Andre Agassi - bench press claims...

[Mr Nobody]

Exactly.  I've been saying the same thing throughout the thread.  Yet someone has to chime in that we just dont know elite athletes. I guess by their estimation everbody who plays a pro sport is a monster in the gym.

Fact is the majority of "skill" arhletes I have lifted around were underwhelming on raw lifts. Which is understandable since they are mire interested in mastering the skills if their sport. 

This ^.

[TrueGrit]

I have finally realised that I don't care what the bald fuck bench presses. It took me 7 pages but I got there.

[temple_of_dis]

I am currently reading his book ''Open'' (which is very good by the way) but i have to take issue with his claims about his lifting. He claims that he was bench pressing twice his bodyweight, five to seven sets of over 300LBS.... I call bullshit on this...

Thoughts?

maybe armenian weights are in different units

[Man of Steel]

Exactly.  I've been saying the same thing throughout the thread.  Yet someone has to chime in that we just dont know elite athletes. I guess by their estimation everbody who plays a pro sport is a monster in the gym.

Fact is the majority of "skill" arhletes I have lifted around were underwhelming on raw lifts. Which is understandable since they are mire interested in mastering the skills if their sport.  

Exactly, you may be the greatest parkour athlete in the world, but that don't mean you have an easy 350 bench because you're super conditioned for parkour......or tennis......or gymnastics........or basketball......or swimming.

I'm not sayin that no non-strength athletes aren't conditioned for their sport and have a superb bench.....I'm just sayin the vast majority don't have a big bench.

[Cleanest Natural]

Well, most of the stuff about Agassi were lies .. in reality he was incredibly talented but could not capitalize on his skills because he was on meth, partied, too much distraction around him etc... Pete did not do meth and he won double his total of slams  

Agassi, and our own romanian Nastase were two of the most gifted tennis players ever .. and Federer.

[Beefjake]

Poor Andre.  Pushed into playing a sport to make millions and marry a superhot wife.  Oh the humanity!

Can't argue.

What about Williamses? They weren't even close to middle class to begin with I belive?

[cephissus]

Why not? He has enough muscles to do that, you don't have to be a beast to bench press 300lbs.



One of best olympic lifters in history, bench press 230kg at his best, now he is retired and still can bench press 200kg.

1:17 best olympic lifter in history, stronger in deadlift/squat than anyone on this website and considering his 240kg jerk he can keep up with everyone in the bench press.

klokov is the best olympic lifter in history?

did I miss something

[The Abdominal Snoman]

i never seen these naturals benching that.

very reare and then theyd be very fat.

315 for clean slow full rom reps is enough to build heavyweight competitor phyqisue, with plenty drugs ofc,

nah i dont see naturals doing this.
well,i dont see many naturals period,eevryone on something.

me now natty, i dont even come close

I'm not talking bodybuilding type physiques but just guys who lift weights...There's a few in my gym. But not the slow pause type reps and these guys aren't the bodybuilder type...But they do 315 for reps and have not really gotten any stronger or weaker for years. However if they miss a few weeks of benching, their bench will drop. Also they are probably between the bodyweight of 5-9 to 6'2 210-240ish and 15 to 20% bodyfat...

[deceiver]

klokov is the best olympic lifter in history?

did I miss something

I meant Ilya Ilin, on the left. BTW Ilya is stronger than Klokov XD

[Sherief Shalaby]

Yes .. he came back after his beer belly/meth phase fit and strong and dominated .. for the first time in his career he was really fit like a real athlete .. I do believe he did a single .. people forget that our very own Sherief Shalaby did 315X1 at 170lbs and he was natural. So Agassi all juiced up I believe ..

brother i was 152 pounds (69 kilos) when i bench pressed 140 kilos (309 pounds) for one rep.. when i was 76 kilos i did it for 3 reps this year on the flat and 4 reps on the decline.. now i am 71 kilos (158 pounds) and can do the same weight for one good rep..

[SilverSpoon]

On backround and pressure:

I've understood that father Williams teached his girls to play on his own.
Never really studied it. Did they go to one of these tennis academies or do
colleges have tennis programs and scholarships for it?
I mean that he was their coach at the start but after that, pros took over?
Anyway, didn't Williams's have a poor backround?

One of the most striking points in Agassis book is the pressure his dad put on him.
Barely teen, he made Andre play for all family savings against proven adult non-pro.
And like he says, he didn't even want to play in the first place. Later, after he basically
quit, made a strong second half of a career because he wanted to.

Venus was being coached by Rick Macci since age 11, I believe.  All on scholarship.

Rick saw Serena walking on her hands behind the court while he was teaching Venus, and he predicted that she would be the better tennis player, and was more talented.  He said this long before either were very successful.

[Cleanest Natural]

brother i was 152 pounds (69 kilos) when i bench pressed 140 kilos (309 pounds) for one rep.. when i was 76 kilos i did it for 3 reps this year on the flat and 4 reps on the decline.. now i am 71 kilos (158 pounds) and can do the same weight for one good rep..

Even more impressive.

[arce1988]

Agassi, and our own romanian Nastase, were two of the most gifted tennis players ever ... and Federer.

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