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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2015, 10:51:44 AM »
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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2015, 10:52:23 AM »
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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2015, 10:54:10 AM »
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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2015, 10:56:15 AM »
Funny that all the black bodybuilders of today aspire to have a statue of this man! Haha.

I have read Eugene Sandow's book "Strength and how to Obtain it" recently, I was delighted when I read a section of the book which was highly racist. Sandow talks about his first hour in the USA and his encounter with a black bell boy at a Hotel. It ended with Sandow holding the black boy dangling over the balcony at the 16th floor.

Note everytime it says guy in the text is where getbig changes the N-word automatically to guy, so Sandow used the N-word in one of his books haha.

Source: https://archive.org/stream/strengthandhowt00sandgoog/strengthandhowt00sandgoog_djvu.txt

quote

CHAPTER VI r.
MY FIRST HOUR IN AMERICA.

First experiences are occasionally curious. You shall hear
mine.

Although the day we reached New York was the hottest
that had ever been known in that great country of w^onder-
ful records, no heat, however extreme, could detract from
the glories of New York Harbour, certainly the finest
harbour I have ever seen. Numerous people, including, of
course, the ubiquitous newspaper men, came on board to
welcome me, bands were playing, and there was a gay and
busy time generally.

Having landed, I entered a cab. Everyone, I suppose,
has a vivid recollection of his first cab in America. The
independence of the American cab-driver is sublime. It is
something too great for words. You can only draw a long
breath — and admire it. The particular journey which I was
undertaking would have been in England something con-
siderably less than a shilling fare. Hoping to be generous
I proffered the driver an equivalent in English money to two
shillings. To my surprise he said, **I guess. Colonel, that's
for myself ; your fare is four dollars," just eight times as
much as I had offered. Of course, I could not argue with
the man. He knew better than I, and there was nothing
for it but to pay promptly what he demanded. Moreover,
in America, it must be remembered, they charge, not for the
drive, but for the cab.

Mr. Abbey, who met me on the boat, accompanied in e to
the hotel at which I was to stay. At the office his attention
was called away for a moment, and I was left to the tender



124 STRENGTH :

mercies of the bell boy, a ni gger, who was asked to show me
the rooms.

" Come along, sir," the boy drawled. And along I went,
making my first acquaintance with an American elevator, in
which we were shot up heavenwards.

" How high are we ? " I asked, as we got out.

" Oh, this is the sixteenth floor," replied the boy, in an off-
hand manner, " you can see if you look down." I did look
down. By Jove, the depth down that staircase was tremen-
\ dous.
'\ Having selected my apartments, the boy coolly stood
beside me in my own room rolling a cigarette and lighting
it in my presence. This action seemed a little impudent,
■ but it was nothing to that which was to come. Remarking
that I desired to wash, I also asked the boy if he would
clean my boots.

" Clean your boots," he exclaimed, in blank astonishment,
" we don't do that in America, we (speaking of course for
himself and the n iggers like him) don*t clean boots here."

" Who then," I asked, " does clean them ? "

" Oh, you must go down stairs for that." And with these
words he reclined on my sofa, rolled another cigarette, and
calmly smiled at me.

This was really too much for white flesh and blood to bear.
I said to him sharply, '* Look here, young man. I may be a
stranger in this country and ignorant of some of its ways,
but 1 know enough of Americans to be quite sure that it is
not right for you to conduct yourself in this way. If you
don't promptly clear oft' I will report you ? "

But the boy was not easily to be moved. Instead of
taking himself off he squared up and wanted to fight me.
So I just took hold of that boy, and, testing his jacket and
trousers to be sure that they would bear the strain, I swung
him over the sixteenth floor staircase. And there for a few
moments I held him, just to give him a view of the depth,
which was so tremendous.

My word, didn't that boy shout and scream. I assured
him that he was quit€ safe in my hand so long as it was
closed, but if he ever attempted his impertinences again I
would bring him to the same spot and open it. And



AND HOW TO OBTAIN IT. 125

I reminded him that a drop through sixteen floors would not
be good even for n igger boys who smoked cigarettes in
private rooms and affected to be indignant at the suggestion
that they should clean a visitor's boots.

The boy's cries drew a small crowd, including my guest
and pianist, Martinus Sieveking, and the manager of the
hotel. The manager fully agreed with the warning I gave
the boy, and was profuse in his apologies, saying that such
conduct from a bell boy was unprecedented.

/quote

Delighted to hear this ol chap!

Now good ol Eugene stepped up a few points on the list!

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2015, 11:46:35 AM »
Good man

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2015, 11:55:39 AM »
Damnit.

A unfamiliar black eye to what is an otheriwse upstanding and ethical organization.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2015, 11:56:22 AM »
People were more open about racism back then.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2015, 11:59:17 AM »
I'll never be able to respect naked men with leaves over their genitals ever again.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2015, 12:10:30 PM »
People were more open about racism back then.
Nobody really talks about racism anymore, wonder whatever happened to it?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2015, 12:12:12 PM »
Nobody really talks about racism anymore, wonder whatever happened to it?

There's no shortage of racist talk here, LOL!

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2015, 12:49:26 PM »
Nobody really talks about racism anymore, wonder whatever happened to it?

it's weird, every race I watch, the black guy always wins!!!

come on, if you can't laugh at that then this world is really completely fukked

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2015, 02:15:49 PM »
it's weird, every race I watch, the black guy always wins!!!

come on, it you can't laugh at that then this world is really completely fukked

We can all laugh at it but the world is still fooked.  ;D

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2015, 04:48:29 PM »
I wonder if there will be a campaign to get rid of his name on the trophy like that of Lord Jeffery Amherst at Amherst college?

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2015, 11:30:40 PM »
a white man is not taking any crap from a black man in his era

foreign or not it aint happpening unless your jack johnson or sam langford

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2015, 11:52:23 PM »
Funny that all the black bodybuilders of today aspire to have a statue of this man! Haha.

I have read Eugene Sandow's book "Strength and how to Obtain it" recently, I was delighted when I read a section of the book which was highly racist. Sandow talks about his first hour in the USA and his encounter with a black bell boy at a Hotel. It ended with Sandow holding the black boy dangling over the balcony at the 16th floor.

Note everytime it says guy in the text is where getbig changes the N-word automatically to guy, so Sandow used the N-word in one of his books haha.

Source: https://archive.org/stream/strengthandhowt00sandgoog/strengthandhowt00sandgoog_djvu.txt

quote

CHAPTER VI r.
MY FIRST HOUR IN AMERICA.

First experiences are occasionally curious. You shall hear
mine.

Although the day we reached New York was the hottest
that had ever been known in that great country of w^onder-
ful records, no heat, however extreme, could detract from
the glories of New York Harbour, certainly the finest
harbour I have ever seen. Numerous people, including, of
course, the ubiquitous newspaper men, came on board to
welcome me, bands were playing, and there was a gay and
busy time generally.

Having landed, I entered a cab. Everyone, I suppose,
has a vivid recollection of his first cab in America. The
independence of the American cab-driver is sublime. It is
something too great for words. You can only draw a long
breath — and admire it. The particular journey which I was
undertaking would have been in England something con-
siderably less than a shilling fare. Hoping to be generous
I proffered the driver an equivalent in English money to two
shillings. To my surprise he said, **I guess. Colonel, that's
for myself ; your fare is four dollars," just eight times as
much as I had offered. Of course, I could not argue with
the man. He knew better than I, and there was nothing
for it but to pay promptly what he demanded. Moreover,
in America, it must be remembered, they charge, not for the
drive, but for the cab.

Mr. Abbey, who met me on the boat, accompanied in e to
the hotel at which I was to stay. At the office his attention
was called away for a moment, and I was left to the tender



124 STRENGTH :

mercies of the bell boy, a ni gger, who was asked to show me
the rooms.

" Come along, sir," the boy drawled. And along I went,
making my first acquaintance with an American elevator, in
which we were shot up heavenwards.

" How high are we ? " I asked, as we got out.

" Oh, this is the sixteenth floor," replied the boy, in an off-
hand manner, " you can see if you look down." I did look
down. By Jove, the depth down that staircase was tremen-
\ dous.
'\ Having selected my apartments, the boy coolly stood
beside me in my own room rolling a cigarette and lighting
it in my presence. This action seemed a little impudent,
■ but it was nothing to that which was to come. Remarking
that I desired to wash, I also asked the boy if he would
clean my boots.

" Clean your boots," he exclaimed, in blank astonishment,
" we don't do that in America, we (speaking of course for
himself and the n iggers like him) don*t clean boots here."

" Who then," I asked, " does clean them ? "

" Oh, you must go down stairs for that." And with these
words he reclined on my sofa, rolled another cigarette, and
calmly smiled at me.

This was really too much for white flesh and blood to bear.
I said to him sharply, '* Look here, young man. I may be a
stranger in this country and ignorant of some of its ways,
but 1 know enough of Americans to be quite sure that it is
not right for you to conduct yourself in this way. If you
don't promptly clear oft' I will report you ? "

But the boy was not easily to be moved. Instead of
taking himself off he squared up and wanted to fight me.
So I just took hold of that boy, and, testing his jacket and
trousers to be sure that they would bear the strain, I swung
him over the sixteenth floor staircase. And there for a few
moments I held him, just to give him a view of the depth,
which was so tremendous.

My word, didn't that boy shout and scream. I assured
him that he was quit€ safe in my hand so long as it was
closed, but if he ever attempted his impertinences again I
would bring him to the same spot and open it. And



AND HOW TO OBTAIN IT. 125

I reminded him that a drop through sixteen floors would not
be good even for n igger boys who smoked cigarettes in
private rooms and affected to be indignant at the suggestion
that they should clean a visitor's boots.

The boy's cries drew a small crowd, including my guest
and pianist, Martinus Sieveking, and the manager of the
hotel. The manager fully agreed with the warning I gave
the boy, and was profuse in his apologies, saying that such
conduct from a bell boy was unprecedented.

/quote

Why was Sandow a racist? Because he used the word "nigg er"? I think he would have done the same thing if the boy was White or any other race. The kid acted like a punk. Rolling a cig and smoking it, reclining on his sofa, squaring off like he wanted to fight. He deserved what he got nig or not.

I actually doubt the veracity of the story and think there's some hyperbole in there. Blacks during that period were generally very polite respectful and had good manners. In fact, society during that period were generally more polite, civil and respectful as a whole. The idea that the bell boy, of any race, would act like that and be able to last very long in that job seems doubtful.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2015, 12:01:30 AM »
Sandow let that guy off easy. Here's what happens nowadays when you don't spit shine a man's stacy adams




Are you kidding? You ask a Black guy to shine your boots or even to move a bit so you can get through the door way it would be you with the bloody nose and a mob of Hebrews closing in on you.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2015, 02:18:38 AM »
Are you kidding? You ask a Black guy to shine your boots or even to move a bit so you can get through the door way it would be you with the bloody nose and a mob of Hebrews closing in on you.

Tom Slick says you're wrong


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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2015, 03:09:48 AM »
Interesting.  I would have just taken his boots downstairs to be cleaned and sent them back with a bill.  Prob would have gotten a handsome tip.  However, I seriously doubt the bellhop would sit on the couch, smoke, and smart off given the time period. 
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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2015, 04:29:06 AM »
Tom Slick says you're wrong



There's always exceptions. Most people seem to cower in fear when a group of loud and rowdy Hebrews enter the room.

I have a feeling that if you look into the back ground of this brave Cracker pounding the Hebrew, who astonishingly, seems to be by himself as they seem to always run in packs, you will find he's probably been a bad ass all his life.

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Re: Eugene Sandow almost killed a black boy over refusing to clean his boots
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2015, 04:57:39 AM »
Interesting.  I would have just taken his boots downstairs to be cleaned and sent them back with a bill.  Prob would have gotten a handsome tip.  However, I seriously doubt the bellhop would sit on the couch, smoke, and smart off given the time period. 

I have feeling that there was a lot of exaggerations & lies in Sandow's story.

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So I just took hold of that boy, and, testing his jacket and
trousers to be sure that they would bear the strain,


This my favorite part.  How do you go about testing clothes to determine if you can hang someone off a balcony.  During this "inspection" I would have punched him in the mouth.

Ha - Quite Believable that part is  ::)
All the while the bell boy was compliant with what Eugene was Doing.

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proof that big muscle = fighting prowess.

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Sandow would be turning in his grave if he could see a figure of himself being used at the "Olympia". Given his views on bodybuilding for HEALTH and his negative views on other races.


Weider "Sandow" is imitation/FAKE statue  ;)

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MSM of their day would have been all over it (Police Gazette, Opera House Magazine), etc.  :o

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