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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2014, 10:30:00 AM »
Yes they are.  Then again so is Bachmann and Palin, despite the largest collection of mass stupidity between the two of them, they are more experienced than Carson as well for politics.  

The only thing I have seen cornered so far is your deluded illogical thinking, and that is by your own words.  Took no effort on my part.  

That's some retarded logic.  But good luck with that.  I guess this is how people like Obama get elected president.  Twice.   :-\

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2014, 10:34:33 AM »
The only retarded logic I have seen is you harping about Carson's non political "accomplishments" having more weight than someone else who has actually won an election  ::)  , served in Congress and has a track record.

Of course, by your standards Ronnie Coleman is "accomplished" enough to get elected.  How about Madonna, Beck or Michael Jordan?  Their "accomplishments" are not political by any means, but that shouldn't matter at all by your logic.

It's amusing watching you argue with yourself. 


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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2014, 10:41:00 AM »
The only retarded logic I have seen is you harping about Carson's non political "accomplishments" having more weight than someone else who has actually won an election  ::)  , served in Congress and has a track record.

Of course, by your standards Ronnie Coleman is "accomplished" enough to get elected.  How about Madonna, Beck or Michael Jordan?  Their "accomplishments" are not political by any means, but that shouldn't matter at all by your logic.

It's amusing watching you argue with yourself. 



I'm not arguing with anyone.  Just asking questions and watching you make some pretty dumb comments.   :) 

And I've learned quite a bit.  Bodybuilding > Brain Surgery.  lol  . . .

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2014, 10:51:57 AM »
Please show me where anyone said Bodybuilding > Brain surgery.  I don't remember that part.  Maybe you can quote it?  Or maybe you will instead argue around it with another retarded example.

If any comment I have made seems dumb, then it should.  Seeing how I am using your own words and thoughts as an example.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2014, 10:56:02 AM »
Please show me where anyone said Bodybuilding > Brain surgery.  I don't remember that part.  Maybe you can quote it?  Or maybe you will instead argue around it with another retarded example.

If any comment I have made seems dumb, then it should.  Seeing how I am using your own words and thoughts as an example.

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In that case Ronnie Coleman is a better candidate that Carson.  If you disagree, then it is because of the folly of your owns.  Nothing new there.

Ronnie Coleman is a bodybuilder.  Dr. Carson is one of the most successful brain surgeons in world history. 

lol  Sorry to keep laughing, but I cannot even type this stuff without laughing.   :)

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2014, 10:58:50 AM »
Interesting that you either couldn't understand or just wanted to skip the next part of that.

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If you disagree, then it is because of the folly of your owns.  Nothing new there.

Bears repeating :

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If any comment I have made seems dumb, then it should.  Seeing how I am using your own words and thoughts as an example.

I suspect the reason you are "laughing" so much is out of insecurity and a vague attempt at trying to play off the stupidity of YOUR OWN words.  As quoted above.

Now please come back and post again to contradict yourself.  As usual.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2014, 11:07:43 AM »
Interesting that you either couldn't understand or just wanted to skip the next part of that.

Bears repeating :

I suspect the reason you are "laughing" so much is out of insecurity and a vague attempt at trying to play off the stupidity of YOUR OWN words.  As quoted above.

Now please come back and post again to contradict yourself.  As usual.

I know you like to quote yourself, but it doesn't make your ridiculous comments make any more sense.  You asked for a quote.  I gave you "YOUR OWN words."  You, not me, compared Ronnie Coleman the bodybuilder to Dr. Carson the world renowned brain surgeon. 

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2014, 11:19:45 AM »
Ronnie Coleman "one of the most successful bodybuilders in world history" (BTW) and Carson "one of the most successful brain surgeons in world history" were being compared in what regards?  Oh yeah.... political accomplishments.  Both of which have none. 

My "ridiculous comments" are based on "YOUR OWN WORDS" and logic as exhibited here. 

Worth repeating.

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If any comment I have made seems dumb, then it should.  Seeing how I am using your own words and thoughts as an example.

Continue contradicting yourself while I hit the gym.  I'll check back and see you still in the corner you painted yourself in.  No surprise when I find you still there chasing your tail over your own words.


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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2014, 11:22:54 AM »
Ronnie Coleman "one of the most successful bodybuilders in world history" (BTW) and Carson "one of the most successful brain surgeons in world history" were being compared in what regards?  Oh yeah.... political accomplishments.  Both of which have none. 

My "ridiculous comments" are based on "YOUR OWN WORDS" and logic as exhibited here. 

Worth repeating.

Continue contradicting yourself while I hit the gym.  I'll check back and see you still in the corner you painted yourself in.  No surprise when I find you still there chasing your tail over your own words.



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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2014, 11:34:35 AM »
Ronnie Coleman "one of the most successful bodybuilders in world history" (BTW) and Carson "one of the most successful brain surgeons in world history" were being compared in what regards?  Oh yeah.... political accomplishments.  Both of which have none.  

My "ridiculous comments" are based on "YOUR OWN WORDS" and logic as exhibited here.  

Worth repeating.

Continue contradicting yourself while I hit the gym.  I'll check back and see you still in the corner you painted yourself in.  No surprise when I find you still there chasing your tail over your own words.



Yes, you compared Ronnie Coleman to Dr. Carson.  Good luck with that retarded logic of yours.  Training is good for the brain too.  Good move.  Have a good workout.  

And I'm sure you'll be quoting yourself again.   :)

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2014, 12:03:58 PM »
The sheer idiocy demonstrated by some people in this thread is stunning...

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2014, 02:40:12 PM »
The sheer idiocy demonstrated by some people in this thread is stunning...

No shit.  It's laughable that once his own words and logic is used against him, the only solution is to try to play wordsmith and split hairs to make it sound any less stupid.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2014, 02:42:47 PM »
Yes, you compared Ronnie Coleman to Dr. Carson.  Good luck with that retarded logic of yours.  Training is good for the brain too.  Good move.  Have a good workout.  

And I'm sure you'll be quoting yourself again.   :)

I sure did compare them.  With the comparison being their current political accomplishments.  Which neither one has any. 

Worth repeating :

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If any comment I have made seems dumb, then it should.  Seeing how I am using your own words and thoughts as an example.

Continue arguing against your own logic and words.  It's actually quite amusing.  But when the rest of us laughs, it is at you, not with you. 

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2014, 10:20:45 AM »
The Republican Presidential Contender Everyone’s Overlooking
Ohio Gov. John Kasich is serious about running for president, and he’d be a formidable candidate.
By Josh Kraushaar
January 29, 2014

For a party that's accustomed to nominating the next-in-line presidential candidate, 2016 promises to be a very unusual year for the Republican Party. For the first time in decades, the GOP has no clear front-runner or even an establishment favorite at this early stage.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie looked poised to fill that role, but his home-state scandals are endangering any national bid before it even gets underway. Jeb Bush would be an obvious contender, but Republican officials are skeptical he'd jump into the ring—all too cognizant of the baggage his last name brings. Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker might be able to transcend the gap between the tea party and the establishment, but he still faces a challenging reelection back home. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida lost some cachet after his high-profile advocacy of immigration reform foundered.

But there's one candidate who isn't generating much buzz and whose résumé compares favorably with any of the top-tier candidates. He's a battleground-state governor who's looking in strong position to win a second term. He defeated one of the more popular Democratic governors in the country, who happened to be a major Clinton ally. He's from the Midwest, likely to be the critical region in the 2016 presidential election. He entered office as a prominent fiscal conservative but compromised on Medicaid expansion. And most important, Republican officials familiar with his thinking say he's seriously considering a presidential campaign.

Enter Ohio Gov. John Kasich, the swing-state executive who's currently polling at microscopic levels nationally but who could have an outsized impact on the 2016 race.

"The presidential nominee is likely to be a governor, and, frankly, Kasich is as well situated as anybody. This is a guy who can connect with a crowd, he can emote, he's got blue-collar roots, and he identifies with average folks. He's certainly no Romney," said former NRCC Chairman Tom Davis, who served with Kasich in Congress. "In my opinion, he's the total package. And I think he's interested."

By all accounts, Kasich shouldn't be considered a sleeper. As governor, he's presided over a Rust Belt renaissance, with the state's unemployment rate dropping from one of the highest in the country in 2009 (10.6 percent) to around the national average (7.2 percent) last month. In 2013, Kasich signed a sizable tax cut thanks to the state's newfound budget surplus. Kasich was among the first Republicans to tout the party's need to reach out to the disadvantaged, and he lived up to his rhetoric by passing prison-sentencing reform with support from African-American legislators.

He ran for president before in 2000, parlaying his role passing four balanced budgets with Bill Clinton as a main selling point of the campaign. In effect, he was Paul Ryan before Ryan was elected to Congress. But he barely made a dent in a year when George W. Bush secured early support from party leaders.

"Mitt Romney's biggest problem was the perception he didn't care—that's a Republican Achilles' heel almost built into the party," said former Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer. "It would be constructive to have a candidate who could diminish that gap because they're cut from a different cloth, they have a proven track record of helping the poor and middle-class, and their policies show it. For people like John Kasich, he feels it as a social calling. That has the potential to be attractive so long as it's matched with conservative ideology."

Indeed, Kasich's governing message in Ohio sounds awfully similar to the "compassionate conservative" brand that Bush himself employed so successfully in 2000. Last August, Kasich told The Wall Street Journal: "I have a chance to show what it means to be successful economically, but also to have a compassionate side, a caring side, to help lift people up."

Kasich's narrow gubernatorial victory in 2010 was also notable for the coalition he built to victory: He was one of the rare Republican candidates who performed better with upscale voters than the working-class whites who make up the GOP's base. Among college-educated whites, Kasich won a remarkable 63 percent of the vote, while noncollege whites backed him with 54 percent. Democrats attacked him for his wealth and his role as managing director for Lehman Brothers before the recession, but the populist attacks backfired among the state's managerial class. Like Christie, Kasich could be well-positioned to win a second term by racking up unusually high support from traditionally Democratic constituencies. A November Quinnipiac survey showed his job-approval rating at a healthy 52 percent, with the governor winning top marks from 32 percent of Democrats, 33 percent of African-Americans, and 49 percent of young (18-29) voters. He's maintained his appeal with college-educated Ohioans, with 55 percent approving.

"He's reached out to the African-American community, and has promoted a few issues the black community cares about—like Medicaid [expansion] and the prison issue," said Columbus mayor Michael Coleman, a Democrat. "The question becomes are they going to come out for his opponent. His opponent will have to work the black community and show support for issues that the black community supports."

This year, Kasich will be facing a well-regarded Democratic opponent—Cuyahoga County Executive Ed FitzGerald—and he's far from a shoo-in. But a resounding second-term victory would be more impressive than Christie's landslide win, given that he's facing a challenger who's getting support and financial help from the national party.

To be sure, Kasich has his vulnerabilities with the base. He'd be one of the few Republican governors to embrace Medicaid expansion in his home state, a sticking point for many conservatives. After unsuccessfully trying to limit collective-bargaining rights, he's smoothed over relations with unions. As a congressman, he backed the Clinton assault-weapons ban in the 1990s, even though he now believes it wasn't very effective.

Some skeptics view Kasich as too undisciplined for the rigor of a presidential campaign. There's a boatload of footage for opposition researchers to pore through, from when he guest-hosted The O'Reilly Factor and hosted his own weekend show on Fox News a decade ago.

But he's also got a tailor-made narrative for a presidential campaign: He's an economic turnaround specialist who helped balance four budgets in Congress and turned around his state's struggling fiscal situation in three years. Christie received outsized national attention governing next to the media capital of the world, but Ohio is a more populous, electorally-significant state.

"Kasich holds the coalition together," Davis said. "You take a look at the states in play, and Ohio is a must. No Republican has been elected president without winning Ohio."

http://www.nationaljournal.com/against-the-grain/the-republican-presidential-contender-everyone-s-overlooking-20140129

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #64 on: January 30, 2014, 11:39:11 AM »
come on in, John!
we'll get bigger crazy clown van just to make room.
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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #65 on: January 30, 2014, 05:32:18 PM »
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Mitt Romney Is the 2016 Republican Front-Runner
This is not an "Onion" story.
By Matt Vasilogambros
January 30, 2014

Mitt Romney leads the Republican field among New Hampshire primary voters for 2016. Yes, you read that right.

Why not make it a third run for president? That's something that the former Republican nominee is definitely not thinking about right now. To put it in his own recent words: "Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no."

But that didn't stop the Virginia-based bipartisan policy firm Purple Strategies from adding his name to a recent survey for Granite State voters, which shows Romney in the lead with 25 percent support. Libertarian firebrand Rand Paul (who has strong infrastructure in New Hampshire) and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie are behind with 18 percent and 17 percent support, respectively.

We might be experiencing Mittmentum 3.0. The Netflix documentary about his 2008 and 2012 presidential campaigns was recently released to the excitement of political insiders everywhere. GOP insiders want him to come back: "You know what a lot of them say to me?" an anonymous "operative" told BuzzFeed. "I think we need Mitt back." Romney was even on Late Night With Jimmy Fallon to slow jam the news.

So are we sure he's not running again? "People are always gracious and say, 'Oh, you should run again,' " he said in an interview earlier this month. "I'm not running again."

He's done this kind of race before. He's got the staff. He's got the loyalty. He has the money. Time has passed.

Is there a chance? "I think that Chris Christie and Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush and Scott Walker, and the list goes on, have a much better chance of doing that," he said in the same interview, "and so I will support one of them as they become the nominee."

Maybe, maybe not.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/mitt-romney-is-the-2016-republican-front-runner-20140130

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #66 on: January 31, 2014, 08:32:33 AM »
Ryan: 'Not closing my options' on 2016
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(CNN) – Conservative Wisconsin GOP Rep. Paul Ryan isn't shutting any doors to 2016.

"I'm not closing my options," the 2012 vice Republican presidential nominee told CNN Chief Washington Correspondent Jake Tapper in an interview appearing on "The Lead" Thursday. "But I'm just not focusing on that right now.”

Ryan brushed off a new national survey showing him leading a wide field of possible Republican White House hopefuls.

"I feel good that some people like me in a poll. That and $3 basically gets me a cup of coffee as far as I’m concerned," he said.

"Right now, we've got things to do in this Congress, in 2014. So we shouldn't be clouding our judgment as to how this helps us or what we're going to do two years from now when Americans are hurting today."

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who comes in slightly behind Ryan in the Washington Post/ABC News poll, hasn't denied interest in launching a campaign either.

Bush told a CNN affiliate in Florida Wednesday that he'd make a call on 2016 later this year, and that his decision would be based on whether he could serve "joyfully" as a candidate.

"I wouldn’t do it if I couldn't do it joyfully," Ryan said when asked about Bush's comments.

"I'm a believer in the Ronald Reagan, Jack Kemp school of politics - which is inclusive, which is aspirational, appealing to people's better selves - not so much praying on the emotions of fear, envy and anxiety like a lot people cynically do these days."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/30/ryan-not-closing-my-options-on-2016/

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #67 on: February 04, 2014, 10:35:02 AM »
Romney not intending to make another presidential run
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Washington (CNN) – A prime seat at the Super Bowl. A flattering documentary. A funny turn on “Late Night with Jimmy Fallon.”  No doubt about it: Mitt Romney has been back in the spotlight recently. But does it all add up to him making a third run for the Republican presidential nomination?

No, according to multiple sources close to the 2012 Republican presidential nominee.

While the ex-candidate is clearly enjoying all the good karma - which comes amid a bad month for Chris Christie —sources close to Romney say the nascent draft-Mitt idea, such as it is, is organic and not coming from him or his wife, Ann, or anyone close to them.

In fact, the chatter is coming from some Republican donors who understand how much money it will take for a GOP candidate to compete against the presumed Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, if she does run.

If Christie’s troubles continue, and former Fla. Gov. Jeb Bush decides not to run, the theory is that Romney could, perhaps, become attractive.

He’s been seen in a more attractive light lately with the Netflix documentary “Mitt.”  But sources close to the Romneys say Ann Romney and the family aren’t likely to want to go through a campaign again.

Romney told CNN last June he would not enter the fray again.

“It was hard work. I said it was like a roller coaster. Yes, there are ups and down. But, but you still pay to get on the roller coaster. It’s a real thrill and experience that we will never forget. And frankly, I’d do it again.”

But when asked that he would, Romney explained: “I would do it again, but it’s not my time. Ann might not … but I would love to do it again, are you kidding? I’d love to do it and win. But it’s not my time. I’ve had my chance.”

In fact, Romney’s generational handover would probably go to Rep. Paul Ryan, his former running mate. Romney often points to Ryan as an example of a legislator who can get things done. And, don’t forget, he hired him as his “junior partner” in the campaign.

And while the ex-Romneyites don’t want to comment on the record, one source says that while a new campaign isn’t happening, all this chatter “must make him feel good.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/03/romney-not-intending-to-make-another-presidential-run/?hpt=po_c2

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #68 on: February 05, 2014, 09:15:24 AM »
PAUL, TRUMP, HUCKABEE, LEE TO HEADLINE NEW HAMPSHIRE EVENT
by MATTHEW BOYLE 
4 Feb 2014 T

Maybe it's too early to call it an official 2016 “cattle call,” but the group of Republicans headlining an April New Hampshire event is going to get a lot of tongues wagging.

Featured speakers include Sens. Rand Paul (R-KY) and Mike Lee (R-UT), Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), Donald Trump, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, and American Enterprise Institute (AEI) President Arthur Brooks.

Citizens United and Americans For Prosperity Foundation are joining forces to host the April 12 event, titled the “Freedom Summit,” in Manchester, New Hampshire. Breitbart News will be live broadcasting the event online on Breitbart TV.

“Set just three days before most Americans have to file their income taxes to pay for the burgeoning federal government, our Freedom Summit will provide an excellent opportunity for the hard-working people of New Hampshire to compare and contrast the direction in which our country is headed and how their tax dollars are being spent,” AFP Foundation president Tim Phillips said in a release.

Hosts say the event, from two conservative groups with close ties to grassroots activists, lays down an early marker in terms of who will be taking charge of 2016-related political events.

“We believe that this time around, the grassroots of the party should be the ones who lead,” Citizens United president David Bossie told Breitbart News. “We are so excited to host an event where the people who are fighting for conservative principles on the front lines daily get to start the conversation about where this country is heading and how it should be led going forward. This event is going to be attended by some of the biggest, more important voices in the movement as they open up a dialogue about individual liberty and the damage done by Big Government. I am honored to team up with Americans for Prosperity Foundation on this event and we are so excited that Breitbart will be live-streaming this event so grassroots conservative activists across the country will be able to also be a part of this ongoing conversation.”

Greg Moore, the state director of AFP New Hampshire, said the gathering would be the “political event of the year in the Granite State."

Of the confirmed speakers, Paul is among the first-tier presidential aspirants, while Gingrich and Huckabee have previously run and haven't ruled it out for 2016. Trump has frequently toyed with the idea as well.

Paul said he's looking forward to the event and loves what New Hampshire stands for. “I always feel at home anytime the motto is 'Live Free or Die,'" he said.

“I’m very excited and honored to be attending the AFP and Citizens United event,” Trump said. “It’s always great to be back in New Hampshire. See you there,” Trump said.

Lee is unlikely to run for president but has emerged as a key conservative leader in the Senate. He said the event will allow conservatives to forge a new reform agenda.

“After five years of Barack Obama, America cannot afford to continue down a path that leads to bigger, more expensive, more intrusive government,” Lee said in an email to Breitbart News. “To move in the right direction, we need conservatives around the country laying out a new, innovative reform agenda. The Freedom Summit is a great opportunity to engage in that debate and show people of every political stripe that conservatives have policy proposals that will work – and get people back to work,” Lee said.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/04/Paul-Gingrich-Huckabee-to-Headline-NH-Event

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« Reply #69 on: February 05, 2014, 09:18:50 AM »
PAUL, TRUMP, HUCKABEE, LEE TO HEADLINE NEW HAMPSHIRE EVENT

You know it has to drive the REAL republicans like Rand Paul crazy... having to bring along a lifetime liberal idiot like Trump... in order to get this coverage on national news and get asses in the seats lol. 

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #70 on: February 07, 2014, 10:48:08 AM »
Sarah Palin for president? Media debate whether she’ll make a political comeback
By Howard KurtzPublished February 07, 2014
FoxNews.com

We interrupt our continuing coverage of Chris Christie to examine which Republicans have a better shot at the presidency if Christie is damaged goods.

Which is sheer speculation, of course. And that happens to be the media’s specialty.

Bill Kristol stirred up a bit of a fuss yesterday by declaring that there’s no reason Sarah Palin shouldn’t run for president. Kristol, whose Weekly Standard was a major Palin booster in 2008, didn’t predict she would win, but he said she'd have a major impact on the race.

Kristol, a former Fox News contributor, also forecast on “Morning Joe” that two other Fox contributors would run: Mike Huckabee and former U.N ambassador John Bolton. (Both have said they’re looking at the race.)

I have no inside information here, but Palin certainly wouldn’t lack for media attention. Kristol, who worked in the Bush 41 White House, is a well-connected Republican, and if this was a trial balloon, it raises intriguing questions.

On the MSNBC morning show, Chuck Todd pushed back, saying that if Palin ran it would be for “a financial reason, to get back into the spotlight. Get the speaking fees back up.”

This annoyed Kristol, who said that the establishment takes seriously such candidates as Jon Huntsman (who flopped), but dismisses the likes of Palin and Huckabee as people who “just want to make money.” Host Joe Scarborough (also named by Kristol as a 2016 dark horse) said Palin’s populist message could resonate in the GOP primaries but that she hurt herself by resigning as Alaska governor.

There are, of course, multiple reasons that folks jump into a White House race, from increased visibility to boosting career prospects to positioning for a VP slot. Just ask Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann, Dennis Kucinich, Al Sharpton and many others.

Palin has a passionate following among Tea Party types, but she would also expose herself again to mockery from the mainstream media. She would have to decide whether the grueling nature of a campaign is worth giving up her television gigs.

Much of this talk is being spurred by the Christie vacuum in the wake of the bridge scandal. Even Mitt Romney, who’s been on the TV circuit after that favorable Netflix documentary, is being asked whether he’d give it a third try. His answer is no way.

There is chatter now about other governors, such as Scott Walker. Perhaps the most important name on Kristol’s list is Jeb Bush, who says he is looking at the race but won’t decide soon. The media would immediately treat Bush as a heavyweight and he would in effect become the establishment candidate.

The dilemma for the former Florida governor is that he has openly questioned how far to the right his party has moved. He would be, fairly or not, saddled with defending his brother’s presidential record. And, by the way, Bush’s own mother doesn’t want him to run.

In The Week, Damon Linker all but declares the primaries over:

“It's beginning to dawn on me that Jeb Bush is probably going to be the Republican Party's nominee for president in 2016.

"Consider: With the ongoing implosion of Chris Christie's political career, the GOP establishment has lost its best hope for a candidate who could stop a libertarian-populist insurgency during the primaries. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Scott Walker — the list of viable fire-breathers is longer (and less dominated by incompetents, crazies, and one-note sideshow acts) than establishment types would like.”

As for the last-name problem, he says: “Yes, Jeb would be freighted by bad memories of his brother's failed presidency. But he might be helped by warm memories of his father's presidency.”

But American Conservative’s Daniel Larison strongly disagrees:

“Like his brother when he ran for president, Jeb Bush has no foreign policy experience to speak of, and to the best of my knowledge he has never shown much interest in the subject. Given his brother’s disastrous record, I doubt that enough Republicans would want to take that kind of chance again.

“Considering the state that the last Bush left the GOP in, there can’t be very many Republicans that want to turn to that family a third time for leadership.”

Bottom line: The Republican Party is trying to find someone who can beat Hillary Clinton. A Palin-Hillary race would be absolute gold for the press. And a Bush-Clinton race would conjure memories of 1992, a clash between two royal political families that never seem to leave the scene. Assuming, that is, that one or both of them run.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/07/sarah-palin-for-president-media-debate-whether-shell-make-political-comeback/?intcmp=latestnews

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #71 on: February 08, 2014, 09:31:34 PM »
Sarah Palin for president? Media debate whether she’ll make a political comeback
By Howard KurtzPublished February 07, 2014
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We interrupt our continuing coverage of Chris Christie to examine which Republicans have a better shot at the presidency if Christie is damaged goods.

Which is sheer speculation, of course. And that happens to be the media’s specialty.

Bill Kristol stirred up a bit of a fuss yesterday by declaring that there’s no reason Sarah Palin shouldn’t run for president. Kristol, whose Weekly Standard was a major Palin booster in 2008, didn’t predict she would win, but he said she'd have a major impact on the race.

Kristol, a former Fox News contributor, also forecast on “Morning Joe” that two other Fox contributors would run: Mike Huckabee and former U.N ambassador John Bolton. (Both have said they’re looking at the race.)

I have no inside information here, but Palin certainly wouldn’t lack for media attention. Kristol, who worked in the Bush 41 White House, is a well-connected Republican, and if this was a trial balloon, it raises intriguing questions.

On the MSNBC morning show, Chuck Todd pushed back, saying that if Palin ran it would be for “a financial reason, to get back into the spotlight. Get the speaking fees back up.”

This annoyed Kristol, who said that the establishment takes seriously such candidates as Jon Huntsman (who flopped), but dismisses the likes of Palin and Huckabee as people who “just want to make money.” Host Joe Scarborough (also named by Kristol as a 2016 dark horse) said Palin’s populist message could resonate in the GOP primaries but that she hurt herself by resigning as Alaska governor.

There are, of course, multiple reasons that folks jump into a White House race, from increased visibility to boosting career prospects to positioning for a VP slot. Just ask Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann, Dennis Kucinich, Al Sharpton and many others.

Palin has a passionate following among Tea Party types, but she would also expose herself again to mockery from the mainstream media. She would have to decide whether the grueling nature of a campaign is worth giving up her television gigs.

Much of this talk is being spurred by the Christie vacuum in the wake of the bridge scandal. Even Mitt Romney, who’s been on the TV circuit after that favorable Netflix documentary, is being asked whether he’d give it a third try. His answer is no way.

There is chatter now about other governors, such as Scott Walker. Perhaps the most important name on Kristol’s list is Jeb Bush, who says he is looking at the race but won’t decide soon. The media would immediately treat Bush as a heavyweight and he would in effect become the establishment candidate.

The dilemma for the former Florida governor is that he has openly questioned how far to the right his party has moved. He would be, fairly or not, saddled with defending his brother’s presidential record. And, by the way, Bush’s own mother doesn’t want him to run.

In The Week, Damon Linker all but declares the primaries over:

“It's beginning to dawn on me that Jeb Bush is probably going to be the Republican Party's nominee for president in 2016.

"Consider: With the ongoing implosion of Chris Christie's political career, the GOP establishment has lost its best hope for a candidate who could stop a libertarian-populist insurgency during the primaries. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, Scott Walker — the list of viable fire-breathers is longer (and less dominated by incompetents, crazies, and one-note sideshow acts) than establishment types would like.”

As for the last-name problem, he says: “Yes, Jeb would be freighted by bad memories of his brother's failed presidency. But he might be helped by warm memories of his father's presidency.”

But American Conservative’s Daniel Larison strongly disagrees:

“Like his brother when he ran for president, Jeb Bush has no foreign policy experience to speak of, and to the best of my knowledge he has never shown much interest in the subject. Given his brother’s disastrous record, I doubt that enough Republicans would want to take that kind of chance again.

“Considering the state that the last Bush left the GOP in, there can’t be very many Republicans that want to turn to that family a third time for leadership.”

Bottom line: The Republican Party is trying to find someone who can beat Hillary Clinton. A Palin-Hillary race would be absolute gold for the press. And a Bush-Clinton race would conjure memories of 1992, a clash between two royal political families that never seem to leave the scene. Assuming, that is, that one or both of them run.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/07/sarah-palin-for-president-media-debate-whether-shell-make-political-comeback/?intcmp=latestnews

Sure, why not.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #72 on: March 04, 2014, 09:18:03 AM »
Rand Paul seeks Kentucky law to run for president, Senate at same time
By Ralph Z. Hallow-The Washington Times
Monday, March 3, 2014

Sen. Rand Paul may be seeking to hold on to his seat at the same time he is running for president in 2016. The Kentucky Senate majority leader confirmed Monday that he is working on an unambiguous bill that would allow Mr. Paul to do so.

Opening a door to hedge his political bets, Sen. Rand Paul has asked the leader of the Kentucky Senate for legislation to ensure that Mr. Paul can run both for the White House and for re-election to the U.S. Senate in 2016, The Washington Times has learned.

“Yes, I am working on clarifying an ambiguous state law that Rand Paul believes is unconstitutional if it is interpreted to bar running for re-election to the Senate and for president at the same time,” Kentucky Senate Majority Leader Damon Thayer told The Times on Monday.

“The purpose of the bill will be to make clear that Rand Paul or anyone in a similar situation in Kentucky can run for both offices in the same year,” Mr. Thayer explained.

If things go Mr. Paul’s way, he could win the GOP presidential nomination, then run in the fall 2016 general election for the presidency and to retain his U.S. Senate seat. If he wins the presidency and the Senate re-election bid, he would relinquish his Senate seat.

If he loses the presidential election but wins the Senate re-election race, he would become a second-term U.S. senator from Kentucky.

Since winning his election in 2010, Mr. Paul has argued for creating term limits so members of Congress could serve a maximum of 12 years in each chamber.

Mr. Paul and his office did not immediately respond to requests for comment Monday. But in a recent C-SPAN “Newsmakers” program, Mr. Paul said he and his team were looking at the possibility of running for the Senate and the White House simultaneously.

“We just haven’t come to a conclusion yet,” he said at the time.

The situation has grown more complicated for Mr. Paul since his election in 2010. His fellow Kentucky Republican, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, faces a serious challenge from the political right in his own party.

If Mr. McConnell falls to the tea party candidate in the May primary or if a Democrat defeats Mr. McConnell in November, then Mr. Paul would become the senior U.S. senator from Kentucky. As such, he probably would become the recognized leader of his party in the state.

Fellow Republicans are counting on Mr. Paul to help them keep the state Senate from tipping to Democrats. The Kentucky state House already is controlled by Democrats.

Democrats have problems of their own in the state, including a sex scandal and accusations of a cover-up. Republicans think they have a shot at taking the House this fall, giving them two of the three power centers in state government. Gov. Steven L. Beshear is a Democrat.

A veteran Republican Party operative in Kentucky said privately that House Speaker Greg Stumbo, a Democrat, has told colleagues there is no way he would allow such a bill to go through his chamber.

“I’ve not spoken to the speaker about this and not heard publicly or privately what the Democrats in the House would do if Republicans passed it in the Senate,” Mr. Thayer said.

Mr. Stumbo did not return a phone call from The Times on Monday.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #73 on: March 04, 2014, 10:02:45 AM »
Rand Paul seeks Kentucky law to run for president, Senate at same time
By Ralph Z. Hallow-The Washington Times
Monday, March 3, 2014
 

I dont think any politician from any party should be able to do this. 

It really de-legitimizes the KY race.  "I dont really want this job, but it's a great backup plan, and you guys will just have to take whoever I assign to take over..."

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2014, 11:24:20 AM »
I hope he runs.  He would be good to have in the race.

Marco Rubio aims for comeback with conservatives
Rubio denies he dropped the immigration push for political purposes.
By MANU RAJU | 3/3/14

Marco Rubio probably wouldn’t have been the biggest draw in Alabama last year, but last week he had big donors dropping big checks.

The Florida Republican, who championed the Senate immigration bill last year, swung by a state that has taken a tough stand against illegal immigrants and has repeatedly elected the chief opponent of the Senate plan. But last Thursday evening, deep-pocketed Birmingham donors paid up to $32,000 apiece to schmooze with Rubio, raising more than $300,000 for the Senate GOP campaign committee.

Rubio’s foray into the Deep South shows how quickly he has tried to put the bitter immigration fight behind him as he positions himself for what close allies say is an increasingly likely presidential bid in 2016. He is now raising his profile by demanding a more aggressive U.S. response to Russia in the Ukraine crisis, showcasing how the senator has embraced more hawkish foreign policy views than several of his would-be 2016 rivals, like Sens. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.

After dropping his push on immigration, Rubio is seeking to rehabilitate his image with much of the GOP base by falling back on his staunch conservative ideology while engaging in a calculated effort to broaden his domestic and foreign policy portfolio. He’s becoming a regular fundraising presence on the campaign trail and plans to play a big role in a handful of key midterm races this fall.

A contingent on the right will never forgive him for backing a bill offering a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, and his critics say he jettisoned the plan strictly to preserve his political standing. But in interviews with numerous GOP leaders and influential conservative activists in early primary states, his new push seems to have won over one-time skeptics who are now more open to a prospective Rubio candidacy.

Rubio, who plans to make a decision on whether to run for president either later this year or in early 2015, denies he dropped the immigration push for political purposes. But he acknowledges that his role in the immigration push took a toll on him politically.

“I’m sure there are people who are unhappy with what I did on immigration and will never be supportive of me again,” Rubio said in an interview in the Capitol last week. “But by and large, I think if you look at my approval ratings in different metrics that are out there, I feel like many of my supporters maybe disagreed with me on immigration — and disagreed strongly — but they understand that I’ve been involved in other issues that are important for the country.”

That includes the growing crisis in Ukraine. While his outspokenness on Ukraine could play well with the hawkish wing of his party, it could turn off the GOP’s libertarian faction that is growing more influential. Rubio’s effort to regain conservatives’ trust will be measured on Thursday, when he addresses the annual gathering of the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

“I believe people will give him on one issue quite a bit of room,” said Sen. Chuck Grassley, the influential Iowa Republican, when asked about the fallout for Rubio’s stance on immigration. “He’s already eight months away from what he did on immigration, and he’s taken on so many other issues to cloud that whole issue.”

Polls show the 2016 GOP presidential race is a wide-open affair, as the 42-year-old Rubio sits on a multimillion dollar war chest — some $2.6 million in his various campaign accounts. Rubio plans to make an appearance in at least one of the early primary states sometime this year, according to several people familiar with the matter, in what will almost certainly intensify chatter about his prospective run. His would-be GOP 2016 rivals, like Paul and Cruz, have already done just that.

Still, some conservatives from early primary states are decidedly skeptical.

“Rubio’s name never comes up here as it relates to presidential politics — except to express disappointment at how he wasted such tremendous potential on the largest Democrat Party voter drive in history,” said Steve Deace, a Des Moines-based conservative talk radio host.

But a range of other conservatives in the early primary states argued that the immigration issue is hardly a death knell for Rubio.

“I was never of the opinion Sen. Rubio suffered irreparable harm among Iowa conservatives during the immigration debate,” said Matt Strawn, the former Iowa GOP chairman.

As a co-author of the sweeping immigration bill that passed the Senate last June, Rubio has had to fend off accusations from conservatives that the legislation would provide “amnesty” to the nation’s 11 million undocumented immigrants. And once the bill passed the Senate last June, he abandoned his advocacy of the plan as House conservatives bashed it.

Rubio refused to pressure House Republicans into taking up the Senate bill, angering proponents of the legislation but endearing himself to the right. He has instead moved on to other issues that fire up the conservative base, such as joining Cruz in the battle to defund Obamacare, and pushed legislation to repeal what Republicans call the “insurance bailout” — a temporary provision in the law allowing the government to backstop some higher-than-anticipated costs for health insurers.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/marco-rubio-aims-for-comeback-with-conservatives-104154.html#ixzz2v1WW6KdE