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Re: fox news being fox news
« Reply #75 on: December 16, 2013, 10:40:10 AM »
We got Megan to do a video for my boss in Iraq...I'm pretty sure that's the sole reason I got promoted.

I hope all the armed services don't operate the same way,scary thought

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« Reply #76 on: December 16, 2013, 10:42:55 AM »
I hope all the armed services don't operate the same way,scary thought
why dont you sign up and find out for yourself? :)

ive found most people who try and denigrate the US military has absolutley zero clue how it actually operates or what the men and women who volunteer for it stands for

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« Reply #77 on: December 16, 2013, 10:45:37 AM »
St Nicholas was Greek, meaning he was a Caucasian European.  His contribution is only a portion of the mythology of Santa Claus created in Europe. Turkey used to be a seat of Christian power before the Muslims hordes conquered it. Stewart isn't a valid source for anything.  No one older than 22 should take the man seriously as a relied upon news source.  All of this outrage is just to oppose Fox News and the right.  It has nothing to do with any belief in anything other than pettiness.

He was not white, are you mad. the greco-turkish war altered the borders, he was most certainly dark skinned as depicted in most art.

When you say caucasian, in which manner are you using the term? arabic peoples would be considered caucasian as would someone from the nordic region, clearly they look different. Are you telling me a swedish person and an italian look the same? an iranian?

He was not white, but brown, hence she is wrong. What is your point again? because he wasn't white no matter how you try to obfuscate it.

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« Reply #78 on: December 16, 2013, 10:49:41 AM »
why dont you sign up and find out for yourself? :)

ive found most people who try and denigrate the US military has absolutley zero clue how it actually operates or what the men and women who volunteer for it stands for

so is that a good reason to get promoted in the military ???

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« Reply #79 on: December 16, 2013, 10:57:34 AM »
He was not white, are you mad. the greco-turkish war altered the borders, he was most certainly dark skinned as depicted in most art.

When you say caucasian, in which manner are you using the term? arabic peoples would be considered caucasian as would someone from the nordic region, clearly they look different. Are you telling me a swedish person and an italian look the same? an iranian?

He was not white, but brown, hence she is wrong. What is your point again? because he wasn't white no matter how you try to obfuscate it.

He was Caucasian and of European heritage. And as I mentioned he is but a small part of the Sanat Claus  mythos, a mythos that is distinctly European in origin.  Santa Claus is based on many different cultures and people of whom Nicholas was just one but they were all white Europeans.


And his depiction on art is little indication of his actually hue.  How he is depicted is consistent with the art of the time. As a matter of fact he looks like my uncle.   My point is, fools like you like to rewrite history to suit your nonsense political agenda of diversity and inclusion.  You're willing to sacrifice facts to create your bizzaro reality.
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Re: fox news being fox news
« Reply #80 on: December 16, 2013, 11:06:40 AM »
He was Caucasian and of European heritage. And as I mentioned he is but a small part of the Sanat Claus  mythos, a mythos that is distinctly European in origin.  And his depiction on art is little indication of his actually hue.  How he is depicted is consistent with the art of the time. As a matter of fact he looks like my uncle.   My point is, fools like you like to rewrite history to suit your nonsense political agenda of diversity and inclusion.  You're willing to sacrifice facts to create your bizzaro reality.

What bizzaro reality? that he as from an area now known as turkey as was likely not white as was the issue of thread.

You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Santa claus, the myth or at least the hagiography was based on st nicolas, the name was taken from saint nicholas, in fact it's an alias we all know, jolly ol saint nick. However, you keep referring to the dutch version which is based heavily off of saint nicholas, who snuck around giving presents at night blah blah.

So where did I re write history? the man this whole thing is based off is not white, it's not a small part of the mythos, it's the fucking etiology, it's the most important part.It's where many of the cutoms come from later on was the pagan mythology added.


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« Reply #81 on: December 16, 2013, 11:15:46 AM »
What bizzaro reality? that he as from an area now known as turkey as was likely not white as was the issue of thread.

You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Santa claus, the myth or at least the hagiography was based on st nicolas, the name was taken from saint nicholas, in fact it's an alias we all know, jolly ol saint nick. However, you keep referring to the dutch version which is based heavily off of saint nicholas, who snuck around giving presents at night blah blah.

So where did I re write history? the man this whole thing is based off is not white, it's not a small part of the mythos, it's the fucking etiology, it's the most important part.It's where many of the cutoms come from later on was the pagan mythology added.



St Nicholas is not Santa Claus.  He is one of the many inspirations for the Santa Claus we know today.  Nicholas was of Caucasian European extraction.  Santa Claus is of European origin genetically, historically and culturally and should be respected as such.  It's really that simple. You're trying to rewrite history by denying the implicitly European origin of Santa Claus.  Seriously, is is a fight you can't win.  You're wrong at every stop.
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« Reply #82 on: December 16, 2013, 11:29:17 AM »


They reminded us that Santa Claus is based on St. Nicholas, a Greek who lived in what is now Turkey and would probably have had olive-colored skin, no freckles, and thus not be a white man at all.

It’s true that linguistic corruption eventually transformed “Saint Nikolaos” into “Santa Claus.” It’s also true that the real-life St. Nick was known for his gift-giving ways. But that’s where most of the similarities seem to end. Otherwise, the St. Nicholas legend veers off into other weird pathways such as how he liked to help sailors and how he saved three poor daughters from becoming hookers and the time where he resurrected three boys who’d been chopped to death by a butcher.

Other major elements of the Santa Claus legend seem to have been supplied by Northern European mythology that got subsumed into Christianity as it conquered the continent. Northern Germans and Scandinavians celebrated a holiday called Yule around the winter solstice. During Yule season, the white-bearded pagan god Odin would traverse the skies by night on his eight-legged horse. Children would place boots near the chimney filled with straw for Odin’s horse to eat. In the morning they’d awake to find the straw replaced with gifts and candy. It is thought that Odin’s eight-legged horse would later morph into eight tiny reindeer and the boots would become Christmas stockings.

The British, Dutch, and others would add several layers to the Santa myth, but what’s important is that beyond St. Nicholas’s Greek origins, everything else about the legend appears to have germinated and developed in Northern Europe. (Further modifications were made to the Santa Claus myth in America, but Thomas Nast and Clement Clarke Moore also had skin as pink as bubble gum.) Santa Claus is a primarily Northern European cultural icon and therefore about as white as it gets.
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Re: fox news being fox news
« Reply #83 on: December 16, 2013, 11:30:43 AM »
St Nicholas is not Santa Claus.  He is one of the many inspirations for the Santa Claus we know today.  Nicholas was of Caucasian European extraction.  Santa Claus is of European origin genetically, historically and culturally and should be respected as such.  It's really that simple. You're trying to rewrite history by denying the implicitly European origin of Santa Claus.  Seriously, is is a fight you can't win.  You're wrong at every stop.


Obviously, jesus, Santa Claus (claus? dutch much?) is a fictional being with super human powers like shape shifting and telekinesis, so you are either trolling or retarded. St Nick is the basis for santa claus, there isn't many origins, wtf? the etiology and hagiography is from st nicholas, it's a fight I have won, the facts are on my side.

Again what are you using caucasian for? in order to obfuscate, Nicholas was a turkish brownie like jesus. you addressed none of my points that rebut the bullshit you are spewing. I haven't denied anything, I have stated facts, you are claming that these stories have different origins when the fucking hagiography is based on saint nick, lol.

Your argument is to play semantics with the word caucasian and european, which as I have shown are meaningless, yet you won't define them because you have no idea wtf you are talking about. You can leave the thread through the back door and no one will notice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

Even things like is stature were taken from the actual person.




















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« Reply #84 on: December 16, 2013, 11:32:41 AM »

They reminded us that Santa Claus is based on St. Nicholas, a Greek who lived in what is now Turkey and would probably have had olive-colored skin, no freckles, and thus not be a white man at all.

It’s true that linguistic corruption eventually transformed “Saint Nikolaos” into “Santa Claus.” It’s also true that the real-life St. Nick was known for his gift-giving ways. But that’s where most of the similarities seem to end. Otherwise, the St. Nicholas legend veers off into other weird pathways such as how he liked to help sailors and how he saved three poor daughters from becoming hookers and the time where he resurrected three boys who’d been chopped to death by a butcher.

Other major elements of the Santa Claus legend seem to have been supplied by Northern European mythology that got subsumed into Christianity as it conquered the continent. Northern Germans and Scandinavians celebrated a holiday called Yule around the winter solstice. During Yule season, the white-bearded pagan god Odin would traverse the skies by night on his eight-legged horse. Children would place boots near the chimney filled with straw for Odin’s horse to eat. In the morning they’d awake to find the straw replaced with gifts and candy. It is thought that Odin’s eight-legged horse would later morph into eight tiny reindeer and the boots would become Christmas stockings.

The British, Dutch, and others would add several layers to the Santa myth, but what’s important is that beyond St. Nicholas’s Greek origins, everything else about the legend appears to have germinated and developed in Northern Europe. (Further modifications were made to the Santa Claus myth in America, but Thomas Nast and Clement Clarke Moore also had skin as pink as bubble gum.) Santa Claus is a primarily Northern European cultural icon and therefore about as white as it gets.


This showsyour mentality, If you had reading comprehension you would see that I agree with the above and still disagree with the original clip.


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« Reply #85 on: December 16, 2013, 11:33:10 AM »
Obviously, jesus, Santa Claus (claus? dutch much?) is a fictional being with super human powers like shape shifting and telekinesis, so you are either trolling or retarded. St Nick is the basis for santa claus, there isn't many origins, wtf? the etiology and hagiography is from st nicholas, it's a fight I have won, the facts are on my side.

Again what are you using caucasian for? in order to obfuscate, Nicholas was a turkish brownie like jesus. you addressed none of my points that rebut the bullshit you are spewing. I haven't denied anything, I have stated facts, you are claming that these stories have different origins when the fucking hagiography is based on saint nick, lol.

Your argument is to play semantics with the word caucasian and european, which as I have shown are meaningless, yet you won't define them because you have no idea wtf you are talking about. You can leave the thread through the back door and no one will notice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

Even things like is stature were taken from the actual person.





















You've been rebutted.  Give it up. You're delusional.
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« Reply #86 on: December 16, 2013, 11:33:51 AM »
This showsyour mentality, If you had reading comprehension you would see that I agree with the above and still disagree with the original clip.



Then you are dumber than I thought.  You are a 24k level moron.
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« Reply #87 on: December 16, 2013, 11:37:38 AM »
They are less socialist or nanny state then the two places I mentioned, meaning your correlation is spurious meaning it's a false equivalene. Thus, something else, another variable or the combination of them is creating the situation. Perhaps it is not as simple as you are making it sound, perhaps socialism is a gradient a specturm per se not a binary system.

What is apparent is that the more socialist you are the better you run. Makes sense, since the people get the governments benefits, unlike the us who give them to the corps who then suck the system dry.

I'd like you to explain to us how a true socialist system works please. I'm being 100% serious.

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« Reply #88 on: December 16, 2013, 11:41:28 AM »
You've been rebutted.  Give it up. You're delusional.

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« Reply #89 on: December 16, 2013, 11:45:20 AM »
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I am the apex troll/predator of this site fruit.

No one knows who you are.  You're just another ideologue with no original thought. And it's sad you consider it an accomplishment to be an anonymous troll on a bodybuilding site.  You must not have a full life.
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« Reply #90 on: December 16, 2013, 12:10:56 PM »
They are less socialist or nanny state then the two places I mentioned, meaning your correlation is spurious meaning it's a false equivalene. Thus, something else, another variable or the combination of them is creating the situation. Perhaps it is not as simple as you are making it sound, perhaps socialism is a gradient a specturm per se not a binary system.

What is apparent is that the more socialist you are the better you run. Makes sense, since the people get the governments benefits, unlike the us who give them to the corps who then suck the system dry.

wow.  just......  wow.  that is THE most infantile, simplistic, and grotesquely unfair description of socialism that I have personally ever heard.

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« Reply #91 on: December 16, 2013, 12:45:02 PM »
Perhaps it is not as simple as you are making it sound, perhaps socialism is a gradient a specturm per se not a binary system.

What is apparent is that the more socialist you are the better you run. Makes sense, since the people get the governments benefits, unlike the us who give them to the corps who then suck the system dry.

I could say the same to you.  Perhaps whatever is working in Germany and Norway has nothing to do with Socialism.  

Venezuela exports lots of oil, has a relatively small population, and Venezuela is very Socialist.  Why then is Venezuela on the verge of collapse?

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« Reply #92 on: December 16, 2013, 01:26:34 PM »
I hope all the armed services don't operate the same way,scary thought


I suspect it was more because we almost died together several times and I didn't complain. But having Miss Kelly mention ur boss's name always helps. I got my own video. We'd done a number of huge embeds with Fox and they asked us what we wanted. My boss loved her so thats what we got.  Last year I got a merry christmas one from Bill O'reilly.
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« Reply #93 on: December 16, 2013, 03:02:07 PM »

I suspect it was more because we almost died together several times and I didn't complain. But having Miss Kelly mention ur boss's name always helps. I got my own video. We'd done a number of huge embeds with Fox and they asked us what we wanted. My boss loved her so thats what we got.  Last year I got a merry christmas one from Bill O'reilly.

how about al Sharpton any good times with him  ;D

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« Reply #94 on: December 16, 2013, 03:03:19 PM »
how about al Sharpton any good times with him  ;D

LOL! They're BFF's  ;D
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« Reply #95 on: December 16, 2013, 03:24:52 PM »
wow.  just......  wow.  that is THE most infantile, simplistic, and grotesquely unfair description of socialism that I have personally ever heard.

It wasn't a description or socialism.

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« Reply #96 on: December 16, 2013, 03:25:46 PM »
I could say the same to you.  Perhaps whatever is working in Germany and Norway has nothing to do with Socialism.  

Venezuela exports lots of oil, has a relatively small population, and Venezuela is very Socialist.  Why then is Venezuela on the verge of collapse?

Exactly, my point exactly, exactly, you are unfairly labelling socialism as a negative.

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Re: fox news being fox news
« Reply #97 on: December 17, 2013, 08:24:20 AM »
I'd like you to explain to us how a true socialist system works please. I'm being 100% serious.

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« Reply #98 on: December 17, 2013, 08:27:14 AM »
Did you miss this Necro?

I didn't, I couldn't give less of a fuck what you want. Is there anything else you would like to run down? perhaps special relatvity or the pathogenesis of type one diabetes. Any other requests thick nick?

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« Reply #99 on: December 17, 2013, 08:28:20 AM »
No one knows who you are.  You're just another ideologue with no original thought. And it's sad you consider it an accomplishment to be an anonymous troll on a bodybuilding site.  You must not have a full life.

No I am your owner you historical revisionist.