Author Topic: Mike Huckabee links brain dead California girl to Nazi death camps, forced abort  (Read 4237 times)

blacken700

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 11873
  • Getbig!
By David Edwards
Sunday, January 5, 2014 10:09 EST

Fox News host Mike Huckabee on Saturday warned that a California girl who was declared brain dead after tonsil surgery last month could lead to situations like Nazi death camps and forced abortions in China if the hospital took her off life support.

The former Arkansas governor and ordained pastor began his Fox News show by admitting that he did not have the medical experience necessary to understand 13-year-old Jahi McMath’s condition but he encouraged her family to fight against any attempts to remove her from life support even though doctors said she technically “died several weeks ago.”

“Every life has value and worth,” Huckabee told his viewers on Saturday. “There is no such person who is disposable, one whose life has been deemed by others to be less than others and therefore expendable, I can’t share that.”

He continued: “The road that starts that way in deciding that some lives have less value and are unworthy of protection, that leads to a culture that tolerates the undeserved killing of over 55 million unborn children in this country. It leads to China’s birth policy that limits the number of children for a family and enforces forced abortion if they deviate from the state-determined ideal.”

“It’s also that culture that allowed the Nazis to to hideously justify the savage slaughter of millions of Jews, disabled people, old people and those with mental illness,” Huckabee said. “Let’s hope and pray that the courts continue to do what every court should do, respect parents over government, family over hospitals and, above all, protect Jahi from them all.”

Watch this video from Fox News’ Huckabee, broadcast Jan. 4, 2013.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/05/mike-huckabee-links-brain-dead-california-girl-to-nazi-death-camps-forced-abortions/

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
why is it we have Repubs making stupid statements like this yet never having to apologize yet when Dems say stupid shit they constantly have to apologize

ZOD

  • Getbig II
  • **
  • Posts: 130
why is it we have Repubs making stupid statements like this yet never having to apologize yet when Dems say stupid shit they constantly have to apologize

Yeah, i'm trying to find the part where what he said was offensive to the child.

404 - outrage not found.

Everybody knows fuckabee by now. Hes pro life. He believes she shouldn't be taken off life support willy nilly. If you're offended by that, that's on you.

whork

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6587
  • Getbig!
Huckabee is an idiot who will soon be fired from FOX for being liberal.

Doesnt he know that a brain-dead girl will cost a lot of welfare? That is paid with taxes?

Is the man not a conservative?

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Mike Huckabee Explains How Taking Dead Girl Off Life Support Is Like Forced Abortions In Auschwitz

By now you probably know the sad, awful story of Jahi McMath, the Oakland, California 13-year-old who suffered complications after a complex tonsillectomy, leaving her brain-dead. Her family, however, refuses to accept that “no blood flow to the brain” and “no electrical activity in the brain or brain stem” are the same as “really, actually dead.” So since December 12, they have kept her body alive, on a ventilator, and hope to move her to a long-term care facility where machines will continue to make her heart pump and her lungs breathe, even though brain death is final and irreversible — this is not a persistent vegetative state like that of Terri Schiavo; this is just plain death.  And so, of course, potential 2016 Republican candidate Mike Huckabee thinks Jahi’s body should be kept hooked up to a machine, because he is so very pro-life that he believes that brain-dead people can get better (they can’t). It’s sort of reassuring to know that, no matter how tragic a situation might be, there’s always the chance that a rightwing politician will find a way to jump in and make it even worse.

On his January 4 Fox teevee show, Huck admitted he’s not a doctor and doesn’t have the medical expertise to understand Jahi’s condition, or even to read about brain death, apparently. But hey, that’s no reason not to have a very strong opinion on why a dead girl’s body should be kept on a ventilator, because, duh, didn’t you hear he’s pro-life?

“Every life has value and worth,” Huckabee told his viewers on Saturday. “There is no such person who is disposable, one whose life has been deemed by others to be less than others and therefore expendable, I can’t share that.” And indeed, that precious right to life apparently now extends to those who are actually dead. And what’s more, said Huckabee, once we start treating the dead as if they are not valuable living people, all sorts of horrors could result:

“The road that starts that way in deciding that some lives have less value and are unworthy of protection, that leads to a culture that tolerates the undeserved killing of over 55 million unborn children in this country. It leads to China’s birth policy that limits the number of children for a family and enforces forced abortion if they deviate from the state-determined ideal.”

Um. A brain-dead person is not merely deviating from some state-determined ideal, Huck. That person is seriously deviating from being alive. And then, of course, it’s time to drag Hitler into it, because unlike people, metaphors never die:

“It’s also that culture that allowed the Nazis to hideously justify the savage slaughter of millions of Jews, disabled people, old people and those with mental illness,” Huckabee said. “Let’s hope and pray that the courts continue to do what every court should do, respect parents over government, family over hospitals and, above all, protect Jahi from them all.”

Yr Wonkette would like to point out a rather key distinction between the victims of the Nazis and Jahi McMath: they were alive, and she is not. We’re willing to grant some sympathy to Jahi’s family, who at least have the excuse that they’ve lost a daughter and are in denial about the reality of that. But there’s no excuse for vultures like Huckabee to hitch his ignorance to his ideology and encourage the further suffering and false hopes of a desperate family.


Read more at http://wonkette.com/538305/mike-huckabee-explains-how-taking-dead-girl-off-life-support-is-like-forced-abortions-in-auschwitz#O5fKy5LiKD09jypw.99

headhuntersix

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17271
  • Our forefathers would be shooting by now
I can't stand him...I hate this issue. This girl will never recover. I understand the slippery slope argument but what exactly is the point here?
L

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
I can't stand him...I hate this issue. This girl will never recover. I understand the slippery slope argument but what exactly is the point here?

you do?

can you explain it to me in this situation?

headhuntersix

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17271
  • Our forefathers would be shooting by now
Allow the government to step in a decide this shit is never a good idea...kinda like guns....however this chick is dead, she's on a machine and unless somebody is going to miracle her ass...just let her die with dignity.
L

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Comedy becomes reality (yet again) and also proves how ahead of his time that Bill Hicks truly was


headhuntersix

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17271
  • Our forefathers would be shooting by now
I don't have an opinion on abortion....and I don't link it to contraception either. If I was a practicing catholic I'd be against it..unlike the legion of Dem Catholics who are all full of shit. My mom voted for O'douche in 2008. She goes to church 3 days a week. I brought that point up to her and his attacks on Catholics and she voted for Romney. Repubs like Huckabee make my skin crawl..I'm sure he's a nice guy but dudes like him make me want to swear more and sniff coke off a hookers ass in public.
L

chadstallion

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2854
Huckabee is an idiot who will soon be fired from FOX for being liberal.

Doesnt he know that a brain-dead girl will cost a lot of welfare? That is paid with taxes?

Is the man not a conservative?
he will relish being fired; then he is free to run for prez. forget the clown car; they will need a bus this time.
w

Skip8282

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7004
why is it we have Repubs making stupid statements like this yet never having to apologize yet when Dems say stupid shit they constantly have to apologize


Please, you clowns don't apologize for shit.  Even Obama has only given a half-ass apology for the lie of the year.

Hell, I haven't even seen a post from you acknowledging it was a flat out lie.


headhuntersix

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17271
  • Our forefathers would be shooting by now
He took a position..not much to apologize for compared to the clowns at MSNBC
L

Emmortal

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5660
why is it we have Repubs making stupid statements like this yet never having to apologize yet when Dems say stupid shit they constantly have to apologize

Like when Bill Mahr called Sarah Palin a "c u n t" and apologized after?

Oh wait...

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana

Please, you clowns don't apologize for shit.  Even Obama has only given a half-ass apology for the lie of the year.

Hell, I haven't even seen a post from you acknowledging it was a flat out lie.

are you fucking serious

how about the chick who just apologized for whatever she said about Romney's black grandchild

I could name many more but she's the first one to come to mind since it was just a few days ago

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana
Like when Bill Mahr called Sarah Palin a "c u n t" and apologized after?

Oh wait...

Bill Maher is a comedian and does not host a news show

Anyone remember the last time any of the clowns on your side apologized for anything

Rush had to face losing many sponsors before he apologized for his lies about Sandra Fluke

I don't recall any apologies from Ted Nugent for all the vile shit that he has said


Skip8282

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7004
Bill Maher is a comedian and does not host a news show

Anyone remember the last time any of the clowns on your side apologized for anything

Rush had to face losing many sponsors before he apologized for his lies about Sandra Fluke

I don't recall any apologies from Ted Nugent for all the vile shit that he has said




It's ok if they're a comedian, but not ok if they're a singer or radio show host.  ::)

Typical stupid liberal logic.

Like I said, you clowns don't apologize for shit.


headhuntersix

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 17271
  • Our forefathers would be shooting by now
The crap on MSNBC is out of control....they just say shit and see what sticks and then choreograph ridiculous on "feel sorry for me" on air apologies.
L

Straw Man

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 41012
  • one dwells in nirvana

It's ok if they're a comedian, but not ok if they're a singer or radio show host.  ::)

Typical stupid liberal logic.

Like I said, you clowns don't apologize for shit.



exactly right dipshit

I can't believe you don't understand the difference?

tonymctones

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 26520
exactly right dipshit

I can't believe you don't understand the difference?
by that logic you should be just fine w/rush since he is an "entertainer"

avxo

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5647
  • Iron Pumping University Math Professor
I watched this segment live due to circumstances out of my control and I was pretty appalled at what he had to say, and it wasn't just the "ZOMG NAZIS!" thing. It was everything he said.

He may not be my style and I may find him offensive, but I have to give it to Mike Huckabee. He is a smooth politician - he knows who he's targeting with this nonsense, and they're buying it and loving it.

tu_holmes

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15922
  • Robot
I watched this segment live due to circumstances out of my control and I was pretty appalled at what he had to say, and it wasn't just the "ZOMG NAZIS!" thing. It was everything he said.

He may not be my style and I may find him offensive, but I have to give it to Mike Huckabee. He is a smooth politician - he knows who he's targeting with this nonsense, and they're buying it and loving it.


Too bad that might get him the Republican nomination, but it will keep him out of the White House.

temple_of_dis

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 886
  • togtfo


THREAD SAVED!

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 66395
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
I like Huck, but he should stay out of this.  That said, I don't fault the parents for not trusting the hospital that caused their daughter's condition.

avxo

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5647
  • Iron Pumping University Math Professor
I like Huck, but he should stay out of this.  That said, I don't fault the parents for not trusting the hospital that caused their daughter's condition.

They don't trust independent doctors either. It's a tragic situation for a parent to lose their child, especially a largely "meaningless" (I use the term loosely) loss over something like tonsil surgery. I feel for them, but their daughter is well and truly dead. Brain death isn't a fancy kind of sleep. It's death.  

Frankly, it's a pity to see resources that could be devoted to helping people who do have a chance at recovery - even a minimal one - being diverted to "help" someone who's dead.