UFC 168 - Silva vs Weidman - Discuss

[OneMoreRep]

Serra got fat huh?

I've seen Danaher interviewed a few times seems like a cerebral guy , well thought out. Any clue why he never competed?

Matt is having some personal issues with his brother at the moment and has let go a bit. To be truthful, from about a year prior to him retiring from MMA, he was already looking a bit chunky and started to concentrate more on the business end of his academy. I don't blame him. Why walk around in shape for a fight, when the most you will be bending on a day-to-day are hundred dollar bills?

Danaher never competed because he prefers to teach and prepare fighters by way of his camps. The guy is certainly cerebral in his approach to training and combat. He is also a smart guy in general, having a master's degree from Columbia University (Ivy league).

He always jokes and says that he is too lazy and now much too old to get in contest shape and compete at places like ADCC or even try for the UFC.

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[Wolfox]

That's not even remotely close to being true.

For Chris' first fight with Anderson, he did his entire camp at Renzo's academy. He used Danaher solely for his Jiu-Jitsu training and used our Muay Thai Kru for striking. Longo would show up with him once or twice a week, but it was mainly to add pointers from the sidelines. John Danaher runs the fight camp at Renzo's and he didn't even charge Chris the full amount. He simply told him to pay for the camp fees after he gets the proceeds from his fight. In his first camp, they even brought in Phil Nurse to show Chris any/all approaches Anderson might have by way of his Muay Thai. They also brought in a bunch of unorthodox boxers.

Serra has said it many times that no one provides a better fight camp than Renzo's academy. Serra knows very well that the best grappling team in NYC is at Renzo Gracie's academy (we win the most titles at all local and state competitions).

Aside from Serra (which was mostly trained by Renzo & Danaher during his first fight with GSP) and Weidman, what other champions has Longo put out?

Danaher's fight camp has put out GSP, Edgar & Weidman (first fight). Renzo's academy also has had more fighters turn pro than any other MMA camp in NYC.

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Incorrect. Renzos academy is dependent upon his Gracie last name to attract grapplers. That's why pros mma fighters go there...to train with other high level grapplers...not necessarily with/under Renzo or whoever.

Weidman and Serra both think highly of Longo. He's weidmans coach...and Weidman easily beat the GOAT of mma twice.

Longo is the premier coach of NY. His guy is the champion of the world. Longo and Serra are the best trainers in NY.

I could sense some jealousy.

[Wolfox]

Just rewatched the post fight interview. First coach Weidman names and gives credit to for checking kicks is Longo. Also during the post fight presser Longo is given credit again...how they train for knee on shin. Weidman also mentions Longo has also broken a guys leg checking kicks.

No peep of Renzo or Danher.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Incorrect. Renzos academy is dependent upon his Gracie last name to attract grapplers. That's why pros mma fighters go there...to train with other high level grapplers...not necessarily with/under Renzo or whoever.

Weidman and Serra both think highly of Longo. He's weidmans coach...and Weidman easily beat the GOAT of mma twice.

Longo is the premier coach of NY. His guy is the champion of the world. Longo and Serra are the best trainers in NY.

I could sense some jealousy.

Renzo is dependent on the Gracie name , however he made a name for himself. I remember Rorian commenting when Renzo first started competing in MMA , his words were to effect of ' If he wins he's a Gracie and if he loses he's just a cousin '

Renzo made a name for himself and continues to do well , Even Royce is bitching about him not staying true to his BJJ roots when in fact Renzo is adapting with the times , I always liked Renzo he put it all on the line

[OneMoreRep]

Incorrect. Renzos academy is dependent upon his Gracie last name to attract grapplers. That's why pros mma fighters go there...to train with other high level grapplers...not necessarily with/under Renzo or whoever.

You really have no clue what you're talking about.

Renzo's academy doesn't depend on the Gracie name to attract fans. Fuck, just down the street we have Marcelo Garcia, who is the pound-for-pound king of Brazilian JiuJitsu on the entire East Coast (The only other guy better than him is on the West Coast - Xande). Anyone who has followed the sport for over 10 years can tell you exactly who he is. Till this day, Renzo's academy still has the most members, the most professional fighters coming for the fight camps and the most city and state grappling champions.

Renzo's academy has grown to include it's own superstars like that of Danaher that MMA fighters come to train with. Aside from Danaher, we have over 4 guys (Igor, Gregor, Natal, Daniel) that have been professional MMA fighters (UFC, Strikeforce & Pride) that are also now training new members in MMA.

Renzo also offers everything for the perfect fight camp, the largest facility, the most amount of coaches, a nutritionist on site, Muay Thai Kru, Wrestling coach etc.

You ever been to Longo's academy? I have and it's very small and was hurting financially. Hency why Longo latched onto Chris for a "partnership", which only served but to simply rename Longo's old academy.

Weidman and Serra both think highly of Longo. He's weidmans coach...and Weidman easily beat the GOAT of mma twice.

Ask Serra who he thinks is the best coach in NYC and he will tell you his name is John Danaher.  

Longo is the premier coach of NY. His guy is the champion of the world. Longo and Serra are the best trainers in NY.

Again, you have no justifiable proof to claim that. Danaher is GSP, Edgar's and even Weidman's fight camp coach (he directed everything, placed him on diets, brought in the boxers from upstate, facilitated Phil Nurse and taught him more submission grappling geared towards MMA than anyone else).

I could sense some jealousy. Weidman mentions Longo post fight victory but those names youre dropping don't get a peep...and rightfully so. Credit to Longo.

The reason why Chris mentioned Longo in his post fight victory is because for this second fight, he mainly used Danaher for his Jiu Jitsu training. He trained with him all last month, every single week. Whereas his fight camp was held at his own gym (the new gym co-owned by Longo and Chris).

Seriously man, at least know what you're talking about before just spitting shit out.

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[che]

You really have no clue what you're talking about.

Renzo's academy doesn't depend on the Gracie name to attract fans. Fuck, just down the street we have Marcelo Garcia, who is the pound-for-pound king of Brazilian JiuJitsu on the entire East Coast (The only other guy better than him is on the West Coast - Xande). Anyone who has followed the sport for over 10 years can tell you exactly who he is. Till this day, Renzo's academy still has the most members, the most professional fighters coming for the fight camps and the most city and state grappling champions.

Renzo's academy has grown to include it's own superstars like that of Danaher that MMA fighters come to train with. Aside from Danaher, we have over 4 guys (Igor, Gregor, Natal, Daniel) that have been professional MMA fighters (UFC, Strikeforce & Pride) that are also now training new members in MMA.

Renzo also offers everything for the perfect fight camp, the largest facility, the most amount of coaches, a nutritionist on site, Muay Thai Kru, Wrestling coach etc.

You ever been to Longo's academy? I have and it's very small and was hurting financially. Hency why Longo latched onto Chris for a "partnership", which only served but to simply rename Longo's old academy.

Ask Serra who he thinks is the best coach in NYC and he will tell you his name is John Danaher. 

Again, you have no justifiable proof to claim that. Danaher is GSP, Edgar's and even Weidman's fight camp coach (he directed everything, placed him on diets, brought in the boxers from upstate, facilitated Phil Nurse and taught him more submission grappling geared towards MMA than anyone else).

The reason why Chris mentioned Longo in his post fight victory is because for this second fight, he mainly used Danaher for his Jiu Jitsu training. He trained with him all last month, every single week. Whereas his fight camp was held at his own gym (the new gym co-owned by Longo and Chris).

Seriously man, at least know what you're talking about before just spitting shit out.

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I think Shizzo is trolling you.

[Wolfox]

You really have no clue what you're talking about.

Renzo's academy doesn't depend on the Gracie name to attract fans. Fuck, just down the street we have Marcelo Garcia, who is the pound-for-pound king of Brazilian JiuJitsu on the entire East Coast (The only other guy better than him is on the West Coast - Xande). Anyone who has followed the sport for over 10 years can tell you exactly who he is. Till this day, Renzo's academy still has the most members, the most professional fighters coming for the fight camps and the most city and state grappling champions.

Renzo's academy has grown to include it's own superstars like that of Danaher that MMA fighters come to train with. Aside from Danaher, we have over 4 guys (Igor, Gregor, Natal, Daniel) that have been professional MMA fighters (UFC, Strikeforce & Pride) that are also now training new members in MMA.

Renzo also offers everything for the perfect fight camp, the largest facility, the most amount of coaches, a nutritionist on site, Muay Thai Kru, Wrestling coach etc.

You ever been to Longo's academy? I have and it's very small and was hurting financially. Hency why Longo latched onto Chris for a "partnership", which only served but to simply rename Longo's old academy.

Ask Serra who he thinks is the best coach in NYC and he will tell you his name is John Danaher.  

Again, you have no justifiable proof to claim that. Danaher is GSP, Edgar's and even Weidman's fight camp coach (he directed everything, placed him on diets, brought in the boxers from upstate, facilitated Phil Nurse and taught him more submission grappling geared towards MMA than anyone else).

The reason why Chris mentioned Longo in his post fight victory is because for this second fight, he mainly used Danaher for his Jiu Jitsu training. He trained with him all last month, every single week. Whereas his fight camp was held at his own gym (the new gym co-owned by Longo and Chris).

Seriously man, at least know what you're talking about before just spitting shit out.

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 If you have problem with Weidman repeatedly giving credit to Longo and not mentioning Renzo or whoever then take it up with Weidman. I'm sure he cares about your jealously.

Post fight interview and presser all I heard was Longo Longo Longo out of Weidmans mouth.

Put your big girl thong on and deal with it.

[OneMoreRep]

I think Shizzo is trolling you.

Of course he is.

This city is filled with fight teams. There are well over 10-15 fight camps in NYC alone. Because the UFC is still not allowed to bring their promotion here, we have the UCL (Underground Combat League) where most semi-pro and even pro fighters go to sharpen their arsenal. (Frankie Edgar started out in the UCL prior to the UFC).

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[Wolfox]

I think Shizzo is trolling you.

I think Weidman must be trolling because he gives credit to Longo. 

[OneMoreRep]

If you have problem with Weidman repeatedly giving credit to Longo and not mentioning Renzo or whoever then take it up with Weidman. I'm sure he cares about your jealously.

I don't know Weidman personally , nor would I ever tell anyone how to live their lives or who to give credit to. Weidman has personally given credit to Danaher on way too many occasions.

This is not about Renzo.

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[arce1988]

Jason Morris


Jimmy Pedro

[arce1988]

OMR... check out Tiago (Camilo)


Olympic Judo Brazil


he really gives BJJ and ADCC etc Champ Demian Maia a super hard time





same with Flavio Canto



thing is, these guys help BJJ out so much... that they actually get black belts them selves... (they are judo black belts, but spend so much time helping BJJ guys get their Judo level up, that they end up getting really really good at BJJ too)

[arce1988]

http://matt-daquino.blogspot.com/2008_01_01_archive.html

[Marty Champions]

i think its silly to kick a guys shin with your shin. now using your heel makes sense

try kicking a tree with your shin...yeah feels great!

now try kicking the tree with the bottom of your foot, ok cool just dont break a toe or better yet dont waste your time with these kicks, use only for setting up

[arce1988]

  Great info OMR! You are a class act! As for John... NOT every one has to win ADCC and the Mundials, etc to be a GREAT teacher! John is a World Class teacher! One of the best on earth!

[OneMoreRep]

  Great info OMR! You are a class act! As for John... NOT every one has to win ADCC and the Mundials, etc to be a GREAT teacher! John is a World Class teacher! One of the best on earth!

John is fantastic.

As for Tiago (Camilo), he has power on the mats. That's why I'd like to spend more time with Judo players for the overall hip control they establish while on the ground or even standing. They have an ability to place the fight wherever they want when in the clinch.

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[MAXX]

it's not that bad. just looks dramatic.

rather have a bone snap than a muscle or tendon tear. the bones will just be fixated straight with screws and plates and then grow together again and heal stronger.

[arce1988]

  yeah... you can really see it... I have seen Canto handle Xande the same way that Camilo did to Demian...


  on the east coast, check out Jimmy Pedro Junior and Jason Morris


  both won olympic medals in judo (Bronze and Silver)

[Marty Champions]

i would wrestle one more rep , just no punching allowed just a good ol jujitsu wrestle match. ive tusseld with a few guys i remember i was 17 thinking i was the shit and this dude was 31 in good shape about 6'2. i underestimated the power of a barehug he had his arms locked around me from the front felt like it was gonna break my back. that is one thing i learned is you cant let a mother fucker grab you around the waist. i remember pushing the dude to the floor was the only way i could get out superior adrenaline kicked in

[OneMoreRep]

i would wrestle one more rep , just no punching allowed just a good ol jujitsu wrestle match. ive tusseld with a few guys i remember i was 17 thinking i was the shit and this dude was 31 in good shape about 6'2. i underestimated the power of a barehug he had his arms locked around me from the front felt like it was gonna break my back. that is one thing i learned is you cant let a mother fucker grab you around the waist. i remember pushing the dude to the floor was the only way i could get out superior adrenaline kicked in

I would wrestle you too handsome.

I have a very comfortable mattress, baby oil, scented candles and Keith Sweat ready to play in the background..

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[Marty Champions]

I would wrestle you too handsome.

I have a very comfortable mattress, baby oil, scented candles and Keith Sweat ready to play in the background..

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hahah no i just want to test my skills, i miss being a kid and wrestling n shit like that

[Kwon_2]

i would wrestle one more rep , just no punching allowed just a good ol jujitsu wrestle match. ive tusseld with a few guys i remember i was

LOL that's quite the invitation Johnny!

[che]

I would wrestle you too handsome.

I have a very comfortable mattress, baby oil, scented candles and Keith Sweat ready to play in the background..

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hahah no i just want to test my skills, i miss being a kid and wrestling n shit like that

Hahaha , Falcon is scared .

[OneMoreRep]

Hahaha , Falcon is scared .

I'm the one that is scared. Have you seen Johnny's piece? Geebus!!

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[Marty Champions]

Hahaha , Falcon is scared .

getting punched isnt fun last time i got elbowed in the jaw it hurt for like 3 weeks