Why do people think gear was better before?

[NotMrAverage]

I've been around from all pharma grade (and yes, there were still lot's of fakes!) to now when it's mostly underground. I think gear these days are better! just find a good lab... In the 90:ies we had test, dbol, deca, winstrol and some primo. Prices were about the same... I could only dream of getting tren, mast, halo...even eq would be impossible since i live in europe. I trained hard for years, ate good etc but kept drugs easy and stayed on 1g test. Was a bloated mess most of the time. Now I train more infrequent, all or nothing kind of...not like my life depend on it year round. If i get some good tren and add something to it, gains are much much better. As far as gh we had genotropin at dreamless prices. Now i atleast can afford some hygetropin if i would want to. I wonder if people who think the past was so great even was there? I've been around national competitors the whole time. Tren is gods gift to bb...

[galeniko]

just find a good lab.

sure.

how about have it chemicaly tested in a laboratory?


its very simple, the raw powders come from unkown and questionable sources already, then the gear is cooked somewhere in india a total shithole where ppl wipe their assholes with their bare hands.

some poster here posted a very long essay on that issue.

now ok, steroids, thats not sooo hard to make , making sure ppl dont get abscesses, the powders will be ok most of the time, if not there will atleast be some test in the ampoulas, to have some effect, the fatties out there cant tell what they injected anyway.

but hgh, lol, im not sure if people understand what it takes to produce that properly.talk to a chemist who knows and then get back and see if youll still trust the ug hgh.that said hygetropins really are solid.for now.

there was a bust here, quite big, they managed to get the raws from here and there was chemists ,docs involved,they produced decent stuff from what it seems.

meanwhile, the multi billion pharma companies who have to pass regulations and al that,are beyond any doubt.

"just find a good lab" is bit a daft remark, some are shit some are good, some go bust.not very consistent.wouldnt want to waste couple month on bunk, no?ot bc the money, rather bc of the wasted time.

[Cleanest Natural]

I agree with galeniko, from my experience it's almost impossible to find decent stuff. If it's not outright fake, it'll be underdosed for sure. It's a lottery nowadays.

[galeniko]

I agree with galeniko, from my experience it's almost impossible to find decent stuff. If it's not outright fake, it'll be underdosed for sure. It's a lottery nowadays.

yah, either the guys in usa have best ugl stuff(haha i doubt so, think of 911 and nsa and customs, not a popular market under those circumstances for the overseas ugls)or are very naive.

even here its very random, sometimes you get something ok, sometimes not, so many who have a clue about lifting and diet have suspicions that everything simply has test in it.or underdosed,as youve said, some ppl here have bothered to have some stuff chemicaly tested, i think deca from axio labs came back with pathetic results, laughable.

so whats left, to run test from the doctor(maybe gh from doc if one can afford),to make sure theres something guaranteed real in the mix, and then top that up with some ugl stuff.
best to test 1 bottle and then buy a years suply or something.

the times of mindlessly ad safely running any compound knowing its all real are long gone.

many people have this symptom, you ask them if they are for sure certain that this and that is in it,they say "ofc bro"but you see it in their eyes,they just guessing.pokerface.

oh brother i seen stories,haha, the best are the newcomers with 10lbs of waterbloof on them who reject pharmacy stuff and want only the 10cc multi inj ampoulas, they exclusively trust them,lol.

no problem if one tests the stuff, not just what it is, but what the hell else may be in there, there was some up and coming ugl a while back, the one that was busted i mentioned above, the first bunch of customers alot of them hospitalised bc of in issues.

best obvious, things like arimidex from ugls, haha, compare those to adex from pharmacy.

its hit or miss.too many ppl say this and that is good jjust bc some new ugl gear arised, before they even tried, wishful thinking upfront.

to each their own.

another thing mentioned, some guy bought dbols in thailand pharmacy, but its ugl stuff too, and he asks if its possible that these new dbols have half worth time of couple weeks.he cant feel them working.haha.

[Cleanest Natural]

The fact that even though I cannot tolerate high doses and I was able to run 1 gram of tren a week speaks volumes about the quality of that tren .. if it were pure and dosed properly I doubt I would be able to stand it.

This guy seems to find legit stuff 

[V Man]

The fact that even though I cannot tolerate high doses and I was able to run 1 gram of tren a week speaks volumes about the quality of that tren .. if it were pure and dosed properly I doubt I would be able to stand it.

This guy seems to find legit stuff 

Are you referring to the receeding hairline? 

[NotMrAverage]

I seem to be able to find the same pharma stuff now as then, don't now about if it's the same as then though...naposim, testex, sustanon mostly test...yellow tops deca are still there but that stuff was fake even back then...test is not the hardest thing in the world to get legit even underground. Have had enanthate and tren tested and it came back as real...dosage it did'nt tell...
What i run now seem descent but who knows maybe this batch is good and the next sucks? do they know themself what powders they get? it is nice anyway to be able to get some fucking tren

[polychronopolous]

just find a good lab.

sure.

how about have it chemicaly tested in a laboratory?


its very simple, the raw powders come from unkown and questionable sources already, then the gear is cooked somewhere in india a total shithole where ppl wipe their assholes with their bare hands.

some poster here posted a very long essay on that issue.

now ok, steroids, thats not sooo hard to make , making sure ppl dont get abscesses, the powders will be ok most of the time, if not there will atleast be some test in the ampoulas, to have some effect, the fatties out there cant tell what they injected anyway.

but hgh, lol, im not sure if people understand what it takes to produce that properly.talk to a chemist who knows and then get back and see if youll still trust the ug hgh.that said hygetropins really are solid.for now.

there was a bust here, quite big, they managed to get the raws from here and there was chemists ,docs involved,they produced decent stuff from what it seems.

meanwhile, the multi billion pharma companies who have to pass regulations and al that,are beyond any doubt.

"just find a good lab" is bit a daft remark, some are shit some are good, some go bust.not very consistent.wouldnt want to waste couple month on bunk, no?ot bc the money, rather bc of the wasted time.

One of my more favorite lines from the classic Galeniko YouTube series.... "The man mixing up your trenbolona  lives in a FUCKING CAVE!!!" 

[arce1988]

 

"The man mixing up your trenbolona  lives in a FUCKING CAVE!!!"

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[Natural Beast]

arc

u high bro? 

[Tito24]

[Teutonic Knight]

Because Soviet Union,East Germany,..........don't exist any more, no more governments financed "juice", probably in China only !.