nobody sane in their head steps on stage natural.
its very easy, if you wanna see how far natural goes,do the following:
train full intense.
diet as the mags say, its more or less ok-ish.pick one diet that you find you can maintain long term.
do no steorids, waster a good 10 years in the gym and then se how it looks, you should be maxed out after ten years.
natural or on low doses doesn't mater, they do not look impressive (posing like bodybuilders) this lean at all. Natural bb competition is stupid anyway.
Physique competition is where they should compete.
agreed , it doesnt matter.each one does indicidualy what they can and want.posting pics and asking stuff is dumb.
and yes physique class is where the women in audience have meltdowns and scream, seen it with own eyes.
when the heavyweights step on the stage, only the closet homosexuals sitting there with jaws dropping and salivating slightly.