of the more than 70,000 Iraqi war refugees in the U.S. are law-abiding immigrants eager to start a new life in America, state and federal officials say.

But the FBI discovered that Alwan had been arrested in Kirkuk, Iraq, in 2006 and confessed on video made of his interrogation then that he was an insurgent, according to the U.S. military and FBI, which obtained the tape a year into their Kentucky probe. In 2007, Alwan went through a border crossing to Syria and his fingerprints were entered into a biometric database maintained by U.S. military intelligence in Iraq, a Directorate of National Intelligence official said. Another U.S. official insisted that fingerprints of Iraqis were routinely collected and that Alwan's fingerprint file was not associated with the insurgency.


In 2009 Alwan applied as a refugee and was allowed to move to Bowling Green, where he quit a job he briefly held and moved into public housing on Gordon Ave., across the street from a school bus stop, and collected public assistance payouts, federal officials told ABC News.

"How do you have somebody that we now know was a known actor in terrorism overseas, how does that person get into the United States? How do they get into our community?" wondered Bowling Green Police Chief Doug Hawkins, whose department assisted the FBI.

Department of Homeland Security spokesperson Peter Boogaard said in a statement that the U.S. government "continually improves and expands its procedures for vetting immigrants, refugees and visa applicants, and today [the] vetting process considers a far broader range of information than it did in past years."

"Our procedures continue to check applicants' names and fingerprints against records of individuals known to be security threats, including the terrorist watchlist, or of law enforcement concern... These checks are vital to advancing the U.S. government's twin goal of protecting the world's most vulnerable persons while ensuring U.S. national security and public safety," the statement said.

Last year, a Department of Homeland Security senior intelligence official testified in a House hearing that Alwan and Hammadi's names and fingerprints were checked by the FBI, DHS and the Defense Department during the vetting process in 2009 and "came in clean."

After the FBI received the intelligence tip later that year, a sting operation in Kentucky was mounted to bait Alwan with a scheme hatched by an undercover operative recruited by the FBI, who offered Alwan the opportunity to ship heavy arms to al Qaeda in Iraq. The FBI wanted to know if Alwan was part of a local terror cell -- a fear that grew when he tapped a relative also living in Bowling Green, Hammadi, to help out.

The FBI secretly taped Alwan bragging to the informant that he'd built a dozen or more bombs in Iraq and used a sniper rifle to kill American soldiers in the Bayji area north of Baghdad.

"He said that he had them 'for lunch and dinner,'" recalled FBI Louisville Supervisory Special Agent Tim Beam, "meaning that he had killed them."

Alwan even sketched out IED designs, which the FBI provided to ABC News, that U.S. bomb experts had quickly determined clearly demonstrated his expertise.


'Needle in a Haystack' Fingerprint Match Found on Iraq Bomb Parts, White House Briefed

The case drew attention at the highest levels of government, FBI officials told ABC News, when TEDAC forensic investigators tasked with finding IEDs from Bayji dating back to 2005 pulled 170 case boxes and, incredibly, found several of Alwan's fingerprints on a Senao-brand remote cordless base station. A U.S. military Significant Action report on Sept. 1, 2005 said the remote-controlled trigger had been attached to "three homemade-explosive artillery rounds concealed by gravel with protruding wires."

"There were two fingerprints, developed on the top of the base station," Katie Suchma, an FBI supervisory physical scientist at TEDAC who helped locate the evidence, told ABC News at the center's IED examination lab. "The whole team was ecstatic because it was like finding a needle in a haystack."

"This was the type of bomb he's talking about when he drew those pictures," added FBI electronics expert Stephen Mallow.

Word was sent back to the FBI in Louisville.

"It was a surreal moment, it was a real game changer, so to speak, for the case," FBI agent Beam told ABC News. "Now you have solidified proof that he was involved in actual attacks against U.S. soldiers."

Worse, prosecutors later revealed at Hammadi's sentencing hearing that he and Alwan had been caught on an FBI surveillance tape talking about using a bomb to assassinate an Army captain they'd known in Bayji, who was now back home – and to possibly attack other homeland targets.

"Many things should take place and it should be huge," Hammadi told Alwan in an FBI-recorded conversation, which a prosecutor read at Hammadi's sentencing last year.

Then-FBI Director Robert Mueller briefed President Obama in early 2011 as agents and Louisville federal prosecutors weighed whether to arrest Alwan and Hammadi or continue arranging phony arms shipments to Iraq that the pair could assist with, consisting of machine guns, explosives and even Stinger missiles the FBI had secretly rendered inoperable and which never left the U.S.

But agents soon determined there were no other co-conspirators. An FBI SWAT team collared the terrorists in a truck south of Bowling Green in late May 2011, only weeks after al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden was killed in Pakistan and Obama had visited nearby Fort Campbell to thank the SEALs and Army Nightstalker pilots for their successful mission. The Kentucky al Qaeda case drew little attention as the nation celebrated Bin Laden's death.


Suspects Linked to Attack That Killed 4 US Soldiers

Pennsylvania National Guard soldiers who had served in Bayji in 2005 saw news reports about the two arrests, and Army Staff Sgt. Joshua Hedetniemi called the FBI to alert them to an Aug. 9, 2005, IED attack that killed four of their troopers in a humvee patrolling south of the town. The U.S. attorney's office in Louisville eventually placed the surviving soldiers in its victim notification system for the case, even though it couldn't be conclusively proven that Alwan and Hammadi had killed the Guardsmen.

The four Pennsylvania soldiers killed that day were Pfc. Nathaniel DeTample, 19, Spec. Gennaro Pellegrini, 31, Spec. Francis J. Straub Jr., 24, and Spec. John Kulick, 35.

"It was a somber moment for the platoon, we had a great deal of love and respect for those guys and it hit us pretty hard," Hedetniemi said in an interview in the Guard's armory near Philadelphia. "I think that these two individuals are innately evil to be able to act as a terrorist and attack and kill American soldiers, then have the balls to come over to the United States and try to do the same exact thing here in our homeland."

Confronted with all the evidence against them, Alwan and Hammadi agreed to plead guilty to supporting terrorism and admitted their al Qaeda-Iraq past. Alwan cooperated and received 40 years, while Hammadi received a life term which he is appealing. A hearing for Hammadi's appeal took place Tuesday in the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Ohio.

"We need to take this as a case study and draw the right lessons from it, and not just high-five over this," said retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael Barbero, who headed the military's Joint IED Defeat Organization until last May. "How did a person who we detained in Iraq -- linked to an IED attack, we had his fingerprints in our government system -- how did he walk into America in 2009?"

Barbero is credited with leveraging the Kentucky case to help the FBI get funding to create a new state of the art fingerprint lab focused solely on its IED repository in a huge warehouse outside Washington. The new FBI lab assists counterterrorism investigations of suspected bombmakers and IED emplacers and looks for latent prints on 100,000 IED remnants collected over the past decade by the military and stored in the vast TEDAC warehouse.

The only man in the Humvee to survive the 2005 IED bombing in Bayji, Daniel South, who is now an Army Black Hawk helicopter pilot in Texas, said he was stunned to learn al Qaeda-Iraq insurgents were living in Kentucky -- but he's glad they were finally brought to justice for attacking U.S. troops in Iraq.

"I kind of wish that we had smoked [Alwan] when it happened, but we didn't have that opportunity so I guess this is second best," South told ABC News.

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2013, 07:39:13 AM »
In 2009 Alwan applied as a refugee and was allowed to move to Bowling Green, where he quit a job he briefly held and moved into public housing on Gordon Ave., across the street from a school bus stop, and collected public assistance payouts, federal officials told ABC News.




Unfucking real 

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2013, 07:54:20 AM »

I feel sick



it's probably from taking pictures of yourself in a public bathroom instead of washing your hands  :D :D :D :D :D :D

Great answer. No wonder why this country is screwed, the left takes nothing seriously when it comes to protecting their own.

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2013, 07:56:42 AM »
Unless it involves blaming W, Palin, abortion, gays, etc - the liberal pos in this country don't give a damn about anything. 

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2013, 08:01:16 AM »
These were not illegal immigrants  - THESE WERE AL QUEDA TERRORISTS CAPTURED BY IRAQ WE LET IN ON A REFUGEE PROGRAM


Read the damn story will you?

Read the 2nd article you posted. They were discovered in 2009. One would assume they were there long before Obama was elected to president.
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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2013, 08:03:28 AM »
Read the 2nd article you posted. They were discovered in 2009. One would assume they were there long before Obama was elected to president.


Last year, a Department of Homeland Security senior intelligence official testified in a House hearing that Alwan and Hammadi's names and fingerprints were checked by the FBI, DHS and the Defense Department during the vetting process in 2009 and "came in clean."

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2013, 08:21:27 AM »
Great answer. No wonder why this country is screwed, the left takes nothing seriously when it comes to protecting their own.

this shit has been happening for years,it's not because of Obama. now just go back to watching fox news  :D

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2013, 08:27:58 AM »
In 2009 Alwan applied as a refugee and was allowed to move to Bowling Green, where he quit a job he briefly held and moved into public housing on Gordon Ave., across the street from a school bus stop, and collected public assistance payouts, federal officials told ABC News.

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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2013, 08:35:36 AM »

Last year, a Department of Homeland Security senior intelligence official testified in a House hearing that Alwan and Hammadi's names and fingerprints were checked by the FBI, DHS and the Defense Department during the vetting process in 2009 and "came in clean."

I can listen to you blame Obama on a lot, F&F, Obamacare, and you have a point.

This is grasping at straws. This shit has been going on long before he was ever on the scene.
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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2013, 08:59:56 AM »
I can listen to you blame Obama on a lot, F&F, Obamacare, and you have a point.

This is grasping at straws. This shit has been going on long before he was ever on the scene.

Nothing is ever his fault - EVER

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2013, 09:06:27 AM »
So we have a person who believes everything is Obama's fault complaining about people who believe nothing is Obama's fault.

LOL

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2013, 09:07:46 AM »
So we have a person who believes everything is Obama's fault complaining about people who believe nothing is Obama's fault.

LOL

W was accused of letter the 9/11 terrorists in for his 8 years remember? 

But o course the Dear Leader and Messiah YOU VOTED FOR is to be held to a much lesser standard - got it

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2013, 09:23:14 AM »
Nothing is ever his fault - EVER

Read my post. He's to blame for the disastrous roll-out of Obamacare, Benghazi and a lot of other sins.

You cannot keep blaming him for everything that's wrong in America and expect anyone to take note or believe you.

This shit has been going on when he was still rolling joints at Harvard.
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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2013, 09:25:09 AM »
W was accused of letter the 9/11 terrorists in for his 8 years remember? 

But o course the Dear Leader and Messiah YOU VOTED FOR is to be held to a much lesser standard - got it

and its people exactly like you that got us 4 more years of him.  thank you.


BTW, i didn't accuse BUSH of letting Terrorists in.   ::)

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2013, 09:27:10 AM »
W was accused of letter the 9/11 terrorists in for his 8 years remember? 

But o course the Dear Leader and Messiah YOU VOTED FOR is to be held to a much lesser standard - got it

And he was wrongly accused.

Fuck me, is EVERYTHING the president's fault?
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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2013, 09:29:28 AM »
And he was wrongly accused.

Fuck me, is EVERYTHING the president's fault?

I had the messiest shit I have taken in years last night and had to take a shower right after - OBAMA BUILT THAT!   ;D

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2013, 09:33:33 AM »
I had the messiest shit I have taken in years last night and had to take a shower right after - OBAMA BUILT THAT!   ;D

Well at least you admit you're full of shit  :P
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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2013, 09:34:49 AM »
Well at least you admit you're full of shit  :P

 :D

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Re: Obama Admn lets in possibly dozens of Al Queada terrorists into Kentuky
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2013, 01:49:57 PM »
and its people exactly like you that got us 4 more years of him.  thank you.


BTW, i didn't accuse BUSH of letting Terrorists in.   ::)

no one did.  and I can't for the life of me find one.  not even ONE person who believed the information given in Michael Moore's docudrama Fahrenheit 9/11.  its funny how it was the largest grossing documentary of all time and no one ever believed any of it.

weird.