Who is really the best boxer?

[Cleanest Natural]

If the ideea is to be no1, then why have weight classes? do Like k1 and allow everyone to fight. I would like to see Floyd thrown from rope to rope wwf style by The Haymaker  

[MORTALCOIL]

If the ideea is to be no1, then why have weight classes? do Like k1 and allow everyone to fight. I would like to see Floyd thrown from rope to rope wwf style by The Haymaker  

That would be an exhilarating 15 seconds. Not like boxing nowadays.

[Cleanest Natural]

I cannot grasp the pund for pound concept. You can beat me senseless but pound for pound I kill you 

[The Showstoppa]

I cannot grasp the pund for pound concept. You can beat me senseless but pound for pound I kill you 

I agree. Can you imagine if the NBA had height classes?  Or size classes for the NFL?

[MORTALCOIL]

I agree. Can you imagine if the NBA had height classes?  Or size classes for the NFL?

Not comparable. Could you imagine a basketball team with 5 Dirk Nowitzki on the court? Weight classes are made to differentiate skills from pure power. No weight classes= no Ray Sugar Robinson, no Ray Leonard, no Hearns/Hagler, no Julio Cesar Chavez. That's why boxing is not street fighting. Like it or not.

[Mr Nobody]

I agree. Can you imagine if the NBA had height classes?  Or size classes for the NFL?

Spud Webb dominated the dunk contest once.

[The Showstoppa]

Not comparable. Could you imagine a basketball team with 5 Dirk Nowitzki on the court? Weight classes are made to differentiate skills from pure power. No weight classes= no Ray Sugar Robinson, no Ray Leonard, no Hearns/Hagler, no Julio Cesar Chavez. That's why boxing is not street fighting. Like it or not.

Sure its comparable.  Early MMA didnt have them.  And a team could have 5 Dirks on the court if they wanted to.  Its not illegal. 

[MORTALCOIL]

Sure its comparable.  Early MMA didnt have them.  And a team could have 5 Dirks on the court if they wanted to.  Its not illegal. 

But would it be efficient. No. Otherwise, you'd only have centers on the field. MMA didn't have the weight class and what happened? They finally got them because people where bored watching 35 minutes of a 180-pound Gracie massaging to exhaustion 250-pound guys. The entertainment value of sports are at his cost.

[Cleanest Natural]

Isn't is about the best fighter? Let them fight if they feel like contending and let the best man win. But it brings billions so why fuck with the cash cow?

[Mr Nobody]

Don King will straighten this shit out just send him some $.

[Cleanest Natural]

Don King will straighten this shit out just send him some $.

He is a man of morals.

[MORTALCOIL]

"I came from a dirt farm. Now, I'm filthy rich"- Larry Holmes

[GraniteCityDon]

whilst i see the requirement for weight classes in modern combat sports ive always said that an open weight is where the actions really lies. A great small guy would beat a mediocre - good big guy with regularity.

Something i have also said before is that if youre on the street and a fight is away to break out youre not gonna say, "sorry mate, youre not in my weight class". Youre gonna throw down regardless.

[Cleanest Natural]

whilst i see the requirement for weight classes in modern combat sports ive always said that an open weight is where the actions really lies. A great small guy would beat a mediocre - good big guy with regularity.

Something i have also said before is that if youre on the street and a fight is away to break out youre not gonna say, "sorry mate, youre not in my weight class". Youre gonna throw down regardless.

yeah  .. time out time out! .. let us weigh ourself first then sort it out.

[MORTALCOIL]

whilst i see the requirement for weight classes in modern combat sports ive always said that an open weight is where the actions really lies. A great small guy would beat a mediocre - good big guy with regularity.

Something i have also said before is that if youre on the street and a fight is away to break out youre not gonna say, "sorry mate, youre not in my weight class". Youre gonna throw down regardless.

I agree with the rest of your post. But really not sure about that one. How many great boxers have you seen go up in weight only to find themselves less fun to watch: Hopkins, Roy Jones, Ray Leonard himself, Trinidad, etc.....Bowing is not brawling. If it was, well it would be....brawling.

P.S: I know you guys are getbiggers, so that means that when you sort it out on the streets, the crowd not only cheers but also hands you a nice paycheck at the end of it. But most people don't really get into street fights to as a professional activity. Would you enter the ring with a skilled opponent (meaning that he could actually kill you), unprepared, without gloves and a ref? Two completely different things.

[whitewidow]

Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the best boxer of the last decade and a half maybe the best ever lb for lb. as far as a person the guy is a prick unless you know him real well or are somebody on the same level money wise. that is why Floyd used to hang out with guys like 50 cent till they started fighting about money. %0 cent is worth way more the mayweather. Now mayweather hangs out with other rich guys/kids on his level money wise,for christ sakes Mayweather Jr. hangs out with justin beiber. Floyd says he has changed since he got out of jail for beating his wife he cheated on daily.

Now floyd says he realized he was hanging out with guys who were not his real friends, he has admitted his mom,dad and uncle are all drug addicts. some are worse then others. floyd says his mom is a full blown drug addict while his dad and roger have gotten some help and can control there problem somewhat. Flyd no longer partys and uses drugs himself. Floyd was never a full blown drug addict but he did like to party alot and used his fair share of drugs mostly just marijuana but of course he has experimented with cocaine,ecstasy and other drugs but drinking and mrijauna were his main drugs he used.

Now floyd is clean and hangs out with justin beiber. Floyd has dreams of stealing justin beiber away from his camp and getting justin to sign a deal with him. no joke. He hangs out with beiber in hopes of getting at justins money. As far as a person mayweather is slowly making some improvements as far as a boxer floyd just makes people look stupid in the ring. Floyd is still on top of the game and it would be very hard to find anybody who has a chance with floyd. Floyd has mainly taken alot of easy fights mainly fighten broken down mexicans but floyd has beaten all the best out there as well. Floyds last fight against canelo just shows how great mayweather is. mayweather made canelo look like TRASH! Floyd made canelo look so SLOW! there ere times in that fight were floyd would make canelo take a huge swing and make him miss and pose for the camera for a second before he counter shot him. Canelos whole career looks like a joke after what Mayweather did to him. That was just a embarrassment.I think canelo is still crying over that fight.

same thing when Manny fought Brandon Rios, look how slow Manny made Brandon look. Brandon was just swinging at air and manny would be all over him hitting him at every angle. Manny made Brandon Rios look really bad not sure if floyd made canelo look worse but both Floyd and Manny made there recent opponents just look like slow amateur trash! Brandon Rios tried to do a interview after the fight and he just broke down crying like a little bitch -check it out on youtube Brandon just crys like a baby he was so embarrased! I have never seen ring depression as bad as Brandon Rios after that beating manny gave him and the judges even tossed Rios a few rounds wich he didn't deserve both floyd and manny dished perfect shut-out fights.

 I wish Bob Arum could just make the floyd/manny fight still happen but at this point both guys are older and that was what people wanted to see 4 years ago not now.
mayweather has the edge over manny.the fight would never happen floyd would not fight with a arum fighter as floyd claims bob arum owes him millions of dollars for some old fights. No fighter has dominated the sport like floyd and has done it with taking NO ABUSE! Manny has been knocked down,knocked out, he has 5 loses, floyd is undefeated and has never touched the deck not even a glove has touched the deck. I have never seen floyd rocked or hurt the least bit. All smiles from mayweather when a opponent thinks they are hurting him. Floyd def the best. lb for lb probably ever. Floyd will end his career 49-0 and will do it without taking a punch. Floyd is right when he says it isn;t cool taking abuse like most fighters do and that is something he has never done was take abuse in the ring. Ali took to much abuse in the ring and it gave him parkinsons, sugar ray was a great fighter but not quite as good as floyd very close but floyd would of beat sugar ray in his prime. I think it is safe to say Mayweather Jr. is the best ever. Floyd also had a very tough road growing up as did most african american fighters. When floyd was younger def nothing came easy to him. It is not easy grwoing up with drug addicted parents growing up in detroit wich is a real rough city.

[GraniteCityDon]

I agree with the rest of your post. But really not sure about that one. How many great boxers have you seen go up in weight only to find themselves less fun to watch: Hopkins, Roy Jones, Ray Leonard himself, Trinidad, etc.....Bowing is not brawling. If it was, well it would be....brawling.

P.S: I know you guys are getbiggers, so that means that when you sort it out on the streets, the crowd not only cheers but also hands you a nice paycheck at the end of it. But most people don't really get into street fights to as a professional activity. Would you enter the ring with a skilled opponent (meaning that he could actually kill you), unprepared, without gloves and a ref? Two completely different things.

I agree with everything you say, but in an open weight clash the fighters would ideally be at their functional weight and not be packing on 7 - 14lbs for the sake of it. You could have a legit 140 - 147lb fighter fighting a legit 160lb fighter, or a 160lb fighter taking on a HW at his natural fighting weight.

In that case your Jones', Hattons, Trinidads etc wouldnt be bulking up 2 weight classes to be physically competitive but showing their abilities at their best weights.

[The True Adonis]

These 2.

[T-REX007]

Hearns, Hagler, Duran, Leonard, and Benitez if he shows up ready to fight all beat Floyd , he is a great fighter for sure, but not the greatest. In the late 70's through the 80's he has 4 and probably 5 losses against the above mentioned guys.

[JasonH]

Best in the world at the moment = Mayweather.

[GraniteCityDon]

Floyd could be the best of this era, hes pretty much untouchable but has avoided 2 - 3 guys who, in their primes, could have caused him serious damage. Its all theoretical and opinion based, some guys will lean towards fighters because of their own allegiances, or because it is popular opinion and they cant think logically for themselves.

I would have loved to see Leonard v Mayweather, stylistically i think they match up very well. But back on point, its hard to look passed him right now as there really arent alot of guys throughout the divisions that have his level of technical ability. They may be faster, more powerful etc but he puts it all together better than everyone just now.

one for the future (even the present), and if you havent heard of him or watched him fight then please do so, is Carl Frampton. Very exciting prospect! Kell Brook will also dominate once he puts the arrogance to one side and focuses 100% on the task at hand.

[R.A.M.]

[Cleanest Natural]

hahahaha best in the world but would get killed by a top 10 heavyweight

che? what's your take on this?

[Darren Avey]

"Boxing"  no one cares about a bunch of pussys patting each other with pillows on their hands. They d all die in the cage. The cage is where its at.

[Rami]

rare fight John Clease aka Basil Fawlty vs Mike Tyson