Utah Is on Track to End Homelessness

[whork]

Utah Is on Track to End Homelessness by 2015 With This One Simple Idea
Give them an apartment first, ask questions later.
Utah has reduced its rate of chronic homelessness by 78 percent over the past eight years, moving 2000 people off the street and putting the state on track to eradicate homelessness altogether by 2015. How’d they do it? The state is giving away apartments, no strings attached. In 2005, Utah calculated the annual cost of E.R. visits and jail stays for an average homeless person was $16,670, while the cost of providing an apartment and social worker would be $11,000. Each participant works with a caseworker to become self-sufficient, but if they fail, they still get to keep their apartment.

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Other states are eager to emulate Utah’s results. Wyoming has seen its homeless population more than double in the past three years, and it only provides shelter for 26 percent of them, the lowest rate in the country. City officials in Casper, Wyoming, now plan to launch a pilot program using the methods of Utah’s Housing First program. There’s no telling how far the idea might go.

[doison]

They should give them a car and ab xbox too. 

[temple_of_dis]

Utah Is on Track to End Homelessness by 2015 With This One Simple Idea
Give them an apartment first, ask questions later.
Utah has reduced its rate of chronic homelessness by 78 percent over the past eight years, moving 2000 people off the street and putting the state on track to eradicate homelessness altogether by 2015. How’d they do it? The state is giving away apartments, no strings attached. In 2005, Utah calculated the annual cost of E.R. visits and jail stays for an average homeless person was $16,670, while the cost of providing an apartment and social worker would be $11,000. Each participant works with a caseworker to become self-sufficient, but if they fail, they still get to keep their apartment.

MORE: San Francisco’s homeless take free showers on a bus retrofitted with bathrooms

Other states are eager to emulate Utah’s results. Wyoming has seen its homeless population more than double in the past three years, and it only provides shelter for 26 percent of them, the lowest rate in the country. City officials in Casper, Wyoming, now plan to launch a pilot program using the methods of Utah’s Housing First program. There’s no telling how far the idea might go.

why do people who produce nothing get an apartment paid for by money taken from people liek me?

[doison]

why do people who produce nothing get an apartment paid for by money taken from people liek me?

Because it costs more not to give them an apartment. 

[whork]

Because it costs more not to give them an apartment. 

Hard to argue with the results here.

[temple_of_dis]

Because it costs more not to give them an apartment. 

thats a lie

it costs 0 to give them 0

[whork]

thats a lie

it costs 0 to give them 0

Can you read:


In 2005, Utah calculated the annual cost of E.R. visits and jail stays for an average homeless person was $16,670, while the cost of providing an apartment and social worker would be $11,000

[chadstallion]

Can you read:


In 2005, Utah calculated the annual cost of E.R. visits and jail stays for an average homeless person was $16,670, while the cost of providing an apartment and social worker would be $11,000

there you go again ( Ronald Reagan )
quoting facts.

Or, as The Bookworm told Batman/ Robin, "Facts are stubborn things"

[Archer77]

That's not really solving homelessness, it's only lowering the cost.  You still have a group of people who can't support themselves.

[GigantorX]

That's not really solving homelessness, it's only lowering the cost.  You still have a group of people who can't support themselves.

Bingo. Still destitute, still mentally ill, still addicted to drugs and still not producing anything.

But hey, they get a free apartment and "cost less" to support....

[headhuntersix]

So a worthless piece of shit is costing the Utah tax payer between 11-15 K? Do they require them to work? Let me guess..

[Jack T. Cross]

Should turn this into a situation that employs people a certain amount for their "apartment" (in reality, most places that do this are only putting people into a single room WITHOUT bathroom, kitchen, etc., so it barely qualifies as an apartment). Those that are serious and capable can be allotted more hours to start saving money to lead a more comfortable life.

Fact is, people want to be successful and they want to be respected. If they're out in the cold, however, they will lose the ability to strive for that. That's what we're seeing.

[headhuntersix]

None of which is my problem. If people feel so inclined they can donate time or money to these people. At the very least the taxpayer should be compensated for thier tax dollars. Public works projects..simple stuff like trash pick up in parks etc. Fresh paint, mowed grass....

[Jack T. Cross]

None of which is my problem. If people feel so inclined they can donate time or money to these people. At the very least the taxpayer should be compensated for thier tax dollars. Public works projects..simple stuff like trash pick up in parks etc. Fresh paint, mowed grass....

Absolutely. Myself, I'd have no problem if it gradually replaced the gang of overpaid, under-producing people we currently have holding most government jobs.

[headhuntersix]

Its human nature. I'm military but have civilians under me. They can get bonuses and various prizes, time off etc. The process to do this or get my folks this stuff is near on impossible. The friggen bureaucracy under which the gov operates on all levels is ludicris.

[Jack T. Cross]

Yes, bro. It cannot stand.

[whork]

That's not really solving homelessness, it's only lowering the cost.  You still have a group of people who can't support themselves.

If you give people a home they are no longer homeless so that is solved actually.

No argument about the second part.

[Mawse]

So if they have an apartment they no longer abuse drugs, use the er for free healthcare or commit crimes?

Genius  

Maybe we should give every illegal alien and urban youth a free apartment too.. Oh wait, here in ca we DO

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

That's not really solving homelessness, it's only lowering the cost.  You still have a group of people who can't support themselves.

Its much easier for a person to find a job if they have a place to live so they can shower, clean up, and look presentable for an interview.

[Necrosis]

That's not really solving homelessness, it's only lowering the cost.  You still have a group of people who can't support themselves.

Oh it solves the homelessness, you mean the poverty?

They are receiving a home= negates homelessness.

Kids and babies can't support themselves, should be kill them with fire?

[doison]

Oh it solves the homelessness, you mean the poverty?

They are receiving a home= negates homelessness.

Kids and babies can't support themselves, should be kill them with fire?

We should support all people who can't work, don't earn enough money, or would rather play video games.

[loco]

Its much easier for a person to find a job if they have a place to live so they can shower, clean up, and look presentable for an interview.

Yes, that's right.  It's much easier for a person to find a job if they have a vehicle too.  So let's give them free vehicles and free gas as well.  While we are giving away free stuff, throw in a free computer and free internet service too.  They can't find a job without a free computer and free internet service.

[Archer77]

Oh it solves the homelessness, you mean the poverty?

They are receiving a home= negates homelessness.

Kids and babies can't support themselves, should be kill them with fire?

It's semantics.  I'd like to see what the long term success rate is.  How many of these individuals become self sufficient. It doesn't address the cost of mental health care or substance abuse treatment, a major reason for homelessness.  

[temple_of_dis]

there is 1 way to get people of welfare success 100%

end it

work or starve baby!!

motivation!

[Archer77]

there is 1 way to get people of welfare success 100%

end it

work or starve baby!!

motivation!

Even children?