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Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« on: December 27, 2013, 09:18:00 AM »
Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig
Max Planck Institute, Germany 2005

According to the premises of the synthetic theory [neo-darwinian evolution], explaining the origin of the entire world of organisms predominantly by selected mutations, a worldwide revolution in plant breeding research had been expected in the late 1930s, which was reinforced by Nobel laureate Josef H. Muller in 1946 especially for first decades after the Second World War.

However, due to the fact that:

(a) “many programmes failed...to produce anything useful”,
(b) “almost all mutants distinguish themselves by negative selection values”,
(c) “all kinds of mutations are even more frequently lethal and more strongly diminishing vitality and fertility in animals”,
(d) the overall results “have been rather meager in relation to the efforts expended”,
(e) “in spite of an enormous financial expenditure... [mutation breeding] widely proved to be a failure”,
(f) “the objective of practical plant breeding...could not be realized” neither by “macro-mutations” nor by “micro-mutations”,
(g) none of the modifying measures applied could help fulfilling “the ultimate hope of obtaining more of the ‘better’ mutants”,

- the overall result was that these strong anticipations concerning a revolution in plant breeding, accompanied by an intense euphoria especially among geneticists and agronomical scientists after the Second World War, ended up in a worldwide failure and breakdown of mutation breeding as an autonomous branch of breeding research in the 1980s at the latest in most Western countries.


The variations induced are mostly losses-of-function-mutations (often including many alleles with a series of gradually reduced functions) and they are either neutral or slightly disadvantageous for the organisms thus affected, yet in some cases they are useful for the breeder as well as micro-evolution as shown above. Generally, “the great majority of the changes should be harmful in their effects, just as any alterations made blindly in a complicated apparatus are usually detrimental to its proper functioning...” (see Muller, as quoted in the introduction).

Since in all cases of sufficiently extensive mutagenesis experiments (saturation mutagenesis) a large, but well-defined spectrum of mutant phenotypes has been realized (asymptotically approaching the saturation line especially for the micro-quantitative part of variation), the possibilities and limits of mutation breeding are directly defined by the areas and boundaries of this spectrum of mutants of the lines treated within a species.

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In other words, it has been scientifically demonstrated over and over and over and over again, that the mutation variation potential of a species is extremely limited, and these changes never improve the species beyond its original function.

Scientists who actually do empirical population genetics studies, KNOW that evolution is impossible. It's only the non-empirical, theoretical-imagineering Darwinian Mystics that believe it is not only possible, but MUST have happened because their dirt-worshiping faith is so strong.

Teaching of Evolution = 100% BLUFFING

Evolutionists: accumulated mutations and selection can not produce new types of functional organisms, no matter how much time you allow. You have no mechanism. Get over it.

Science has consistently demonstrated that Evolution is impossible. Evolution continues into the 21st century as nothing more than a philosophy and religion.

I hope this settles this nonsense..........ADAM and other morons. I was once again right. GOD, GOD, GOD created everything. Fucking pricks.
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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2013, 09:21:49 AM »
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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2013, 12:23:48 PM »
so we were not monkeys first?  :D ;D

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2013, 12:28:23 PM »
And gm food is????

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2013, 12:37:53 PM »
so we were not monkeys first?  :D ;D

No & No, aliens created us  ;)

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2013, 12:44:48 PM »
No & No, aliens created us  ;)

who created them? ;)
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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2013, 12:49:03 PM »
who created them? ;)

Read Erich von Daniken's "factual" books  ;D

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2013, 12:57:54 PM »
Nearly every living creature on the planet has two eyes a mouth a nose an ass hole, heart , digestive system is almost identical. Same touch, eat the same food yet you think we came from something special?  Everything is a mutation.

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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2013, 01:00:43 PM »
Nearly every living creature on the planet has two eyes a mouth a nose an ass hole, heart , digestive system is almost identical. Same touch, eat the same food yet you think we came from something special?  Everything is a mutation.

Yes we came from someone special, there's a basic design, that's what I see.
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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2013, 01:31:33 PM »
Wake up its not 540bc . Evolve. It doesn't even begin to make sense a special person. Stupid Fucking religions.

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2013, 01:35:31 PM »
Evolution is impossible but a now non-existent comet is Planet Niburu paying a surprise visit to our solar system  ::)

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2013, 01:37:32 PM »
Wake up its not 540bc . Evolve. It doesn't even begin to make sense a special person. Stupid Fucking religions.

You said person. I said God. Pseudo-Science garbage. All those years of lies. Now people are moving to ancient aliens when the ancient aliens are the fallen angels. They didn't create us. They've always been liars and manipulators because they're much more intelligent than us. They are fallen angels, aka aliens aka annunaki. Who created them? God.
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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2013, 01:42:34 PM »
I hope there is another planet so all the Fucking morons can go live there and believe in things they've never seen and have no evidence or even make sense that they exist. Oh and follow made up rules and laws. 
Wiggs your beliefs are a direct indication of your intelligence and logic. Dull as dishwater, no help for you you have not evolved. Like a child who believes in monsters no matter how many times you tell them they don't exist......

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2013, 02:12:05 PM »
I hope there is another planet so all the Fucking morons can go live there and believe in things they've never seen and have no evidence or even make sense that they exist. Oh and follow made up rules and laws. 
Wiggs your beliefs are a direct indication of your intelligence and logic. Dull as dishwater, no help for you you have not evolved. Like a child who believes in monsters no matter how many times you tell them they don't exist......

lolololol
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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2013, 03:16:54 PM »
Nearly every living creature on the planet has two eyes a mouth a nose an ass hole, heart , digestive system is almost identical. Same touch, eat the same food yet you think we came from something special?  Everything is a mutation.
lmao, no shit but that does not mean an elephant can turn into a giraffe. A designer designs things in similar patterns, why wouldn't he?

A monkey has 2 eyes, 2 arms, 2 legs so they have a common ancestor?, great logic,.... NOT  :D

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2013, 03:46:54 PM »
Evolution proves we ll become God.

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2013, 03:48:36 PM »
They said i could be become anything so i became a god

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2013, 03:51:19 PM »
"Ye shall be as Gods"- Satan
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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2013, 04:23:16 PM »
I am still trying to understand why any creator would create viruses, diseases, fleas, ticks, mosquitoes, spiders, flies and all manner of bad things. Why do women have periods? Crap design if you ask me. Whoever is responsible is a monster.

Wiggs, all religions are complete and total bullshit. No Nibiri, no aliens, no gods, no angels, no devil. Accept the facts. Throw away those foolish books.

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2013, 04:29:17 PM »


Wiggs, all religions are complete and total bullshit. No Nibiri, no aliens, no gods, no angels, no devil. Accept the facts. Throw away those foolish books.

how do you know this to be all "facts"

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2013, 04:42:34 PM »
  IF God is PERFECT... WHY is ALL of our shit fucked up?

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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2013, 04:45:35 PM »
Wiggs merely accepts articles and books that support his beliefs. Science supports evolution. End of story. Wiggs can't handle the truth!

"Recent developments in mutation scanning permit the identification of novel alleles of target genes within both germplasm collections and mutagenized populations, allowing significant progress in functional genomics within model species and in the assessment of candidate genes for crop improvement. The Cel1/Li-Cor-based TILLING platform is widely applicable, but a number of alternative technologies have also been developed, including agarose gel separation of cleavage products and high-resolution melting of heteroduplex DNA molecules. However, DNA sequencing costs continue to fall while throughput increases, and it seems likely that this more direct approach to mutation discovery will eventually replace other methods. A major obstacle in many crop species is the lack of complete genome sequence information, which slows the development of suitable TILLING targets. However, advances in sequencing technology are also likely to relieve this bottleneck within the relatively near future, as sequencing even very complex crop genomes such as wheat becomes practicable.

Mutagenized populations can be created at relatively low cost, although diploid species that are intolerant of high mutation frequencies require much larger populations for full coverage. Conversely, highly-mutagenized lines of polyploid species may require significant backcrossing to remove extraneous mutations before they can be assessed for phenotypes or used in plant breeding. Importantly, the use of such novel alleles in crops will not be impeded by the tough regulatory regimes that cover GM crops; this alone should assure the rapid deployment of this technology in plant breeding."

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Re: Evolution by mutations proven impossible.
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2013, 04:48:08 PM »
A monkey has 2 eyes, 2 arms, 2 legs so they have a common ancestor?, great logic,.... NOT  :D

Um that actually IS great logic.  We shared a common ancestor about 7, 000, 000 years ago which is why we're so similar.  We share 98% of DNA with chimps.  Hell, you could transfuse a chimps blood into your own body and be fine