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Funny that all the black bodybuilders of today aspire to have a statue of this man! Haha.

I have read Eugene Sandow's book "Strength and how to Obtain it" recently, I was delighted when I read a section of the book which was highly racist. Sandow talks about his first hour in the USA and his encounter with a black bell boy at a Hotel. It ended with Sandow holding the black boy dangling over the balcony at the 16th floor.

Note everytime it says guy in the text is where getbig changes the N-word automatically to guy, so Sandow used the N-word in one of his books haha.

Source: https://archive.org/stream/strengthandhowt00sandgoog/strengthandhowt00sandgoog_djvu.txt

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CHAPTER VI r.
MY FIRST HOUR IN AMERICA.

First experiences are occasionally curious. You shall hear
mine.

Although the day we reached New York was the hottest
that had ever been known in that great country of w^onder-
ful records, no heat, however extreme, could detract from
the glories of New York Harbour, certainly the finest
harbour I have ever seen. Numerous people, including, of
course, the ubiquitous newspaper men, came on board to
welcome me, bands were playing, and there was a gay and
busy time generally.

Having landed, I entered a cab. Everyone, I suppose,
has a vivid recollection of his first cab in America. The
independence of the American cab-driver is sublime. It is
something too great for words. You can only draw a long
breath — and admire it. The particular journey which I was
undertaking would have been in England something con-
siderably less than a shilling fare. Hoping to be generous
I proffered the driver an equivalent in English money to two
shillings. To my surprise he said, **I guess. Colonel, that's
for myself ; your fare is four dollars," just eight times as
much as I had offered. Of course, I could not argue with
the man. He knew better than I, and there was nothing
for it but to pay promptly what he demanded. Moreover,
in America, it must be remembered, they charge, not for the
drive, but for the cab.

Mr. Abbey, who met me on the boat, accompanied in e to
the hotel at which I was to stay. At the office his attention
was called away for a moment, and I was left to the tender



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mercies of the bell boy, a ni gger, who was asked to show me
the rooms.

" Come along, sir," the boy drawled. And along I went,
making my first acquaintance with an American elevator, in
which we were shot up heavenwards.

" How high are we ? " I asked, as we got out.

" Oh, this is the sixteenth floor," replied the boy, in an off-
hand manner, " you can see if you look down." I did look
down. By Jove, the depth down that staircase was tremen-
\ dous.
'\ Having selected my apartments, the boy coolly stood
beside me in my own room rolling a cigarette and lighting
it in my presence. This action seemed a little impudent,
■ but it was nothing to that which was to come. Remarking
that I desired to wash, I also asked the boy if he would
clean my boots.

" Clean your boots," he exclaimed, in blank astonishment,
" we don't do that in America, we (speaking of course for
himself and the n iggers like him) don*t clean boots here."

" Who then," I asked, " does clean them ? "

" Oh, you must go down stairs for that." And with these
words he reclined on my sofa, rolled another cigarette, and
calmly smiled at me.

This was really too much for white flesh and blood to bear.
I said to him sharply, '* Look here, young man. I may be a
stranger in this country and ignorant of some of its ways,
but 1 know enough of Americans to be quite sure that it is
not right for you to conduct yourself in this way. If you
don't promptly clear oft' I will report you ? "

But the boy was not easily to be moved. Instead of
taking himself off he squared up and wanted to fight me.
So I just took hold of that boy, and, testing his jacket and
trousers to be sure that they would bear the strain, I swung
him over the sixteenth floor staircase. And there for a few
moments I held him, just to give him a view of the depth,
which was so tremendous.

My word, didn't that boy shout and scream. I assured
him that he was quit€ safe in my hand so long as it was
closed, but if he ever attempted his impertinences again I
would bring him to the same spot and open it. And



AND HOW TO OBTAIN IT. 125

I reminded him that a drop through sixteen floors would not
be good even for n igger boys who smoked cigarettes in
private rooms and affected to be indignant at the suggestion
that they should clean a visitor's boots.

The boy's cries drew a small crowd, including my guest
and pianist, Martinus Sieveking, and the manager of the
hotel. The manager fully agreed with the warning I gave
the boy, and was profuse in his apologies, saying that such
conduct from a bell boy was unprecedented.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 04:13:44 PM »
It says something about you and your life if you were "delighted" to read that when Sandow first got here he was "racist". It's been said that when many Irishfolk immigrated to the US, the first word they learned was "n ###r"

Let's remember this for posterity, shall we?

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2013, 04:15:20 PM »
It says something about you and your life if you were "delighted" to read that when Sandow first got here he was "racist". It's been said that when many Irishfolk immigrated to the US, the first word they learned was "n ###r"

Let's remember this for posterity, shall we?


Sandow would be turning in his grave if he could see a figure of himself being used at the "Olympia". Given his views on bodybuilding for HEALTH and his negative views on other races.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2013, 04:15:25 PM »
I'll never be able to respect naked men with leaves over their genitals ever again.
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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2013, 04:18:31 PM »
Sandow would be turning in his grave if he could see a figure of himself being used at the "Olympia". Given his views on bodybuilding for HEALTH and his negative views on other races.
And you know this how? Did he always have such a negative view? And let's not forget, he apparently ran away with another man, leaving his wife.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2013, 04:20:37 PM »
And you know this how? Did he always have such a negative view? And let's not forget, he apparently ran away with another man, leaving his wife.
First of all I read the whole book so I understand that Sandow intended to promote bodybuilding as a healthy lifestyle choice and wanted to restore the "Greek Ideals" about body image which are vastly different from the freakish drugged physiques of today.

Well if he was bisexual then my respect for gays has increased marginally.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2013, 04:27:37 PM »
Sandow let that guy off easy. Here's what happens nowadays when you don't spit shine a man's stacy adams



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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2013, 04:36:31 PM »
He asked him he didn't demand him.The kid got handled because he sat down on his couch and started smoking. What would a get bigger do if a bellhop would do that today? He did ask him to stop before he hung him out the window. Didn't the boy threaten him in his own apartment.









































































































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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2013, 04:40:02 PM »
why, do you prefer flowers?

Just thongs from here on out.
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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2013, 04:43:56 PM »
Just thongs from here on out.

So if an athlete in a glittery thong did this, you'd give up on the "sport"? That's like a getbigger trying to go a week without doing the 5 knuckle shuffle.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2013, 04:46:44 PM »
So if an athlete in a glittery thong did this, you'd give up on the "sport"? That's like a getbigger trying to go a week without doing the 5 knuckle shuffle.

Depends on the thong.
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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2013, 04:59:51 PM »
Funny that all the black bodybuilders of today aspire to have a statue of this man! Haha.

I have read Eugene Sandow's book "Strength and how to Obtain it" recently, I was delighted when I read a section of the book which was highly racist. Sandow talks about his first hour in the USA and his encounter with a black bell boy at a Hotel. It ended with Sandow holding the black boy dangling over the balcony at the 16th floor.

Note everytime it says guy in the text is where getbig changes the N-word automatically to guy, so Sandow used the N-word in one of his books haha.

Source: https://archive.org/stream/strengthandhowt00sandgoog/strengthandhowt00sandgoog_djvu.txt

quote

CHAPTER VI r.
MY FIRST HOUR IN AMERICA.

First experiences are occasionally curious. You shall hear
mine.

Although the day we reached New York was the hottest
that had ever been known in that great country of w^onder-
ful records, no heat, however extreme, could detract from
the glories of New York Harbour, certainly the finest
harbour I have ever seen. Numerous people, including, of
course, the ubiquitous newspaper men, came on board to
welcome me, bands were playing, and there was a gay and
busy time generally.

Having landed, I entered a cab. Everyone, I suppose,
has a vivid recollection of his first cab in America. The
independence of the American cab-driver is sublime. It is
something too great for words. You can only draw a long
breath — and admire it. The particular journey which I was
undertaking would have been in England something con-
siderably less than a shilling fare. Hoping to be generous
I proffered the driver an equivalent in English money to two
shillings. To my surprise he said, **I guess. Colonel, that's
for myself ; your fare is four dollars," just eight times as
much as I had offered. Of course, I could not argue with
the man. He knew better than I, and there was nothing
for it but to pay promptly what he demanded. Moreover,
in America, it must be remembered, they charge, not for the
drive, but for the cab.

Mr. Abbey, who met me on the boat, accompanied in e to
the hotel at which I was to stay. At the office his attention
was called away for a moment, and I was left to the tender



124 STRENGTH :

mercies of the bell boy, a ni gger, who was asked to show me
the rooms.

" Come along, sir," the boy drawled. And along I went,
making my first acquaintance with an American elevator, in
which we were shot up heavenwards.

" How high are we ? " I asked, as we got out.

" Oh, this is the sixteenth floor," replied the boy, in an off-
hand manner, " you can see if you look down." I did look
down. By Jove, the depth down that staircase was tremen-
\ dous.
'\ Having selected my apartments, the boy coolly stood
beside me in my own room rolling a cigarette and lighting
it in my presence. This action seemed a little impudent,
■ but it was nothing to that which was to come. Remarking
that I desired to wash, I also asked the boy if he would
clean my boots.

" Clean your boots," he exclaimed, in blank astonishment,
" we don't do that in America, we (speaking of course for
himself and the n iggers like him) don*t clean boots here."

" Who then," I asked, " does clean them ? "

" Oh, you must go down stairs for that." And with these
words he reclined on my sofa, rolled another cigarette, and
calmly smiled at me.

This was really too much for white flesh and blood to bear.
I said to him sharply, '* Look here, young man. I may be a
stranger in this country and ignorant of some of its ways,
but 1 know enough of Americans to be quite sure that it is
not right for you to conduct yourself in this way. If you
don't promptly clear oft' I will report you ? "

But the boy was not easily to be moved. Instead of
taking himself off he squared up and wanted to fight me.
So I just took hold of that boy, and, testing his jacket and
trousers to be sure that they would bear the strain, I swung
him over the sixteenth floor staircase. And there for a few
moments I held him, just to give him a view of the depth,
which was so tremendous.

My word, didn't that boy shout and scream. I assured
him that he was quit€ safe in my hand so long as it was
closed, but if he ever attempted his impertinences again I
would bring him to the same spot and open it. And



AND HOW TO OBTAIN IT. 125

I reminded him that a drop through sixteen floors would not
be good even for n igger boys who smoked cigarettes in
private rooms and affected to be indignant at the suggestion
that they should clean a visitor's boots.

The boy's cries drew a small crowd, including my guest
and pianist, Martinus Sieveking, and the manager of the
hotel. The manager fully agreed with the warning I gave
the boy, and was profuse in his apologies, saying that such
conduct from a bell boy was unprecedented.

/quote


Gene sounded like a reasonable and down-to-earth guy.
I'm sure that no poetic license was used in the above story, whatsoever.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2013, 05:06:14 PM »
What do you want to bet Ole Eugene spent a little under the leaf time with that colored youngster.
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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2013, 05:27:45 PM »
And he was dead fuckin right too

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2013, 06:03:49 PM »
 Eugene sounds about as honest as your average IFBB pro.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2013, 06:08:56 PM »
So I just took hold of that boy, and, testing his jacket and
trousers to be sure that they would bear the strain,


This my favorite part.  How do you go about testing clothes to determine if you can hang someone off a balcony.  During this "inspection" I would have punched him in the mouth.
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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2013, 06:14:41 PM »
It says something about you and your life if you were "delighted" to read that when Sandow first got here he was "racist". It's been said that when many Irishfolk immigrated to the US, the first word they learned was "n ###r"

Let's remember this for posterity, shall we?

This coming from a sell out who frequents a cracker bodybuilding website. If you're so into being black go join a gang and leave us alone.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2013, 06:36:54 PM »
I though this website was Jewish?

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2013, 06:38:26 PM »
I though this website was Jewish?

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2013, 06:54:13 PM »
This coming from a sell out who frequents a cracker bodybuilding website. If you're so into being black go join a gang and leave us alone.

Can someone be so into being black while also being a sellout?  Is that possible?
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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2013, 07:16:50 PM »
Cant we all just gets along ???

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2013, 01:55:34 AM »
Salute to the Prussian gentlemen Friedrich W.Muller (Sandow)  :D

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2013, 02:04:10 AM »
And you know this how? Did he always have such a negative view? And let's not forget, he apparently ran away with another man, leaving his wife.
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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2013, 02:22:14 AM »
Can someone be so into being black while also being a sellout?  Is that possible?
I was about to ask the same thing, but such mind bending logic was too far fetched for even me.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
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