Author Topic: LOL democrat pushes to double the federal gas tax and thats not the worst part!!  (Read 665 times)

tonymctones

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This libtard wants to study taxing people for every mile they drive...

just fucking wow, how these idiots get people to buy into this shit is just mind boggling....but then again we have people on here defending obamacare so...

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs/post--congressman-proposes-federal-mileage-tax-hiking-gas-tax

"U.S. Representative Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) has reintroduced a bill that would require the U.S. government to study taxing drivers based on vehicle miles traveled (VMT) instead of how much gas they consume to help refill federal coffers.

The legislation proposes setting up a Road Usage Fee Pilot Program to study a federal VMT payment system. Blumenauer views the bill as a long-term solution for funding highway programs, and he included with it a shorter-term plan to nearly double the federal gas tax, from 18.4 cents to 33.4 cents per gallon."



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This libtard wants to study taxing people for every mile they drive...

just fucking wow, how these idiots get people to buy into this shit is just mind boggling....but then again we have people on here defending obamacare so...

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs/post--congressman-proposes-federal-mileage-tax-hiking-gas-tax

"U.S. Representative Earl Blumenauer (D-Ore.) has reintroduced a bill that would require the U.S. government to study taxing drivers based on vehicle miles traveled (VMT) instead of how much gas they consume to help refill federal coffers.

The legislation proposes setting up a Road Usage Fee Pilot Program to study a federal VMT payment system. Blumenauer views the bill as a long-term solution for funding highway programs, and he included with it a shorter-term plan to nearly double the federal gas tax, from 18.4 cents to 33.4 cents per gallon."





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I don't mind the "vehicle miles traveled" based solution, provided that the current gasoline tax goes away completely – as if that would happen.

But doubling the gasoline tax is just dumb. If the "coffers" are empty spend less, don't reach into my pocket.

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It has begun.

A push to force EVERYONE to buy electric cars.

One way or another, libtards want to artificially create demand for those type of cars.

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Dems won't stop until freedom is totally eliminated and they control and regulate and tax everything a person does.

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It has begun.

A push to force EVERYONE to buy electric cars.

One way or another, libtards want to artificially create demand for those type of cars.

Actually, many democrats have sought ways to recoup the tax revenue "lost" to electric cars, and this "by the mile" proposal is one way to achieve this.

While I find taxes in general to be distasteful (and think that the government's ability to tax should be severely curtailed and tightly circumscribed) a move for 'by the mile' taxation is something that I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to. My reasoning is the following - and it assumes that providing certain transportation infrastructure, such as highways, is a proper function of government (note: I'm not 100% sold on this premise), but let's assume it arguendo.

With that assumption entered, it follows that the government needs to maintain that transportation infrastructure. Currently, much of that maintenance (which is, granted, subpar) is financed from these gasoline taxes at the Federal level and vehicle registration taxes at the State level.

So now the question becomes, are gasoline taxes the best and most efficient way to finance such maintenance? I submit that driving back and forth in the city is not the same as driving back and forth between Las Vegas and Los Angeles twice a week. Vehicles achieve their best fuel economy on the highway and travel at highway speeds causes more damage to roadways that are more expensive to build than roadways inside the city. So in a perverse way, people driving inside the city are forced to pay more to maintain highways which they may not use.

In that sense, I wouldn't mind moving to a system where you'd get taxed based on the miles you drove and the type of road you drove on. This would also mean that electric car owners who drove on highways would end up paying for the maintenance of the infrastructure that they use, something which they currently don't do.

However, there are serious implications involved with moving to such a scheme. The 800 lbs gorilla is privacy: in the wake of recent revelations do we really want to give the government the explicit authority/ability to track our location, ostensibly for taxation purposes? I'm not naive, and I know they are getting a lot of that information anyways, but I don't know that I'd want to codify the authority for them to collect it.

As for electric cars in general, I have to tell you that I have driven the Tesla Model S and I find it to be a superb automobile. If that car represents the future of electric vehicles then I say, bring the electric cars on!

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I don't mind the "vehicle miles traveled" based solution, provided that the current gasoline tax goes away completely – as if that would happen.

But doubling the gasoline tax is just dumb. If the "coffers" are empty spend less, don't reach into my pocket.
as a person that commutes about 45 miles round trip everyday I completely disagree. I believe the average commute round trip is over 30 miles so this tax will effect a great number of the population.

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as a person that commutes about 45 miles round trip everyday I completely disagree. I believe the average commute round trip is over 30 miles so this tax will effect a great number of the population.

I'm not sure what you disagree with?

Do you think that doubling the gasoline tax will "effect a great number of the population"? That's a no-brainer: it will affect 100% of people who operate vehicles that run on gasoline.

Or do you think that moving to a "miles-traveled" tax system will affect a great number of the population? If so, it's unclear why you think that. You already pay a "miles-traveled" tax in a sense: you pay for gasoline, and your car only goes up to a certain number of miles per gallon. Moving to a system where you actually paid for the number of miles traveled could allow you to (a) lower your gasoline costs and (b) partially disaggregate the cost of highway driving from the cost of city driving and (c) stop penalizing you for having a hyper-miler vehicle.

But even if none of those things were true it's possible that moving to such a system would still reduce your tax bill. The tax per mile could be lower than the tax per gallon when you account for the miles per gallon figure for your automobile. Of course, that's not likely, but it's at least possible.