Did Dorian retire just before "Palumboism" had a chance to set in?

[Natural Beast]

hahahahhaha

man i got lots of fun reading your stupid post why u got so mad bro? why u get offended so much? i may not have so much experience with hormone usage like u.. u claim that i know nothing about hormones and im a 165 lbs "beast" with 15 inch arms just because i didnt believe u... thats so childish man.. grow the fuck up..

anyone on this board who has seen my before and after pics know where i came from im not the biggest but im not the biggest user also... i try to get under 8% with minimal drugs and than i will start my preparation for my first competition ever... i hope u will remember your words when u see my upcoming photos in coming months..

[MisterMagoo]

u got me wrong

of course they could be talkin openly about drugs back then.. but none of the pros would tell their exact cycle and how much they used.. none of them!! nowadays u see some retired pros like yates or levrone tell their "supposedly" cycles but do we believe them? of course not... so why should i believe this retard about how much milos and nasser used? and they talk about it with him when he was 17 years old... LOL

I don't mean they saiid what kinda stuff was in a cycle, I mean they said exactly what the cycles were, what brands, when and how much it cost. and they were HUGE cycles. not that Yates post retirement bullshit. they even explained how Dillet fucked up his diuretics that time he seized up on stage.

[Shockwave]

I don't mean they saiid what kinda stuff was in a cycle, I mean they said exactly what the cycles were, what brands, when and how much it cost. and they were HUGE cycles. not that Yates post retirement bullshit. they even explained how Dillet fucked up his diuretics that time he seized up on stage.

I vaguely remember that. I was just learning about lifting so that chemical stuff didnt interest me.

is any of that infor still around? Itd be interesting to see it now that I know a little more.

[ESFitness]

hahahahhaha

man i got lots of fun reading your stupid post why u got so mad bro? why u get offended so much? i may not have so much experience with hormone usage like u.. u claim that i know nothing about hormones and im a 165 lbs "beast" with 15 inch arms just because i didnt believe u... thats so childish man.. grow the fuck up..

anyone on this board who has seen my before and after pics know where i came from im not the biggest but im not the biggest user also... i try to get under 8% with minimal drugs and than i will start my preparation for my first competition ever... i hope u will remember your words when u see my upcoming photos in coming months..

don't worry, I won't.

biggest user doesn't equal biggest guy.

you're a skinny nobody, and you'll always be a skinny nobody.

you're 8%? I hope so, because 165lbs at 10% should be embarrassing.

[MisterMagoo]

I vaguely remember that. I was just learning about lifting so that chemical stuff didnt interest me.

is any of that infor still around? Itd be interesting to see it now that I know a little more.

i have no idea if it got archived. mayhem went down ages ago and i have no clue if any of it is saved. i just remember it was a huge thread that was MOSTLY between chad and milos, but nasser and others popped in as well. if i'm not mistaken, chick or tom or someone even said "guys you might not wanna be doing this".

ah, those old days. hell i think i'm one of the few here who actually saw tom prince's famous 230 lb claim (spoiler: he never said what everyone claims).

[old-school-lifter]

nasser should have had that one mr. o

agreed

Nasser was the best that day
he matched yates from the back poses and was dominating in the side and front poses
Dorian shaded Nasser in 1 pose- the back double biceps
everything else nasser clearly superior

[dyslexic]

Did you have to call him "Dyslexic?" ...... damn!

 

[Grape Ape]

agreed

Nasser was the best that day
he matched yates from the back poses and was dominating in the side and front poses
Dorian shaded Nasser in 1 pose- the back double biceps
everything else nasser clearly superior

He didn't match Yates from the back or the side.

[Mr.1derful]

agreed

Nasser was the best that day
he matched yates from the back poses and was dominating in the side and front poses
Dorian shaded Nasser in 1 pose- the back double biceps
everything else nasser clearly superior

Nasser matched Yates from the back and dominated from the side?  Not likely.

[Shockwave]

he matched yates from the back poses and was dominating in the side and front poses

Credibility lost.

He was not anywhere near Dorian from the back, and only marginally from the side.

Nasser took the FBD, A&T, and arguably the side chest IMHO.
He lost the RDB, RLS, FLS, Side Tri, and all the quarter turns (Front may be arguable)

Even if we give him the FDB, A&T, Side Chest, and Front 1/4, He still loses 6-4. And thats being generous. He literally had no back next to Yates.

[hardgainerj]

Nasser matched Yates from the back and dominated from the side?  Not likely.

yates reacted better to diuretics

[Mr Nobody]

Dorian looks small right there.

[Mr.1derful]

yates reacted better to diuretics

Yates was the most intense and regimented bodybuilder on earth.  Nasser was the Gary Strydom of his era and ultimately, took the low road with synthol abuse.  And if I recall, it was Nasser who got DQ'd for diuretics a year prior in '96, losing his 3rd place spot.  Yates claims to have not used them that year, passed the test, and still dominated.

[hardgainerj]

Yates was the most intense and regimented bodybuilder on earth.  Nasser was the Gary Strydom of his era and ultimately, took the low road with synthol abuse.  And if I recall, it was Nasser who got DQ'd for diuretics a year prior in '96, losing his 3rd place spot.  Yates claims to have not used them that year, passed the test, and still dominated.

his intensity contributed to many of his injuries

[ESFitness]

i have no idea if it got archived. mayhem went down ages ago and i have no clue if any of it is saved. i just remember it was a huge thread that was MOSTLY between chad and milos, but nasser and others popped in as well. if i'm not mistaken, chick or tom or someone even said "guys you might not wanna be doing this".

ah, those old days. hell i think i'm one of the few here who actually saw tom prince's famous 230 lb claim (spoiler: he never said what everyone claims).

I saw all that stuff.

that discussion happened about years after I'd spoken with milos and Nasser about their opinions on insulin.

I didn't speak with them at the same time. it was separately and I don't believe I mentioned one to the other.

wasn't till years later that I'd heard Nasser had been working with milos, even though he denied it.. so that'd explain why the initial 'protocol's they went over were similar.

both their advice to me was similar. I was clear I already had insulin and was going to use it. I'd mentioned what I was using at the time and what I'd planned on doing in the future.

neither gave me any 'lecture'. I wasn't exactly a little punk kid with 6 months of 'working out' under my belt.

milos went into more detail as to why you're doing what you're doing and when, ect.. I think milos just liked to talk to people who would listen and ask informed questions.

Nasser said 'well, since you will never be on stage against me or be a threat to me, I will tell you this and I will help you', or something very similar... along with later explaining that he and other pro's had 'reached their maximum' with steroids many years ago, and the only thing that helps them continue to grow was gh. (years later after hearing things about milos, I find it odd he didn't say "gh AND insulin" since Nasser was a hyper-responder to insulin).

[ESFitness]

Yates was the most intense and regimented bodybuilder on earth.  Nasser was the Gary Strydom of his era and ultimately, took the low road with synthol abuse.  And if I recall, it was Nasser who got DQ'd for diuretics a year prior in '96, losing his 3rd place spot.  Yates claims to have not used them that year, passed the test, and still dominated.

I think dorian said he used a diuretic that wasn't on the list.

[Mr.1derful]

his intensity contributed to many of his injuries

As well as his 6 Sandows.  

[Mr.1derful]

I think dorian said he used a diuretic that wasn't on the list.

Don't think so.

[ESFitness]

Nasser matched Yates from the back and dominated from the side?  Not likely.

that's gotta be '96.. with jp fux in the back.

top pic the black guy looks like Ronnie, but the next one down looks like shawn ray (both in blue trunks)

[Shockwave]

that's gotta be '96.. with jp fux in the back.

top pic the black guy looks like Ronnie, but the next one down looks like shawn ray (both in blue trunks)

Its 97.

[galeniko]

I don't mean they saiid what kinda stuff was in a cycle, I mean they said exactly what the cycles were, what brands, when and how much it cost. and they were HUGE cycles. not that Yates post retirement bullshit. they even explained how Dillet fucked up his diuretics that time he seized up on stage.

lol,is there a link to that thread?

my goodness what a bitch ass move from the flex editor.what a pussy

[falco]

In the above pics Dorian dominated. If Nasser cried about being robbed then he was a crying bitch.

[MisterMagoo]

lol,is there a link to that thread?

my goodness what a bitch ass move from the flex editor.what a pussy

man i wish. but after mayhem got nuked everything went kapoof. so unless one of the old heads around here (as in back in the days when the x board was a big deal) saved it somewhere it's probably lost forever. 

that was back in the glory days of BB boards. when pros and drug gurus posted on the regular and once in a while a goddamn war started up. i remember REALLY specifically from the thread a story milos told about how nasser and chad intentionally misled another "nutritionist" into completely fucking up his guy's pre-contest prep and then laughing about it. we talk now about how bodybuilding is all drugs, but that was the thread that proved it. as epic as a lot of threads have been over the years, there's really nothing that touches the day milos, chad, and nasser blew the doors open.

[Shockwave]

man i wish. but after mayhem got nuked everything went kapoof. so unless one of the old heads around here (as in back in the days when the x board was a big deal) saved it somewhere it's probably lost forever. 

that was back in the glory days of BB boards. when pros and drug gurus posted on the regular and once in a while a goddamn war started up. i remember REALLY specifically from the thread a story milos told about how nasser and chad intentionally misled another "nutritionist" into completely fucking up his guy's pre-contest prep and then laughing about it. we talk now about how bodybuilding is all drugs, but that was the thread that proved it. as epic as a lot of threads have been over the years, there's really nothing that touches the day milos, chad, and nasser blew the doors open.

just shows you the kind of people this industry attracts. .. who the fuck intentionally fucks a guy up and then laughs about it?

[galeniko]

just shows you the kind of people this industry attracts. .. who the fuck intentionally fucks a guy up and then laughs about it?

man, i know of some contest prep guru assholes, who cather to the gullible, and wil only tell them how and what if they use their services and buy their heavily overpriced bunk gear.

the ones who play most important are the biggest assholes.

on the other hand, theres some very good people who will tell you in 20minutes everything you need to know, assuming you got a knowlege foundation.

i have seen some dumb ass athletes literaly being addicted to their ripoff gurus, ie on their own they dont know what the fuck to do, totaly confused.

this is ridiculous, bc all the way until one maxes out on steroids, theres no much special stuff to know.

after that comes small gh dose, this is manageable on one self too.

after that things get complicated indeed.nobody sane in their head should go to this stage anyway.

one example is our "disgusted", he will tell you a quick summary for free anytime,and hes right there one of the best.