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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2008, 06:40:44 AM »
you forgot mike mentzer at the 80 olympia.....


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Mike Mentzer got dwarfed, and had no chest and a podgy belly.

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2008, 06:42:42 AM »
Guys that really IS me.
Some pic were posted on Getbig of me when I was 70 and my face is the same. I'm too weak from the Chemo to look up other pics but it really is me. Only the top 3 were announced but maybe Joe Roark has info which will show I was there.



that is very cool if you were there

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2008, 06:43:52 AM »
Guys that really IS me.
Some pic were posted on Getbig of me when I was 70 and my face is the same. I'm too weak from the Chemo to look up other pics but it really is me. Only the top 3 were announced but maybe Joe Roark has info which will show I was there.



Can anyone else verify Mr. Thomsons statement?

If true, he was quite the bodybuilder, I must say.

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2008, 06:46:06 AM »
Guys that really IS me.
Some pic were posted on Getbig of me when I was 70 and my face is the same. I'm too weak from the Chemo to look up other pics but it really is me. Only the top 3 were announced but maybe Joe Roark has info which will show I was there.



I was there too! It's crazy to imagine I was competiting against Arnold back in those days, but I'm too tired and lazy to look up other pics, but I was really there. Only the top 3 were announced, but maybe Joe Roark has info which will show I was there.  ::)

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2009, 08:49:33 PM »
Believe it or not that is me on the far right. I didn't bother to shave or tan because I thought the standard would be shit.
At that time I was just about to leave the Blackwatch after spending 5 years as a master sergent in Berlin. At that time the Brits, Russians, Americans and Frenchies guarded checkpoint charlie on the east Berlin border, Happy Days.




That is not Jimmy Thomson onstage with Arnold at the 1964 Mr. Austria!
 
   The contestant is actually Adolf Ziegner, who went on to compete in the NABBA Universe and the IFBB World's. The original contest report for the 1964 Mr. Austria is in issue 21 of Der Muskelbilder, which has more pictures of Ziegner. Jimmy's name doesn't appear in the report and Jimmy isn't any of the other contestants in that photo either. Neither does Jimmy appear in any of the two dozen or so onstage and backstage photos that have survived from the three contests held that day. The contests were held in Graz, Austria. Quite a way from Berlin.

  Would a British citizen be allowed to enter the Mr. Austria anyway?

  Perhaps it was another contest in Graz or Germany that Jimmy entered. If he lets us know, I'll be happy to look it up.
   
 The picture was posted by Harald Maurer (2nd from right in the line-up). http://www.mahag.com/harry/spo.htm Another line-up pic on Harald's site has Ziegner standing front and centre.
 
Arnold was defeated in 4 contests in 1964/5.
1964 Mr. Steiermark (4th place, 26th April, Graz). Harald Maurer won.
1964 Mr. Herkules (3rd place, 26th April, Graz). Helmut Cerncic won.
1964 Mr. Austria (3rd place, 26th April, Graz). Marnul won.
1965 Mr. Austria (not 1st, Spring, Graz). Arnold's placing unknown, Marnul won.
 
There may have been another contest in 1965, which Arnold may have won but that hasn't been confirmed yet. Arnold didn't compete in 1963.

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2009, 09:45:19 PM »
you forgot mike mentzer at the 80 olympia.....


 ;D
  Mike Mentzer..........Mike Mentzer.............oh yeah the guy that lost to Arnold before the show even started. He later got into philosophical ramblings, went nuts, drank quarts of his own piss and slept on the streets. Got fat started smoking and telling everybody that one set was all you need for one whole week and even up to a month!!!! hhahahahahahahahahahahah
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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2009, 04:56:37 AM »
DCN, are you David New?

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2009, 05:38:57 AM »
Early pic of Adolf Zeigner,and a couple from the 76 Universe.

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2009, 05:47:30 AM »
Ironically, Jimmy and Ziegner probably came face to face at a NABBA universe show at some point. Does anyone know in which years they both competed?

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2009, 05:52:32 AM »
Adolf was in the 68 and 69 Universe,not sure what year Jimmy competed.

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2009, 06:03:06 AM »
Ziegner also did 1983. I have a complete set of Universe programmes from '64-'73, as well as a complete set of H&S covering 66-77. I'd go through them but there are too many. Could Jimmy narrow it down for us? I've seen pictures of him as a senior, it would be interesting to see how he looked when younger.

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2009, 06:24:46 AM »
Ziegner also did 1983. I have a complete set of Universe programmes from '64-'73, as well as a complete set of H&S covering 66-77. I'd go through them but there are too many. Could Jimmy narrow it down for us? I've seen pictures of him as a senior, it would be interesting to see how he looked when younger.

It may have been the 83 Universe as you say,heres a link to a thread and pics i posted of Jimmy.One of the members on ironage says he competed in the Masters in Scotland in 83,so he may have qualified for the Universe then.
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php/topic,9115.0.html

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2009, 11:07:39 AM »
Arnold = overrated


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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2009, 12:42:33 PM »
Arnold = overrated


Watch your mouth, convict!  >:(

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2009, 12:49:15 PM »
Arnold = My Daddy


I love him very much.
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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2009, 02:46:06 PM »
When Big Mike M lost to Arnold he said "I am not going to shove Needles in my arse for a year for this shit"Boooooooooooooom and never stepped back on stage.Oh and Helmut Cerncic went on to doing Live Sex acts on stage.At one time both Mike and Helmut were great guys.

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2009, 04:02:04 PM »
i am pretty sure arnolds daddy was the first man to beat him

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Re: Arnold's defeat....
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2009, 04:20:25 PM »
When Big Mike M lost to Arnold he said "I am not going to shove Needles in my arse for a year for this shit"Boooooooooooooom and never stepped back on stage.Oh and Helmut Cerncic went on to doing Live Sex acts on stage.At one time both Mike and Helmut were great guys.

So he started putting them in his delts?