New ObamaCare taxes about to hit everyone.

[dario73]

The fact that people under $250k are being burdened with more taxes is lost on the liberal idiots that have posted on this thread.


I have lost count of all the lies the clowninchief has said.

[Soul Crusher]

The fact that people under $250k are being burdened with more taxes is lost on the liberal idiots that have posted on this thread.


I have lost count of all the lies the clowninchief has said.

They don't care - to these worthless scumbags - ends justify the means on the march to communism

[bears]

Just face it you are not succesful enough to live in the US. Your services are not required and nobody wants to pay for them.

You must be the lowest paid lawyer ever. Where do you work?

FACT.  taxes have gone up for EVERYONE. not just the wealthy.  Obama can say he didn't raise taxes on anyone making under $250,000.  why?  because he didn't increase the tax rates on taxable income less than $250,000 in the tax tables. 

he did however, decrease thresholds and phaseout amounts for people making less than $250,000.  so he didn't change the tax tables for people making less than $250,000 but people making less than $250,000 are going to have to pay more in federal taxes.  this is all politician mumbo jumbo meant to prey upon ignorant people like you who only want to believe what they want to believe.  it's sad and disturbing.

i'm running into less and less people like you every day simply because most people are smart enough to catch on after 5 years of this shit.  everyone with half a brain nowadays knows that the "no increase in taxes for people making less than $250,000" is not true.

[whork]

I dont give a shit what Obama said and neither do you.

Its peanuts stop whining.

[Soul Crusher]

I dont give a shit what Obama said and neither do you.

Its peanuts stop whining.

Mentality of a vandal.   

[whork]

Mentality of a vandal.   

And you have the mentality of a cheap ass living on the bottom of society.

Get a job or education and stop whining. Its peanuts.

And dont tell the lie that you are a lawyer anymore.

With the economic finances you have you must be working at Mcdonalds. And then you come on this board acting conservative. You are a joke.

[bears]

I dont give a shit what Obama said and neither do you.

Its peanuts stop whining.

the government, when attempting to squeeze as much money from the populace as possible, never comes at them with an ax, they slice away little by little so asshats like you vote with your heartstrings and forgive the next 1-2%, every time, time after time.  that's why in Illinois sales tax is almost 10% now.  that's why we have the highest taxes in the country.......and somehow we have the biggest deficit.  go figure.

[whork]

the government, when attempting to squeeze as much money from the populace as possible, never comes at them with an ax, they slice away little by little so asshats like you vote with your heartstrings and forgive the next 1-2%, every time, time after time.  that's why in Illinois sales tax is almost 10% now.  that's why we have the highest taxes in the country.......and somehow we have the biggest deficit.  go figure.

Its peanuts we are talking about here and it used to give more health care to more people.

You get a lot for a small price.

You claim to be a business man. You should know a good deal when you see one. But your voluntary indoctrination blinds you.

[bears]

Its peanuts we are talking about here and it used to give more health care to more people.

You get a lot for a small price.

You claim to be a business man. You should know a good deal when you see one. But your voluntary indoctrination blinds you.

first off.  it's always peanuts that's my point. 

second. how in the fuck do you know its going to be used for other peoples health care?  you implicitly trust the US government to efficiently allocate all of this money?

third.  how do you figure we're going to get a lot for a small price?  taxes are going up across the board.  that means costs are going up across the board.

you've proven that you know NOTHING about VERY basic economics.  stop posting ridiculous shit.  you sound like a wet behind the ear college kid.

[bears]

Its peanuts we are talking about here and it used to give more health care to more people.

You get a lot for a small price.

You claim to be a business man. You should know a good deal when you see one. But your voluntary indoctrination blinds you.

you nor I have enough information from the Obama administration on this to make an educated decision on this being a "good deal".  you're just saying that because you've chosen to not be an informed voter but rather an Obama cheerleader.  so fucking ridiculous.  a "good deal" when I see one?  I've heard about enough ridiculous things for one day.

[Soul Crusher]

Whork is a typical obama dildo and useful idiot.  Gets his talking points from obama.com and nothng els.  Typical of a commie

[bears]

Whork is a typical obama dildo and useful idiot.  Gets his talking points from obama.com and nothng els.  Typical of a commie

it's the implicit trust in the government to accomplish what a for profit company cannot that really gets to me.  it's been drilled into his head for so long that the government are the "good guys" and the corporations are the "bad guys" that he thinks that good intentions alone will accomplish everything.  that the liberal media's message in a nutshell.  "give US all of your money.  we'll make sure we take care of everyone".   people like whork believe that if we just get rid of the "bad guys" everything will be OK.  its a simplistic, childish, belief that's easily sold on young liberals who never had to work for their money.  I wish it were that easy.

[whork]

the government, when attempting to squeeze as much money from the populace as possible, never comes at them with an ax, they slice away little by little so asshats like you vote with your heartstrings and forgive the next 1-2%, every time, time after time.  that's why in Illinois sales tax is almost 10% now.  that's why we have the highest taxes in the country.......and somehow we have the biggest deficit.  go figure.

I live in country with 50-70% taxes.

Do your whining elsewhere.

[whork]

first off.  it's always peanuts that's my point. 

second. how in the fuck do you know its going to be used for other peoples health care?  you implicitly trust the US government to efficiently allocate all of this money?

third.  how do you figure we're going to get a lot for a small price?  taxes are going up across the board.  that means costs are going up across the board.

you've proven that you know NOTHING about VERY basic economics.  stop posting ridiculous shit.  you sound like a wet behind the ear college kid.

Its peanuts and its used to at least try to fix an expensive and uneffective system.


Please explain the basic economics bit all i hear from you is "government bad". Lets hear it. Why is the old system so expensive and why is this a bad fix?

[whork]

you nor I have enough information from the Obama administration on this to make an educated decision on this being a "good deal".  you're just saying that because you've chosen to not be an informed voter but rather an Obama cheerleader.  so fucking ridiculous.  a "good deal" when I see one?  I've heard about enough ridiculous things for one day.

Can you not easily afford paying the numbers Soulcrusher posted?

If no you got problems.

If not its peanuts so if it just marginally works it will be a good deal.

[whork]

it's the implicit trust in the government to accomplish what a for profit company cannot that really gets to me.  it's been drilled into his head for so long that the government are the "good guys" and the corporations are the "bad guys" that he thinks that good intentions alone will accomplish everything.  that the liberal media's message in a nutshell.  "give US all of your money.  we'll make sure we take care of everyone".   people like whork believe that if we just get rid of the "bad guys" everything will be OK.  its a simplistic, childish, belief that's easily sold on young liberals who never had to work for their money.  I wish it were that easy.

This is funny.

How many years do you reckon you had the idea that government = bad , profit company = good  drilled into your head?

The old system was shit and expensive and besides the new one doesnt cut out the profit companies. You pride yourself to be a knowledgeble man but it doesnt show. Do your homework.

[bears]

Its peanuts and its used to at least try to fix an expensive and uneffective system.


Please explain the basic economics bit all i hear from you is "government bad". Lets hear it. Why is the old system so expensive and why is this a bad fix?

I've NEVER said "government is bad".  government is essential.  we need government.  I am NOT an anarchist.  

the government is going to have just as hard a time meeting cash flow needs and sticking to their annual budgets as Blue Cross/Blue Shield is.  The problem I have with the government becoming a health insurance company is that they have a never ending pool of money to draw from if they fuck it up........us.

just another 1% next year, and the year after that another 2%.  you know...peanuts.  year after year.....after year....after year.

[bears]

This is funny.

How many years do you reckon you had the idea that government = bad , profit company = good  drilled into your head?

The old system was shit and expensive and besides the new one doesnt cut out the profit companies. You pride yourself to be a knowledgeble man but it doesnt show. Do your homework.

LOL!  sooner or later you're going to have to base your idiotic assertions off of something better then "the old system doesn't work".

[whork]

I've NEVER said "government is bad".  government is essential.  we need government.  I am NOT an anarchist.  

the government is going to have just as hard a time meeting cash flow needs and sticking to their annual budgets as Blue Cross/Blue Shield is.  The problem I have with the government becoming a health insurance company is that they have a never ending pool of money to draw from if they fuck it up........us.

just another 1% next year, and the year after that another 2%.  you know...peanuts.  year after year.....after year....after year.

They havent cut out the middleman, the health insurance companies (that a shame IMO) but it seems that you think they have. Can you clarify this?

[whork]

LOL!  sooner or later you're going to have to base your idiotic assertions off of something better then "the old system doesn't work".

Even though the US have the most costly healthcare many people are not even covered.

Great system.

The peanuts you will be forced to pay may correct this but as the unresponsible person you are you will probably just let it sail and leave the bill to others. You hate liberals but honestly you display the worst qualities the stereotyped liberal possess. Go figure.

Bears you come on here as mighty business man claiming we libs dont know shit but honestly you are being quite exposed here. Your overall knowledge about the state of healthcare leaves a great deal to be desired.



http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/10/health-costs-how-the-us-compares-with-other-countries.html


http://people.howstuffworks.com/why-pursue-health-reform1.htm


http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2013/09/us-health-care/

[tonymctones]

They havent cut out the middleman, the health insurance companies (that a shame IMO) but it seems that you think they have. Can you clarify this?

you do know that the govt has insured the health insurance companies against loss due to this shit sandwich they are forcing on us right?

[whork]

you do know that the govt has insured the health insurance companies against loss due to this shit sandwich they are forcing on us right?

You already have the worlds biggest shit-sandwich look at the post above.

And you love big business so this should make you happy, no?

[tonymctones]

You already have the worlds biggest shit-sandwich look at the post above.

And you love big business so this should make you happy, no?

I see so b/c the old system wasnt perfect we had to make it worse...typical libtard mentality...

[Coach is Back!]

I live in country with 50-70% taxes.

Do your whining elsewhere.

The wealthy here are at about 60%. Including ALL taxes as a whole I'm at about 50% as with many on here. Maybe you're just happy getting by in life or you inherited money. Like many I started from NOTHING, not a loan, no borrowing from family and NEVER took a dime from the government so I take what this guy is doing personally. To this day that loser works a fraction of what I do today the difference is, he steals for his money, I work proudly for mine. The problem is, you don't understand it's just not another few bucks a month, it's what he's doing as a whole trying to mickle and dime us into being government dependants.

[whork]

The wealthy here are at about 60%. Including ALL taxes as a whole I'm at about 50% as with many on here. Maybe you're just happy getting by in life or you inherited money. Like many I started from NOTHING, not a loan, no borrowing from family and NEVER took a dime from the government so I take what this guy is doing personally. To this day that loser works a fraction of what I do today the difference is, he steals for his money, I work proudly for mine. The problem is, you don't understand it's just not another few bucks a month, it's what he's doing as a whole trying to mickle and dime us into being government dependants.

I dont see 60% anywhere

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States



Yes Obama wants to enslave you by health insurance. Great plan