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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2014, 12:56:11 PM »


OK if you had a straight choice between test prop & deca, lets imagine those were the only two compounds available in the world for one second which one would you choose IF:


1) Your goal was to look like a phsique type model, you weren't overtly concerned with having enormous amounts of muscle mass but just wanted to be above avearge shape for a gym rat with less than 10% BF
2) You didn't want to lose any hair or get acne or any unwanted side effects etc.

which one would you choose?


bro, it is not wise to do any compound that is not test without test. So test alone or test with...
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« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2014, 01:23:46 PM »

bro, it is not wise to do any compound that is not test without test. So test alone or test with...

Bro will deca make me drier than test?

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« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2014, 01:32:22 PM »

Bro will deca make me drier than test?


no but deca will shut down your test levels and without any test in your body say hello to all kinds of problems, wise to always keep test in there when using another compound. If you are after dryness, NPP is what you replace deca with, way less water retention
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« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2014, 01:49:28 PM »

no but deca will shut down your test levels and without any test in your body say hello to all kinds of problems, wise to always keep test in there when using another compound. If you are after dryness, NPP is what you replace deca with, way less water retention


Bro first off THANK YOU so much for answering these questions totally appreciate and I promise after this I ain't gonna bug you.

Here is the situation.

I have an appointment with my "specialist endo" this guy is hard to get an appointment with but will write me script for whatever I want no questions asked.

The problem is here in the UK you can only get the following products human grade via script from a legit high street pharmacy and I ain't got time and patience to play the underground game.

I can only get as follows:

Genotropin GH
Verimon Test Prop
Deca
Nebido (some shit you inject once every 3-4 months)

...also all the PCT stuff I can get like nolva, arimidex, hcg, clomid etc

Now based on above what would you have me do, what doses etc.

Now here are my rules and objectives:


1) Look like a phsique model. I just wanted to look shredded and well proportioned I don't care about being a mass monster etc
2) MY HAIR CANNOT FALLOUT (I have propecia at hand, no family history of MPB and me and my whole family actually have really thick bushy hair)


Below is pic of kinda where I am at right now which is pretty fat (I think maybe 15% ish)

3) AM I too fat to be doing steroids?


Never done any cycles in my life, total noob and natty. Just did 45 days of GH which I stopped cos it did nothing for me and was too expensive anyway.


I REALLY DONT WANNA GET TO BIG and I DONT WANNA GO OVER 180LBS ( I do lots of sports, mma and cardio, need to stay light)

Thanks bro, cos I really want to get this nailed down for Monday.



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« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2014, 01:57:25 PM »


OK here are my two proposed cycle. I can only get Test Prop and Deca & GH (but I ain't doing GH no more cos it was waste of money)

Ok here goes: Which one should I do?


Option 1:

Verimon Test Prop 100 EOD (400 a week)
1 tab arimidex EOD
Propecia 1mg a day

Option 2:

Verimon Test Prop 250 a week
Deca: 250 a week
1 tab arimidex EOD


Both cycles to be run for 8 to 12 weeks followed by 8-12 weeks PCT (Nolva + Clomid + HCG)


Now here is the important thing:

I DONT WANT TO GAIN ANY FUCKING WEIGHT, I'LL BE PISSED IF I GO OVER 180LBS.


I will be dieting on 1300-1500 calories, very low carb, I just want to come dry and shredded while not looking anorexic.


Is above ok.

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I don't think you're getting shredded on either cycle.  You can look decent compared to people in a grocery store.  But don't expect anything astonishing.
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« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2014, 02:01:07 PM »



I don't think you're getting shredded on either cycle.  You can look decent compared to people in a grocery store.  But don't expect anything astonishing.



I wish I could get some Mastron, Primabolin or real Anavar but only way for me to get those would be to take a trip to Thailand or Mexico which I ain't got time for right now.

If I am just gonna look like a bloofie perma bulker I'd rather forget the hole thing.


Problem is I lose so much muscle when I diet, its ridiculous and just end up looking thin and sorta like a bantamweight boxer, lean but not really ripped or shredded etc.

So what should I do?


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« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2014, 02:05:55 PM »

Is that you in the pics?

Just try 250 mg of test for the first month w propecia.

Then if feel you good bump it to 400mg by week 5.

Very simple and very easy.

If what you say is true. Then the test will prevent you from losing muscle while being able to lose fat.  Period

Side note- the moment you used GH is when you popped your natty cherry.
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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2014, 02:06:10 PM »

bro, it is not wise to do any compound that is not test without test. So test alone or test with...

I agree.. I have always felt like complete shit the few times I tried using no test.. My mgs of test need to be higher than everything else otherwise my libido crashes..
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« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2014, 02:09:50 PM »

Is that you in the pics?

Just try 250 mg of test for the first month w propecia.

Then if feel good bump it to 400mg.

Very simple and very easy.

Side note- the moment you used GH is when you popped your natty cherry.


yeah those are me in the picture, I wanna look like below, this is my sorta physique that I want, what drugs to take for that?

Like I said I started GH for first time ever 2 months ago and quit after 45 days cos it was doing absolutely nothing for and I was like why am I spending all this money on this shit. It made my IGF levels go up to 53.4 nmol, the normal reference range in the blood test was netween, 13.3 to 39.3 (i think) but I did not notice any gains whatsoever and if anything it just made me tired all the time.

That's why I don't want this steroid thing to be another mistake.

Make me look like below pic:



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« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2014, 02:14:02 PM »

More drugs than your willing to take.

Plus.  That's not a realistic build for 95% of the population.  Dude might be on a lot of drugs he wouldn't cop to but he is genetically  gifted no doubt.

You have a very good base.  Just lose fat.  Test alone will help you do that with the diet you outlined.
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« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2014, 02:18:45 PM »

More drugs than your willing to take.

Plus.  That's not a realistic build.  Dude might be on a lot of drugs he wouldn't cop to but he is genitally gifted no doubt.



I don't believe in this genetic gifted bullshit but I ain't no expert. For me the only thing that genetics affects is how tall you are and your bone structure, but forget this argument for now.

Give me your best shot as to what drugs to take to look like above.

Even something like this is fine.

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« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2014, 02:25:26 PM »


Bro first off THANK YOU so much for answering these questions totally appreciate and I promise after this I ain't gonna bug you.

Here is the situation.

I have an appointment with my "specialist endo" this guy is hard to get an appointment with but will write me script for whatever I want no questions asked.

The problem is here in the UK you can only get the following products human grade via script from a legit high street pharmacy and I ain't got time and patience to play the underground game.

I can only get as follows:

Genotropin GH
Verimon Test Prop
Deca
Nebido (some shit you inject once every 3-4 months)

...also all the PCT stuff I can get like nolva, arimidex, hcg, clomid etc

Now based on above what would you have me do, what doses etc.

Now here are my rules and objectives:


1) Look like a phsique model. I just wanted to look shredded and well proportioned I don't care about being a mass monster etc
2) MY HAIR CANNOT FALLOUT (I have propecia at hand, no family history of MPB and me and my whole family actually have really thick bushy hair)


Below is pic of kinda where I am at right now which is pretty fat (I think maybe 15% ish)

3) AM I too fat to be doing steroids?


Never done any cycles in my life, total noob and natty. Just did 45 days of GH which I stopped cos it did nothing for me and was too expensive anyway.


I REALLY DONT WANNA GET TO BIG and I DONT WANNA GO OVER 180LBS ( I do lots of sports, mma and cardio, need to stay light)

Thanks bro, cos I really want to get this nailed down for Monday.




First, do not stop asking questions, this is the beauty of getbig, we don't judge and respect all levels and besides others read too, so more questions the better.

before I answer your main question, I have to say this; you need to watch your diet. Compounds do not get you ripped, dieting does. So stick to these foods and watch your carbs,keep them low

Egg whites
Chicken breast
lean Turkey
Cod
Haddock
Salmon
Tuna
Talipia
Shrimp
Liver
Protein shake ( find one with less then 4 grams of carbs per serving)

Now the following protein sources are kept to once a day;

Lean steak
Lean ground beef
Lean roast beef
Veal


Here are your vegetable source;

Asparagus
Broccoli/purple sprouting broccoli
Cabbage
Cucumber
Onion
Spinach
Romaine lettuce
Tomatoes
Green Peppers


As for your question, keep things as simple as possible, its your first time out so stick to one compound test prop at 100mg EOD and no ancillaries or AI's or nothing, Basics is key to the least amount of side effects. You do not need anything other then test prop for your first time out.

 follow these types of food with 150 grams of carbs per day and the prop and you will be lean and dry in no time.

as for the your next question of being to fat to do steroids, whoever is spewing that HS is an imbecile. Now there are certain compounds you should never take if you are over weight such as winstrol or anavar or even a few others.
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« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2014, 02:55:36 PM »

First, do not stop asking questions, this is the beauty of getbig, we don't judge and respect all levels and besides others read too, so more questions the better.

before I answer your main question, I have to say this; you need to watch your diet. Compounds do not get you ripped, dieting does. So stick to these foods and watch your carbs,keep them low

Egg whites
Chicken breast
lean Turkey
Cod
Haddock
Salmon
Tuna
Talipia
Shrimp
Liver
Protein shake ( find one with less then 4 grams of carbs per serving)

Now the following protein sources are kept to once a day;

Lean steak
Lean ground beef
Lean roast beef
Veal


Here are your vegetable source;

Asparagus
Broccoli/purple sprouting broccoli
Cabbage
Cucumber
Onion
Spinach
Romaine lettuce
Tomatoes
Green Peppers


As for your question, keep things as simple as possible, its your first time out so stick to one compound test prop at 100mg EOD and no ancillaries or AI's or nothing, Basics is key to the least amount of side effects. You do not need anything other then test prop for your first time out.

 follow these types of food with 150 grams of carbs per day and the prop and you will be lean and dry in no time.

as for the your next question of being to fat to do steroids, whoever is spewing that HS is an imbecile. Now there are certain compounds you should never take if you are over weight such as winstrol or anavar or even a few others.


Ahh man, thank you so much once again, you are one seriously awesome guy onetimehard, that's why I came on Getbig in the first place cos I was looking up info about steroids cos I got so sick and disappointed about being natty. Thank you man means alot to me.


Ok awesome, I am gonna do exactly what you say, I am gonna diet real hard, low carb's keto style and do test prop only at 100 EOD.


Are you sure I don't need and AI like Arimidex? My current E2 levels are 109 nmol/l, the reference range is 50 to 150 nmol/l

would it not be prudent just to take say 1/2 tab dex EOD with the prop?

Also I wanna add propecia at 1mg a day only just to be safe ( think I am worry too much about the hairloss cos I have really thick hair anyway but still)

I am gonna go on from Tuesday (doctors appointment is on Monday) and I will do transformation thread with progress pictures.

Thanks once again for all your help brother.

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« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2014, 06:20:52 PM »


I don't believe in this genetic gifted bullshit but I ain't no expert. For me the only thing that genetics affects is how tall you are and your bone structure, but forget this argument for now.

Give me your best shot as to what drugs to take to look like above.

Even something like this is fine.



Hold on man.  You are definitely just a troll and I'm positive of it now.

In the offseason thread when you were getting golden advice from people who seemed to actually care.  All you kept saying was how your genetics just wouldn't allow for this this and that (basically just rebuffing anything that anybody had to offer).  And I can promise you it wasn't in relation to height or bone structure..

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« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2014, 12:01:32 AM »


Ahh man, thank you so much once again, you are one seriously awesome guy onetimehard, that's why I came on Getbig in the first place cos I was looking up info about steroids cos I got so sick and disappointed about being natty. Thank you man means alot to me.


Ok awesome, I am gonna do exactly what you say, I am gonna diet real hard, low carb's keto style and do test prop only at 100 EOD.


Are you sure I don't need and AI like Arimidex? My current E2 levels are 109 nmol/l, the reference range is 50 to 150 nmol/l

would it not be prudent just to take say 1/2 tab dex EOD with the prop?

Also I wanna add propecia at 1mg a day only just to be safe ( think I am worry too much about the hairloss cos I have really thick hair anyway but still)

I am gonna go on from Tuesday (doctors appointment is on Monday) and I will do transformation thread with progress pictures.

Thanks once again for all your help brother.

Peace




with the hair thing that is fine, take proper measures but for adex, I would hold on to that thought for now, start without for 2 weeks and see how things are from there, you can always throw it in if you need to later, My guess is you won't be needing it at this dose
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« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2014, 03:40:04 AM »

Hold on man.  You are definitely just a troll and I'm positive of it now.

In the offseason thread when you were getting golden advice from people who seemed to actually care.  All you kept saying was how your genetics just wouldn't allow for this this and that (basically just rebuffing anything that anybody had to offer).  And I can promise you it wasn't in relation to height or bone structure..

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No you misunderstand the context of that thread, the question there was not about genetics it was about being carb sensitive and carbohydrate intake requirements for someone that might either be predabetic or already stage 2 diabetic which my blood glucose levels were indicating.

We can discuss this on another thread, I don't want to derail this thread bro but I promise I am not a troll or gimmick, maybe not as well educated about stuff as you guys clearly are but not a die hard troll or gimmick etc.

Thank you for all the advice and lets be friends please.

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« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2014, 03:43:02 AM »

with the hair thing that is fine, take proper measures but for adex, I would hold on to that thought for now, start without for 2 weeks and see how things are from there, you can always throw it in if you need to later, My guess is you won't be needing it at this dose


Thanks Onetimehard, decision has been made and I am going on from Tuesday exactly like you said.

Will keep the dex on hand in case I need it but won't take it from the off like you said.

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« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2014, 05:25:30 AM »


Thanks Onetimehard, decision has been made and I am going on from Tuesday exactly like you said.

Will keep the dex on hand in case I need it but won't take it from the off like you said.

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