Seriously considering sub-q shots instead of IM. Am I crazy???

[Big Chiro Flex]

It's Mawse's fault.

-Discuss

[Borracho]

Don't you have to inject more frequent and limit amounts to like half a cc though  

[Big Chiro Flex]

Don't you have to inject more frequent and limit amounts to half a cc though 

Yes but remember we are low dose guys anyways Brochacho

[Borracho]

Yes but remember we are low dose guys anyways Brochacho

I'm running vet grade eq dosed at 50mg per ml it wouldn't work now. 

I will consider it in the future but I have to look into it more.

[Big Chiro Flex]

I'm running vet grade eq dosed at 50mg per ml it wouldn't work now. 

I will consider it in the future but I have to look into it more.

Nice dude.

How does that work with 50mgs/ml. Are you just pinning massive quantities of oil every week? Why not use something dosed higher?

[Borracho]

Nice dude.

How does that work with 50mgs/ml. Are you just pinning massive quantities of oil every week? Why not use something dosed higher?

I started doing a little over 3 ccs every mon, wed, and fri so I wouldn't have to pin a whole vial at once. Its something I had access to, a little more pricey than the average ugl but I'm an animal so using vet gear is comparable to a normal person using human grade.

Btw are there any studies on sub q steroid injections?

[Big Chiro Flex]

I started doing a little over 3 ccs every mon, wed, and fri so I wouldn't have to pin a whole vial at once. Its something I had access to, a little more pricey than the average ugl but I'm an animal so using vet gear is comparable to a normal person using human grade.

Btw are there any studies on sub q steroid injections?

Lol nice bro.

Yeah there is - handful on pubmed.

A lotta TRT docs advise sub q.

[_aj_]

Would it work with long ester test? Enan or Cyp?

[Big Chiro Flex]

Would it work with long ester test? Enan or Cyp?

Yep. That's what a lotta TRT docs prescribe for it

[_aj_]

Yep. That's what a lotta TRT docs prescribe for it

So it has the same half-life as IM, for some reason that seems wrong to me, but less deep muscle jabs, the better, I guess. Sub-q with a slin pin is pretty easy.

[Dago_Joe]

Have done it for a while now.  Works fine.  Don't do more than 1 cc at a time because it gets a bit sore.  1/2 cc is just fine per shot.  For TRT, I do 1/2 cc twice a week.

[Kim Jong Bob]

Yes but remember we are low dose guys anyways Brochacho

you forgot to put no homo in the end.


Im  curious to try it to, atleast one time..keep us posted

[_aj_]

Have done it for a while now.  Works fine.  Don't do more than 1 cc at a time because it gets a bit sore.  1/2 cc is just fine per shot.  For TRT, I do 1/2 cc twice a week.

Where? Hip? Quad?

NO HOMO

[no one]

couldnt handle it. did .5ml shots in my abdominal area. couldnt handle the post injection pain that isnt there im, and the lumps took a very long time to dissipate.

[Big Chiro Flex]

So it has the same half-life as IM, for some reason that seems wrong to me, but less deep muscle jabs, the better, I guess. Sub-q with a slin pin is pretty easy.

Not really though because think about this: do you really think your test Cyp is just sitting in your muscle, slowly releasing over the next 12 days? I dont think so. It hits your bloodstream immediately.

[Dago_Joe]

Where? Hip? Quad?

NO HOMO

Abdomen.  Little painful, but not as bad as IM in quads.  Need to inject SLOWLY AND DO NOT PINCH YOUR FLAB FIRST!  Just inject straight in.  It is not bad and there is minimal bleeding.  Nothing like the blood geysers from IM shots.  I rotate between IM and Sub Q.  To sum up:
1/2- 1 cc max per shot
Do not pinch flab before inject
inject slowly

[Big Chiro Flex]

Abdomen.  Little painful, but not as bad as IM in quads.  Need to inject SLOWLY AND DO NOT PINCH YOUR FLAB FIRST!  Just inject straight in.  It is not bad and there is minimal bleeding.  Nothing like the blood geysers from IM shots.  I rotate between IM and Sub Q.  To sum up:
1/2- 1 cc max per shot
Do not pinch flab before inject
inject slowly

Why do you not do the skin pinch???

[dustin]

Abdomen.  Little painful, but not as bad as IM in quads.  Need to inject SLOWLY AND DO NOT PINCH YOUR FLAB FIRST!  Just inject straight in.  It is not bad and there is minimal bleeding.  Nothing like the blood geysers from IM shots.  I rotate between IM and Sub Q.  To sum up:
1/2- 1 cc max per shot
Do not pinch flab before inject
inject slowly

Hmm... I always pinched skin except once where I still grabbed it a little so I could stabilize things.

Maybe, MAYBE I'll try another sub-q shot again. Someone else should test this though, because I've got to pin a couple mls tonight and I sure as hell won't take the time to break it up into smaller shots. I'm just going to pin and pass out after work.

[a_pupil]

what are the benefits of sub q over im for gear?

[Big Chiro Flex]

what are the benefits of sub q over im for gear?

No potential nerve damage to the muscle, less painful, way less scar tissue buildup.

We know that IM shots are not inherently good for a muscle. So this is an alternative to avoid IM.

[Dago_Joe]

Why do you not do the skin pinch???

This doctor explains it all including the not pinching thing.  I do subq injects all the time when I do TRT.  On a cycle it is a bit too much oil.  I would look like I got shot with birdshot in the gut if I tried to inject all that oil into my abdomen.  Try the subq exactly like this guy shows it. 

[Mawse]

Abdomen shots always sucked for me, especially the oblique area .. Oh em gee those fucking hurt...but the side of the hips and glutes work like a charm. You quickly learn which parts of your body have fewer nerves and surface blood vessels. I haven't felt pain in years from sub q shots now I've learned where to pin

[Big Chiro Flex]

This doctor explains it all including the not pinching thing.  I do subq injects all the time when I do TRT.  On a cycle it is a bit too much oil.  I would look like I got shot with birdshot in the gut if I tried to inject all that oil into my abdomen.  Try the subq exactly like this guy shows it.  

Fuckin a.

I think this video sold me on it.

Thanks bro!

[Kim Jong Bob]

Damn good video dago joe..thanks for that one.  The doctor was cool to "sometimes you got to man up" lol

[phreak]

I started off doing it subcutaneous 6 weeks ago. 1 CC hurted like hell every time, and left me with a very painful lump. Took 4-5 days for the pain to subside, and another week for the lump to dissipate completely.

Switching to half a CC twice per week made a big difference: much less pain (not half the pain, more like one eight of the pain), and only tiny bumps.

Then I switched to weekly IM shots at 1 CC. To be honest: so far those are by far the most tolerable. So I get the point about scarring, and that's not something I'm looking forward to, but at 1 injection per week (and rotating sites) I think I will opt for that from now on.

Now if I were using something water based, then it would be subcutaneous every time. My HCG dissipates almost instantly, and with no pain whatsoever.