Senate Goes Nuclear

[loco]

problem is your base is dying off,   the old white people 

What is "your base"?  Disagreeing with the Obama administration's policies does not automatically make me a Republican.

Ralph Nader is a liberal, yet he believes now that Obama is much worse than Bush.  Does that make Ralph Nader a Republican?

[blacken700]

What is "your base"?  Disagreeing with the Obama administration's policies does not automatically make me a Republican.

Ralph Nader is a liberal, yet he believes now that Obama is much worse than Bush.  Does that make Ralph Nader a Republican?

well maybe not you, but most on here that are complaining about this are repubs

[Soul Crusher]

well maybe not you, but most on here that are complaining about this are repubs

Hey commie

SENATOR BARACK OBAMA (D-ILLINOIS): The American people sent us here to be their voice. They understand that those voices can at times become loud and argumentative, but they also hope that we can disagree without being disagreeable. […]
    
What they don't expect is for one party - be it Republican or Democrat - to change the rules in the middle of the game so that they can make all the decisions while the other party is told to sit down and keep quiet.  […]

The American people want less partisanship in this town, but everyone in this chamber knows that the majority chooses to end the filibuster. If they choose to change the rules and put an end to Democratic debate, then the fighting and the bitterness and the gridlock will only get worse.

   Now I understand that Republicans are getting a lot of pressure to do this from factions outside the chamber, but we need to rise above the "ends justify the means" mentality because we're here to answer to the people - all of the people - not just the ones that are wearing our particular party label. […]

If the right of free and open debate is taken away from the minority party, and the millions of Americans who asked us to be their voice, I fear that the already partisan atmosphere in Washington will be poisoned to the point where no one will be able to agree on anything. That doesn't serve anyone's best interests, and it certainly isn't what the patriots who founded this democracy had in mind. We owe the people who sent us here more than that - we owe them much more.

That was Obama in 2005 when his Party was in the minority. He even confirmed this in an email message to the American Thinker's Randall Hoven on June 29 of that year:

From: senator_obama@obama.senate.gov[mailto:senator_obama@obama.senate.gov]
   Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:02 AM
   To: Hoven, Randall M
   Subject: Message from Senator Barack Obama

   Dear Randall:

   Thank you for your letter. I appreciate hearing from you.

   I recognize that the filibuster can be used for unfortunate purposes. However, I am also aware that the Founding Fathers established the filibuster as a means of protecting the minority from the tyranny of the majority -- and that protection, with some changes, has been in place for over 200 years.


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/11/28/obama-fought-against-eliminating-filibuster-2005#ixzz2lJV8bTr8

[blacken700]

168 presidential nominees have been filibustered under all presidents,82 under Obama. something had to be done

[Soul Crusher]

[blacken700]

the times are a changin

[Soul Crusher]

the times are a changin

Typical communist tyrant mentality

[blacken700]

again dummy  168 presidential nominees have been filibustered under all presidents,82 under Obama. something had to be done

[Soul Crusher]

again dummy  168 presidential nominees have been filibustered under all presidents,82 under Obama. something had to be done

No - maybe Obama needs to stop nominating communists and responding to requests on all the scandals and corruption and treason in his Admn

[Dos Equis]

He's such a friggin liar.  An embarrassment to the Senate. 

[blacken700]

No - maybe Obama needs to stop nominating communists and responding to requests on all the scandals and corruption and treason in his Admn

what are you going to do after 8 years of Obama ,get a girlfriend,go out and see the world ,or stay in for 8 years of Clinton 

[JOHN MATRIX]

again dummy  168 presidential nominees have been filibustered under all presidents,82 under Obama. something had to be done

Something will be done. Soon. Hug your obama doll extra tight when you go to sleep tonight...people all over the world are getting sick of the Left

[blacken700]

Something will be done. Soon. Hug your obama doll extra tight when you go to sleep tonight...people all over the sorld are gettinv sick of the Left

hahahaha you guys have been crying a river since 2008,2012 the landslide was coming,and now the people are sick of the left 

[2Thick]

I doubt if the Dems will ever have to worry about losing another election. Between millions and millions of dead people and illegals voting for them, hood rats hitting the polls 10 times a day in exchange for malt liquor and Newports, NBPP thugs scaring Republicans away from the polls, stupid and guilt-ridden white liberals voting Dem no matter what, and Soros' company rigging the voting machines, it's unlikely many of them will ever get voted out.

[Soul Crusher]

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/biden-in-2005-i-pray-god-dems-dont-pursue-naked-power-grab-nuclear-option-in-majority



Hypocrisy

[blacken700]

168 presidential nominees have been filibustered under all presidents,82 under Obama. something had to be done
 actions have consequences,when you block everyone.you get what you deserve

[doison]

168 presidential nominees have been filibustered under all presidents,82 under Obama. something had to be done
 actions have consequences,when you block everyone.you get what you deserve

Are you implying that they're doing something illegal, or that they're doing something you don't like. 

Because if you're saying you don't like the statistics so the dems clearly have to change the rules, then I don't think you have a very effective argument.

[The Showstoppa]

168 presidential nominees have been filibustered under all presidents,82 under Obama. something had to be done

You gonna stick with that when Repubs take back the senate?

[blacken700]

Norm Ornstein: Republicans Forced Reid's Hand On The Nuclear Option

SAHIL KAPUR – NOVEMBER 21, 2013, 1:02 PM EST

Norm Ornstein, a congressional scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, told TPM that Republicans forced Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) to "go nuclear" after his Democratic majority took the historic step Thursday and ended the filibuster for executive nominees and non-Supreme Court judicial nominees.

"For whatever reason, the Republicans decided to go nuclear first, with this utterly unnecessary violation of their own agreement and open decision to block the president from filling vacancies for his entire term, no matter how well qualified the nominees," Ornstein told TPM in an email. "It was a set of actions begging for a return nuclear response."

He also speculated that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) secretly wanted Democrats to go nuclear so he could use the same tactic to end the filibuster entirely if and when Republicans take the majority.

"McConnell's threat, it seems to me, makes clear the strategy: let Dems take the first step, and we will then bear no blame when we entirely blow up the Senate's rules after we take all the reins of power," he said. "That other Republicans like Corker, McCain, Alexander, Murkowski and so on, went along, shows how much the radicals and anti-institutionalists now dominate the Republican Party. Which is sad indeed."

[Soul Crusher]

Communists and tyrants always have an excuse for their crimes

[The Showstoppa]

Communists and tyrants always have an excuse for their crimes

Listening to these worthless sacks of shit, including Odrama, from 05 is off the charts disgusting. 

[JOHN MATRIX]

Norm Ornstein: Republicans Forced Reid's Hand On The Nuclear Option

SAHIL KAPUR – NOVEMBER 21, 2013, 1:02 PM EST

Norm Ornstein, a congressional scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, told TPM that Republicans forced Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) to "go nuclear" after his Democratic majority took the historic step Thursday and ended the filibuster for executive nominees and non-Supreme Court judicial nominees.

"For whatever reason, the Republicans decided to go nuclear first, with this utterly unnecessary violation of their own agreement and open decision to block the president from filling vacancies for his entire term, no matter how well qualified the nominees," Ornstein told TPM in an email. "It was a set of actions begging for a return nuclear response."

He also speculated that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) secretly wanted Democrats to go nuclear so he could use the same tactic to end the filibuster entirely if and when Republicans take the majority.

"McConnell's threat, it seems to me, makes clear the strategy: let Dems take the first step, and we will then bear no blame when we entirely blow up the Senate's rules after we take all the reins of power," he said. "That other Republicans like Corker, McCain, Alexander, Murkowski and so on, went along, shows how much the radicals and anti-institutionalists now dominate the Republican Party. Which is sad indeed."

'Radicals'...lol oh brother. Funny how's its always the conservatives-you know, the type that founded this country and created the friggin government structure in the first place- are the 'radicals'.

The Leftists are the real radicals and extremists.

"Wahhhhhh we are trying real hard to force liberal socialist ideology and policy on the united states and those darn conservative 'radicals' are getting in our way!!! They want to protect and preserve the founding ideals of this nation...waaaah such 'extremists'!!!" Hahahahahha oh brother.

[RRKore]

Harry Reid in 2005.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/17/AR2005051701425.html

Harry gonna Harry.

In 05' it was bad. Now in 13' rolls are reversed and dirt harry wants to change the rules.

Makes me sick.

The rules sucked because they were being unfairly exploited.  So they were changed.  They left the rules unchanged for the Supreme Court so even if I were a conservative, it wouldn't seem so bad to me. 

Some of you guys crack me up.  Tyranny?  Buh-buh-bullshit.  Our system of government is not static; One of the best things about it is that the system can be changed some by popular demand. 

And, c'mon, this happens in every sport, doesn't it?  (I wish I could cite some NFL examples but I'm not much of a fan.)

Sorry if I'm not willing to join the crowd that is doing the equivalent of railing against that newfangled 24-second clock.  Just doesn't make sense to me.

[RRKore]

168 presidential nominees have been filibustered under all presidents,82 under Obama. something had to be done

This. 

[RRKore]

These liberal communists and traitors and thugs know that in 2014 that are going to get wiped out ala 2010

Aren't you the "Landslide Coming" guy?  If so, you might want to hold off on the predictions...