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« on: December 19, 2013, 03:59:42 PM »

Al Goldstein, pornography pioneer and Screw magazine publisher, dies at 77


(CNN) -- Al Goldstein, the foul-mouthed publisher of Screw magazine and pornography pioneer who helped move raunch into mainstream American life, died Thursday in New York. He was 77.

He is believed to have died of renal failure at a nursing home in Brooklyn, said his lawyer, Charles DeStefano.

Throughout his life, Goldstein fought to push the porn trade into mainstream acceptance by challenging the legal barriers against pornography under the First Amendment.

In 1968, he published Screw magazine, a raunchy, offbeat publication full of political satire, DeStefano said.

The Brooklyn-born publisher lived life in extremes. He once enjoyed a lavish lifestyle, owned multiple properties and hobnobbed with celebrities, DeStefano said. In his later years, he lost practically everything and ended up nearly homeless in New York.

"He should be remembered as a man who had the guts to get in the face of his enemies," DeStefano said. "He was fearless."

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/19/us/porn-pioneer-al-goldstein-dies/index.html?hpt=hp_t3


Views on pornography and religion

In his book XXX-Communicated: A Rebel Without a Shul, Luke Ford writes about a conversation he had with Goldstein. During this conversation he asked Goldstein why the porn industry contained so many Jews. Goldstein answered, "The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism." Ford then asked, "What does it mean to you to be a Jew?" To which Goldstein responded, "It doesn't mean s***. It means that I'm called a ****." Ford also asked, "Do you believe in God?" Goldstein said, "I believe in me. I'm God. **** God. God is your need to believe in some super being. I am the super being. I am your God, admit it. We're random. We're the flea on the a$$ of the dog."[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Goldstein
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 11:04:41 AM »

You're a bit extreme. However, I doubt the proliferation of pornography in the last 20-30 years has made society a better place.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 11:27:42 AM »

Al Goldstein, pornography pioneer and Screw magazine publisher, dies at 77


(CNN) -- Al Goldstein, the foul-mouthed publisher of Screw magazine and pornography pioneer who helped move raunch into mainstream American life, died Thursday in New York. He was 77.

He is believed to have died of renal failure at a nursing home in Brooklyn, said his lawyer, Charles DeStefano.

Throughout his life, Goldstein fought to push the porn trade into mainstream acceptance by challenging the legal barriers against pornography under the First Amendment.

In 1968, he published Screw magazine, a raunchy, offbeat publication full of political satire, DeStefano said.

The Brooklyn-born publisher lived life in extremes. He once enjoyed a lavish lifestyle, owned multiple properties and hobnobbed with celebrities, DeStefano said. In his later years, he lost practically everything and ended up nearly homeless in New York.

"He should be remembered as a man who had the guts to get in the face of his enemies," DeStefano said. "He was fearless."

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/19/us/porn-pioneer-al-goldstein-dies/index.html?hpt=hp_t3


Views on pornography and religion

In his book XXX-Communicated: A Rebel Without a Shul, Luke Ford writes about a conversation he had with Goldstein. During this conversation he asked Goldstein why the porn industry contained so many Jews. Goldstein answered, "The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don't believe in authoritarianism." Ford then asked, "What does it mean to you to be a Jew?" To which Goldstein responded, "It doesn't mean s***. It means that I'm called a ****." Ford also asked, "Do you believe in God?" Goldstein said, "I believe in me. I'm God. **** God. God is your need to believe in some super being. I am the super being. I am your God, admit it. We're random. We're the flea on the a$$ of the dog."[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Goldstein
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2013, 02:32:31 PM »

You're a bit extreme. However, I doubt the proliferation of pornography in the last 20-30 years has made society a better place.

No I am of principle. Western society has been on a steady moral decline. Here in Canada we are slowly moving towards legalizing prostitution.

It's one thing by one thing, until people just have no morals left and everything is just about fulfilling out of control desires.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2013, 10:47:48 PM »

He got all that pussy but still lived a miserable ending.
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2013, 10:48:33 PM »

You just found out Mohammed died?
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2013, 07:59:00 AM »

No I am of principle. Western society has been on a steady moral decline. Here in Canada we are slowly moving towards legalizing prostitution.

It's one thing by one thing, until people just have no morals left and everything is just about fulfilling out of control desires.


Seems like those morally pure and clean Muslims may have more "out of control desires" than anyone else:

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Google, the world’s most popular Internet search engine, has found in a survey that mostly Muslim states seek access to sex-related websites and Pakistan tops the list. Google found that of the top 10 countries - searching for sex-related sites - six were Muslim, with Pakistan on the top. The other Muslim countries are Egypt at number 2, Iran at 4, Morocco at 5, Saudi Arabia at 7 and Turkey at 8. Non-Muslim states are Vietnam at 3, India at 6, Philippines at 9 and Poland at 10.

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Here are the Muslim countries and how they placed in the top five world ranking of various bestiality-related internet search terms:
Pig Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Egypt (No. 2) Saudi Arabia (No. 3)
Donkey Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 3) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Dog Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Saudi Arabia (No. 3)
Cat Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 2) Egypt (No. 3) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Horse Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Turkey (No. 3)
Cow Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Iran (No. 2) Saudi Arabia (No. 4)
Goat Sex: Pakistan (No. 1)
Animal Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Morocco (No. 2) Iran (No. 4) Egypt (No. 5)
Snake Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Malaysia (No. 3) Indonesia (No. 4) Egypt (No. 5)
Monkey Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Indonesia (No. 3) Malaysia (No. 4)
Bear Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Saudi Arabia (No. 2)
Elephant Sex: Pakistan (No. 1) Egypt (No. 3) United Arab Emirates (No. 4) Malaysia (No. 5)
Fox Sex: Saudi Arabia (No. 1) Turkey (No. 4)

---http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Pornography





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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2013, 08:43:10 AM »

Lol....what does the fox say...."rape, rape, rape, rape, rape, rape rape rape"
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2013, 02:20:10 PM »

RIP to a beautiful man.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2013, 04:53:44 PM »

You just found out Mohammed died?

mohammed was an illiterate pedophile
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2013, 05:01:10 PM »

No I am of principle.

I can respect that, even if I don't necessarily agree with your principles.


Western society has been on a steady moral decline.

Again with this... and on Christmas Eve!


Here in Canada we are slowly moving towards legalizing prostitution.

Can you cite specific reasons to prohibit consenting adults from having sex outside of marriage? You know...  reasons that don't include "well, I find sex smelly and icky" and "well, I don't think they should!"


It's one thing by one thing, until people just have no morals left and everything is just about fulfilling out of control desires.

Yes. Absolutely! Getting a receipt after you have sex is the first step to hell. But, hey.... even then it may be worth it if you can at least write it off as a business or medical expense!
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2013, 05:25:39 PM »

Can we ever have a discussion without islam being talked about?

I don't see the muslims talking badly of or critisizing jesus.
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2013, 05:26:17 PM »

Islam does not prohibit sex, it approves of it, celebrates it and encourages it but within the confines of marriage and within certain guidelines and principles (for example between a husband and wife, not anal sex). And we Muslims have great sex with our spouses, but outside there is that aspect of modesty, it's not to be advertised, there is modesty in dress code, etc... what is in the bedroom is in the bedroom.

Out of wedlock sex? Well women being used and abused in one night stands, wide spread STDs, single mothers, teen pregnancies, abortions, having hundreds of 'partners', just some things to mention. People suffer and society suffers even if people see nothing wrong with these things.

People may not understand this, but that's our standpoint.
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2013, 08:03:02 PM »

Can we ever have a discussion without islam being talked about?

I don't see the muslims talking badly of or critisizing jesus.

No, they (Muslims) just persecute Christians and spread calumny about Judaism. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2013, 08:10:50 PM »

No, they (Muslims) just persecute Christians and spread calumny about Judaism. 

Where in this thread is there talk about Christians?
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« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2013, 08:18:06 PM »

No, they (Muslims) just persecute Christians and spread calumny about Judaism.  

Ahmed in his original post didn't attack Judaism , he attacked the concept of pornography.

Plus maybe go read the original post, the jew the said that jesus sucks.

So why the hate on the muslims when the above jew hates jesus and christinaity? Where is his criticism of his views?

Of course lets not talk about his view, lets turn it into a muslim bashing thread.
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2013, 08:21:30 PM »

It's common knowledge that many Arabs/Muslims are very awkward with women.
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2013, 08:47:15 PM »

Islam does not prohibit sex, it approves of it, celebrates it and encourages it but within the confines of marriage and within certain guidelines and principles (for example between a husband and wife, not anal sex). And we Muslims have great sex with our spouses, but outside there is that aspect of modesty, it's not to be advertised, there is modesty in dress code, etc... what is in the bedroom is in the bedroom.

I'm all for that, but it's funny that you would say this, especially since you advocate for regulating what happens in people's bedroom conditional on them having the right paperwork (in this case being married). There's a word for that sort of thing you know.


Well women being used and abused in one night stands

See, here's your problem. You don't think of women as equals, capable of making their own decisions and controlling their life and, coincidentally, their vaginas. You think that they require you to protect them and make decisions for them. You believe that a woman that chooses to have sex outside of the parameters that you define as acceptable doesn't really decide it and, unknowingly, is being "used and abused." And you believe that your particular religious beliefs entitle you to regulate other people's lives.

In other words, when you say "what is in the bedroom is in the bedroom" you don't really mean it.


wide spread STDs

Marriage doesn't magically innoculate you against sexually-transmitted diseases. Condoms, on the other hand, offer pretty good protection for most kinds of sexually-transmitted diseases. Not perfect and not against all of them, but still better than casting "Magical shield of virtue (+50 immunity)" pardon me, I meant marriage.


single mothers

Strawman: mothers can end up single regardless of their marital status during sex.


teen pregnancies

So instead of telling teenagers that they should not have sex until they're ready, and educating them on topics like birth control and prevention of sexually-transmitted diseases, what we should do is tell them "don't have sex because the magical sky creature wants you to be a virgin." That seems like a perfectly reasonable approach that will definitely work.


abortions

Because abortions never happen after you're married... Is your name Todd Akin?


having hundreds of 'partners'

Yes... the average woman has hundreds of partners. Roll Eyes Give me a break.

But even if you were only talking about prostitutes, so what? What do you care how many partners a woman has? You aren't going to bed with her, since she's not your wife.


People suffer and society suffers even if people see nothing wrong with these things.

I see nothing wrong with consenting adults being able to decide how to mush their privates together. I see everything wrong with letting you (or anyone else) control the sex lives of consenting adults.


People may not understand this, but that's our standpoint.

I understand it perfectly find. I just find your "standpoint" to be puritanical and, maybe even hypocritical. I also don't see why your standpoint on this topic should matter at all. Why should anyone (except, perhaps, your wife) care what your standpoint is on private sexual conduct between consenting adults?
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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2013, 09:39:44 PM »

Ahmed in his original post didn't attack Judaism , he attacked the concept of pornography.

Plus maybe go read the original post, the jew the said that jesus sucks.

So why the hate on the muslims when the above jew hates jesus and christinaity? Where is his criticism of his views?

Of course lets not talk about his view, lets turn it into a muslim bashing thread.

As we used to say back in the day, you can dish it out fine, but you can't take it.  

Every single one of Ahmed's threads in this particular discussion board is about how perfect and wonderful Islam is and how depraved and degenerate everyone else is.  

You don't think that there are Muslim pornographers as contemptible as any other?  You think people on this board are absolute fools?  No one swallows your utter bullshit.

And of course Ahmed enjoys life in a civilized, Western, non-Muslim country.  Where there is freedom of speech, religion, and where women are not treated as chattels.  And I'll just bet he has availed himself of the wares he condemns.   I'll also bet Muslims were among some of Goldstein's best customers.

Just a dash of hypocrisy there.

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« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2013, 03:48:54 AM »

Ahmed in his original post didn't attack Judaism , he attacked the concept of pornography.

Plus maybe go read the original post, the jew the said that jesus sucks.

So why the hate on the muslims when the above jew hates jesus and christinaity? Where is his criticism of his views?

Of course lets not talk about his view, lets turn it into a muslim bashing thread.

Hi, Ahmed.
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« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2013, 04:16:29 AM »

Hi, Ahmed.


ha ha idiot.

Im from Australia, ahmed is from Canada.
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