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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #275 on: October 15, 2014, 11:10:12 AM »
Iowa Poll: Romney, Carson Top Picks for GOP 2016 Nominee
Wednesday, 15 Oct 2014
By Sandy Fitzgerald

Former Republican GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, who says he won't mount a third presidential campaign, came in first among potential candidates in a new Iowa poll, with retired Baltimore neurosurgeon Ben Carson, a political newcomer, coming in second place.

But overall, the latest Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics Iowa Poll shows that the state's Republicans are nowhere near a consensus on who to place on the ticket, The Register reported Tuesday.

Out of 425 Republicans likely to attend the 2016 GOP caucuses, 17 percent picked Romney as their first choice for the nomination, followed by Carson, with 11 percent. Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee were very close behind Carson, with 10 percent of the respondents picking Paul as first choice and 9 percent for Huckabee.

The poll carried a margin of error of plus or minus 4.8 percentage points.

The field narrowed when it came to picking first or second choices. Romney came in first  when the first and second choices were combined, followed by Carson, Paul, and Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan each netted a combined 18 percent. Ryan was the first choice of 8 percent of the voters, but second choice for 10 percent, bumping his combined score up.

Many of the potential candidates have already been visiting Iowa, including Romney, who says he's not running but was still in the state this month to campaign for Republican Senate candidate Joni Ernst, reports The Register.

Many of the names in the poll were likely chosen because they are familiar political names, like Romney's. But Carson has never been a politician and has still gained national attention for his fierce opposition to Obamacare.

"I love Ben Carson," poll participant Cynthia Michel told The Register. "I like his no-nonsense thinking and his ability to say what he thinks and get his point across in a way that's not mumbo-jumbo political-speak."

Michel, 68, also likes that Carson has never held a political elective office.

"I think it would maybe be a good thing to have someone who's not schooled in the way of saying what you think people want to hear," she said.

Poll director J. Ann Seltzer said some candidates were favored more by certain factions in the party. For example, tea party supporters were likely to choose Carson and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, but Paul was popular among caucus participants under the age of 45. Women tended to choose Romney, and Ryan was favored by moderates.

Meanwhile, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who narrowly defeated Romney to win the Iowa caucuses in 2012, fared poorly in the poll. He was the first choice of only 3 percent and second choice of 5 percent of the participants.

He has suggested he may run again, and is planning to attend events Wednesday in Dubuque and Davenport.

The Iowa Poll was conducted on Oct. 1-7 by Selzer & Co. of Des Moines, and based on telephone interviews with 425 registered voters who say they definitely or probably will attend the 2016 Republican caucuses, and 426 registered Iowa voters who say they definitely or probably will attend the 2016 Democratic caucuses.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #276 on: October 15, 2014, 01:37:18 PM »
Draft Ben Carson group raises over $10 million, on 'verge' of announcing
BY PAUL BEDARD | OCTOBER 15, 2014

If money talks in politics, then get ready for conservative populist Ben Carson to start campaigning for president.

The Draft Ben Carson for President Committee, which has been urging the celebrated doctor and Obamacare critic to run, on Tuesday said it has surpassed $10 million in donations. And at least one news outlet reports that he is on the “verge” of announcing.

“The great success of the draft effort is a testament to our belief that it is Dr. Carson who is best equipped to heal our country,” said committee campaign director Vernon Robinson.

The committee Tuesday morning released fundraising totals and said it collected $3.3 million in the third quarter of 2014. Overall, they have received money from 100,000 donors, and claim a volunteer base of over 20,000

“Thousands of Americans believe that Dr. Carson is the best hope for our country, and are showing overwhelming support for him to run for the GOP nomination in the 2016,” said Robinson. “Legions of supporters are signing the petition for him to run for president and are contributing to the effort because they want a president who is principled, honest and caring.”

They have been operating a petition drive to encourage Carson to run and claim that the African-American most noted for being the first surgeon to successfully separate conjoined twins joined at the head is listening and ready to toss his hat into the ring.

“Dr. Carson has said he will listen to the clamor of those who want him to run, and is closer to making a decision about running for the GOP presidential nomination. We hope that our continued efforts will achieve that goal,” said John Philip Sousa IV, national chairman of the National Draft Ben Carson for President Committee.

Polls often have Carson near the top of GOP presidential polls and news outlets, including Bloomberg, claim he is on the “verge” of announcing.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/draft-ben-carson-group-raises-over-10-million-on-verge-of-announcing/article/2554816

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #277 on: October 15, 2014, 05:21:13 PM »
it'll be 5 minutes before FOX base turns on Ben Carson, despite him being 10000% of what the party needs.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #278 on: October 15, 2014, 05:37:31 PM »
LOL @ ben carson and mitt romney even being in the same fcking political party haha.  oh brother.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #279 on: October 27, 2014, 04:20:38 PM »
Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee Are on a Collision Course as Evangelicals Audition 2016 Contenders
Social conservatives are desperate to settle on a single candidate earlier than ever to avoid another "moderate" as the GOP nominee.
BY TIM ALBERTA AND SHANE GOLDMACHER
October 26, 2014

When Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee were asked to deliver dueling speeches at a secret gathering of America's most influential socialconservatives, both camps knew what the invitation represented: a private audition to be the evangelical movement's presidential candidate in 2016.

They prepared accordingly, and on back-to-back nights in mid-September, the White House hopefuls delivered impassioned addresses to the Council for National Policy's clandestine conference in Atlanta.

The courtship of Christian leaders by White House contenders—"the evangelical primary," as some call it—has become a staple of Republican presidential politics. But this year is different.

After back-to-back cycles in which social conservatives failed to coalesce around a single candidate—resulting, they believe, in the nomination of moderates who haven't mobilized the Christian base to vote in November—evangelical leaders are acting early and with unprecedented urgency. In a series of private meetings over the past two months in Washington, Iowa, Florida, and elsewhere, Christian political leaders have emphasized narrowing their options sooner than ever and uniting behind one candidate to defeat the establishment favorite.

The Atlanta event, then, signaled not just that the 2016 evangelical primary is well underway but that for many leading social conservatives, the field is already winnowing.


"Those are the two," Family Research Council President Tony Perkins said of Cruz and Huckabee. "And they share the same core base, so I do think there's probably only room for one of them to be successful."

Perkins is not alone in this view. Conversations with some of the country's most influential and well-connected evangelical power-brokers suggest an emerging consensus—out of private gatherings like CNP as well as public events like the Values Voters Summit—that 2016 is shaping up as a two-horse race. Even a senior adviser to former Sen. Rick Santorum, who won Iowa in 2012 and is considering another run, admitted that talk of Cruz and Huckabee distancing themselves from the field is "accurate."

It's still early, and neither Cruz nor Huckabee has stated publicly their intention to run in 2016. But the Texas senator has sent clear signals to his allies that he's planning to jump in, perhaps as soon as the end of this year; and the former Arkansas governor has left little doubt in private meetings with Christian leaders and GOP consultants that a campaign is imminent.

Of course, the race to win evangelical hearts (and wallets) is only part of the GOP's 2016 nominating contest. More establishment-allied Republicans—Gov. Chris Christie, Sen. Marco Rubio, Gov. John Kasich, Rep. Paul Ryan, former Gov. Jeb Bush—all are considering a bid. Sen. Rand Paul is perhaps the farthest along in the planning, though also the hardest to pin within the traditional GOP structures.

But the early indicators of a head-to-head contest for the social-conservative contingent could have a significant impact on the Republican primary season. And both the Cruz and Huckabee camps know it.

In recent months, allies of both men have eyed one another as mutual threats in the quest to win the evangelical endorsement—and have even launched early efforts to undermine the other. Cruz allies have suggested that conservatives won't be able to ignore Huckabee's questionable fiscal record; Huckabee's team has questioned Cruz's ability to connect with religious audiences.

While some have doubted aloud whether Huckabee will run, as he sits comfortably hosting a Fox News program and singing the praises of the Florida beach life, his travel schedule and rhetoric are suggesting otherwise.

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"Ted Cruz is a cage rattler who likes to get out there and talk about limited government and defunding Obamacare and so on. But when it comes to connecting with the faith community nobody does it better than Mike Huckabee," said Alice Stewart, Huckabee's spokeswoman and senior adviser. "When it comes to rallying social conservatives, Ted Cruz doesn't hold a candle to Mike Huckabee."

Stewart continued: "We've been to a lot of the events where Ted Cruz and his dad speak. And listen, Rafael Cruz is not running for president. That's what a lot of people forget—when it comes to a social conservative crowd, it's Rafael Cruz, not Ted Cruz, who really connects with them."

Team Cruz, wary of fueling the perception that the Texas senator plans to slash-and-burn his way to the nomination, took the high road in response.

"I like and respect Mike Huckabee. He is a strong, positive voice for life and marriage—at a time when so many others refuse to speak out—and he encourages others to stand up for their values," Cruz said in a statement to National Journal. "I've been proud to stand with Gov. Huckabee, and I look forward to our continuing to work together to help turn our nation around."

Still, the narrative of a Cruz-Huckabee rivalry has cemented so quickly that, according to several neutral attendees of the CNP event in Atlanta, audience members felt like judges scoring a heavyweight title bout. The decision, each of these people said independently of one another, went to Huckabee.

"Huck just connects with that audience better," said one of the event's organizers, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of its strict off-the-record rules. "Cruz was like a hyper lawyer roaming the stage and making a factual argument to a jury. Huckabee was like a friendly preacher speaking from the pulpit and appealing to emotion. Just two totally different styles."

STILL, THE FIELD IS CROWDED

While Huckabee and Cruz were the only invited speakers that night, they're hardly the only Republican contenders actively courting the evangelical vote.

In mid-August, when, after a long day of speeches to an annual summit of conservatives in Iowa, a swarm of 2016 hopefuls descended on a house party in Ames. There, joining about 150 of the state's top conservative activists and powerbrokers were Cruz and Huckabee, along with Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and Texas Gov. Rick Perry. (Santorum would have been there, but he had to attend a wedding elsewhere in Iowa.) There were no speeches in this intimate setting—just finger food, lemonade, coffee, and lots of early elbowing.

There are other potentially viable contenders, but Santorum, the 2012 runner-up, is perceived by many top social conservatives as one of the very few who might be able to crack the Huckabee-Cruz competition.

"And frankly I'm not sure there's going to be much time for anybody else to get in," Perkins said of the strength of Cruz, Huckabee and Santorum, "because I do think you're going to see conservatives very possibly coalesce around a candidate fairly early in the process, while it would still have some significance."

TOO SOON?

All of this seems exceedingly premature, of course, considering the 2014 congressional elections have yet to occur. But to conservative leaders and activists still stung by the presidential primary results of cycles past, the only way to avoid a repeat—and another "moderate" nominee—is to act preemptively.

"There is a determination in the movement not to be divided in 2016. There is more conversation now about coalescing behind one candidate than there's ever been before," said Steve Deace, a popular Christian conservative radio host in Iowa. "We've watched what happened the last two times when we split our base."

Bob Vander Plaats, president of The Family Leader and one of Iowa's leading evangelical activists, has witnessed firsthand the consequence of conservatives waiting too long to agree on a candidate. He was chairman of Huckabee's winning Iowa campaign in 2008, but watched as Mitt Romney (then a conservative favorite) and Fred Thompson splintered the conservative vote and allowed McCain to take the nomination.

Four years later, Vander Plaats endorsed Santorum before Iowa's caucuses—but many of his allies held back, allowing Perry, Newt Gingrich, and others to siphon off conservative support and let Romney (now the establishment favorite) run uncontested up the middle.

This time, Vander Plaats said, conservatives understand the importance of rallying around one person early.

"They saw 2008. They saw 2012. They saw that when we divide our support we get who we don't want," Vander Plaats said. "You're going to get McCain or you're going to get Romney."

COURTING THE RAINMAKER

Cruz and Huckabee both have been courting Perkins, who's regarded as the chief rainmaker in evangelical politics. (In fact, during one recent stretch, Perkins said he spent five of six weekends with either Cruz or Huckabee—or both.) Cruz has paid a multiple visits to the early, evangelical-friendly states of Iowa and South Carolina this year. Huckabee has done the same—and, for good measure, is traveling with a group of nearly two-dozen Christian leaders from those states on a 10-day European trip next month.

Santorum supporters are quick to point out that he, too, has maintained a strong presence in Iowa this year—and, like Huckabee and Cruz, appears increasingly likely to run in 2016. In fact, Santorum and Huckabee appeared at the same Iowa Republican office in Sioux City last week—on back-to-back days.

Perry has been to the state repeatedly, too; Vander Plaats joked he could be running for "governor of Iowa." All have faithful followings in Iowa and elsewhere, making the goal of unifying early behind a single conservative candidate so difficult to achieve.

"It would take a Herculean effort to unite all of these people and all of these organizations," said one prominent conservative activist with ties to multiple contenders. "I mean, [Ronald] Reagan didn't even get that treatment."

Or, as Perkins summarized the talk: "It's easy to say, but hard to do."

As the August house party demonstrated, there certainly will be further competition for evangelical support—even if their efforts aren't as advanced. Besides Jindal and Perry, there are other names—surgeon Ben Carson, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker—mentioned as potential dark-horse candidates. (Walker, however, alienated some potential allies by saying the gay-marriage fight is "over" in Wisconsin. "Whatever air was in that balloon is gone," Vander Plaats said.)

Still, as evangelical leaders approach 2016 with unprecedented urgency and emphasis on coordination, it appears the decision to collectively endorse one person may come down to two very different candidates: Huckabee, the once-ran preacher with inimitable charm and religious bonafides; or Cruz, the fresh-faced agitator who refuses to compromise or play nice with his party's establishment.

"People love Cruz," Vander Plaats said during a recent interview in Iowa. "With one caveat."

That caveat has a name: Mike Huckabee.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/ted-cruz-and-mike-huckabee-are-on-a-collision-course-as-evangelicals-audition-2016-contenders-20141025

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #280 on: October 28, 2014, 11:26:07 AM »
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Dole on Romney: 'I want him to run again'
By Eric Bradner, CNN
Tue October 28, 2014

(CNN) -- One-time Republican presidential nominee Bob Dole has his candidate for 2016: Mitt Romney.

Dole, a 91-year-old former Senate majority leader and 1996 GOP presidential nominee, said as he introduced Romney, the party's 2012 nominee, during a campaign rally Monday: "I want him to run again."

Dole and Romney were in Overland Park campaigning for Kansas Republican Sen. Pat Roberts, who faces a stiff challenge from independent businessman Greg Orman.

Romney brushed off the remark. "You never know what a 90-year-old is going to say, do you?" he said. "I'll tell ya."

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #281 on: November 04, 2014, 08:45:09 AM »
Going nowhere.

Updated: First-in-the-nation kickoff? Rick Perry in NH Sunday, Bob Ehrlich to return Friday
Posted By John DiStaso on Nov 3, 2014

Just three days after the polls close for the mid-term election, the first-in-the-nation presidential primary campaign will unofficially get underway on Friday as former Maryland Gov. Bob Ehrlich returns to New Hampshire, while   Texas Gov. Rick Perry returns on Sunday for a two-day visit.
 
Perry is  not an announced candidate, of course, but he appears headed toward a run. He had to postpone a visit to the state in early October due to the Ebola situation in his state.
 
Perry is scheduled for six stops, three on Sunday, Nov. 9, and and three more on Monday, Nov. 10.
 
Ehrlich, who is also being mentioned as a potential 2016 candidate will headline the Strafford County Republican Committee’s “First Annual Red Dinner,” billed as a “celebration of GOP victories” in the midterms, at Cottage-By-The-Bay in Dover.
 
Meanwhile, Michael Dennehy, the state adviser to Perry’s group, Americans for Economic Freedom, said that on Sunday, the Texas governor will attend a reception with the New Hampshire Federation of Republican Women in Concord, a reception with the Sullivan County GOP in Sunapee (we’re told this is pure coincidence!), and a reception with Dartmouth College Republicans in Hanover.
 
On Monday, Perry will attend the U.S. Marine Corps 239th Birthday Luncheon in Manchester, a Keene State College Republicans roundtable and a reception with the Cheshire County GOP in Keene.
 
And so, New Hampshire, we’re off and running toward 2016.
 
While Perry was unable to get to the state during the final push for the midterms, he was generous, contributing more than $60,000 from his political action committee to state GOP committees and candidates.

http://nhjournal.com/first-in-the-nation-kickoff-rick-perry-to-return-to-nh-on-sunday-monday/

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #282 on: November 05, 2014, 07:37:10 AM »
Ryan May Sit Out Presidential Race in Congress
Wednesday, 05 Nov 2014

Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin was the first potential Republican presidential candidate of 2016 to have to decide whether to run. He's probably opting out.

After winning re-election last night, Ryan said he would seek the chairmanship of the the House Ways and Means Committee. That post would make it exceedingly difficult for him to seek the presidency next year.

When the Republicans hold their planning session for the next Congress this month, Ryan would be the favorite to succeed Representative Dave Camp of Michigan as Ways and Means chairman. In an interview on Bloomberg Television last night Ryan said he intended to seek the job.

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But Ryan also has been encouraged to go for the presidential nomination. One of the people reportedly pushing him is Mitt Romney, who selected him as his running mate in 2012. It's a wide-open race this time, the argument goes, and Ryan would be one of the favorites.

"We're going to start sorting out this presidential race quickly and Paul will be the first one," says Vin Weber, a top Republican strategist.

It's a difficult choice: No congressional committee will have a more important or fuller agenda than Ways and Means -- trade, tax reform, health care -- and Ryan is one of the foremost congressional experts on these issues. Moreover, under the current system, committee chairmen are important fundraisers for the party, and none more so than the head of Ways and Means because of the panel's wide jurisdiction over many vested interests.

A consideration for Paul, 44, is that his three children are young. A full-fledged presidential campaign, unlike his three-month quest for the vice-presidency, would demand hundreds of days away from home on the campaign trail next year.

http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/paul-ryan-white-house/2014/11/05/id/605359/#ixzz3ID0oOf2N

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #283 on: November 06, 2014, 04:18:34 PM »
Meet Ben Carson: First Republican to Throw His Hat in 2016 Ring
Nov 6, 2014
By SHUSHANNAH WALSHE


Dr. Ben Carson chats with guests at an event at the Westin Kierland Resort in Scottsdale, Ariz. on Sept. 5, 2014. Laura Segall/Getty Images

Yes, the 2016 race for the White House has already gotten started -- and it looks like Dr. Ben Carson is first in the ring.

Carson, a famous pediatric neurosurgeon and conservative political star, will air a nearly 40 minute-long ad introducing himself to the American people this weekend, an aide to Carson confirms to ABC News.

The documentary titled “A Breath of Fresh Air: A New Prescription for America” will air in 22 states and Washington, DC. The paid video will detail some of his biography and family life, including his rise from being born to a single mother with a poor childhood in Detroit to director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins for almost 40 years, known for his work separating conjoined twins, to potential 2016 presidential candidate.

How 6 Potential 2016 GOP Presidential Candidates Fared on the Campaign Trail

Carson first became a conservative star when last year he created a buzz at the National Prayer Breakfast when in front of an audience that included President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden spoke out about political correctness, health care and taxes.

He also called for a private health care savings plan and a flat tax in a speech that went viral and led to an editorial in the Wall Street Journal titled Ben Carson for President. He is known as a fierce opponent of the president’s health care law known as Obamacare.

In an ABC News/Washington Post poll from last month of the potential 2016 presidential candidates showed Carson in seventh place garnering seven percent of the vote after other notables including Jeb Bush, Mike Huckabee, Chris Christie, and Marco Rubio.

Carson has a grassroots effort to draft him for a 2016 presidential run that has raised millions for the effort. In an interview last month with Jorge Ramos on our sister network, Fusion he said he’s considering a White House run.

“No, I don’t want to be president. Why would any sane person want to do that?” Carson said, acknowledging he has noticed the support. “I think I have to consider that, with so many clamoring for me to do it.”

The Washington Times first reported the news of Carson’s video. A production company run by Armstrong Williams, a conservative commentator, is paying for the airtime. They also filmed the documentary. Williams is Carson’s business manager.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/meet-ben-carson-republican-throw-hat-2016-ring/story?id=26735300

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #284 on: November 06, 2014, 05:10:17 PM »
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #285 on: November 07, 2014, 03:20:00 AM »
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's gonna be an interesting 2 years coming up.  8)

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« Reply #286 on: November 07, 2014, 04:49:10 AM »
It's gonna be an interesting 2 years coming up.  8)

I like that Dr Carson came out immediately.  Media on both left/right won't give him the attention they'll give a "conservative" like Trump or Christie or a Herman Cain.  It's tv, it's media - they want the exciting stories.  Carson is 10x more qualified and prepared and brilliant than a Palin, for example. But if Sarah *hinted* at a run, it'd knock Carson's announcement to Page ten of the news coverage  :(  

So it's good to get in during this window of "repub gloat/dems quiet/repubs confused on amnesty" to make his impact on the republican primary voter mindset.

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« Reply #287 on: November 07, 2014, 05:14:30 AM »
I like that Dr Carson came out immediately.  Media on both left/right won't give him the attention they'll give a "conservative" like Trump or Christie or a Herman Cain.  It's tv, it's media - they want the exciting stories.  Carson is 10x more qualified and prepared and brilliant than a Palin, for example. But if Sarah *hinted* at a run, it'd knock Carson's announcement to Page ten of the news coverage  :(  

So it's good to get in during this window of "repub gloat/dems quiet/repubs confused on amnesty" to make his impact on the republican primary voter mindset.

Speaking of which...

Donald Trump Taking 'Serious Look' at 2016 Presidential Run


In the wake of Tuesday's sweeping Republican electoral victories, businessman Donald Trump told Newsmax TV on Wednesday that he will take a "very serious look" at whether to run for president in 2016.

"I'm looking," Trump, who made appearances on the Republican presidential primary trail in 2012 but never joined the race, told "MidPoint" host Ed Berliner.


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« Reply #288 on: November 07, 2014, 07:09:35 AM »
Speaking of which...

Donald Trump Taking 'Serious Look' at 2016 Presidential Run


In the wake of Tuesday's sweeping Republican electoral victories, businessman Donald Trump told Newsmax TV on Wednesday that he will take a "very serious look" at whether to run for president in 2016.

"I'm looking," Trump, who made appearances on the Republican presidential primary trail in 2012 but never joined the race, told "MidPoint" host Ed Berliner.



Yep, right on cue.  And is there ANY doubt in ANYONE'S mind that

1) Trump will get 100x the media coverage, from both left and right
2) Trump will not run, has no intention of running at all
3) Dr Carson will lose impact in the GOP and the nation with Trump stealing spotlight.

it's fine for trump, doing what he can to steal media attention, Q rating, etc.  But I hope nobody at all believes Trump gives a shit about the GOP.   He never has.  He was a lifelong lib that suddenly went tea party when that was popular.  Love notes to pelosi as recent at 2006 and 2008. Longtime liberal on most positions.  Making ten million a year from liberal ass NBC?

At some point, repubs have to call trump a piece of crap who doesn't care about the GOP winning in 2016.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #289 on: November 07, 2014, 07:13:30 AM »
Trump needs to go away - he had his chance and didn't do jack shit.   he could have run for NYS gov, Pres, whatever - and didn't do it - go away Donald

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #290 on: November 07, 2014, 07:18:59 AM »
Trump needs to go away - he had his chance and didn't do jack shit.   he could have run for NYS gov, Pres, whatever - and didn't do it - go away Donald

I think he's "had his chance" many times.  what years did he pretend to run?  1980?  92?  2000?  2008 and 2012?

He does this every time. He'll claim he's gonna drop a million "exploring", he'll tell us he has a strong extreme position on whatever the hot topic issue is (amnesty?), he'll trash obama, and the sexy number and boring other candidates will result in weeks of coverage.   BOOM every time.  Makes me sick.

Dr Carson, you are officially irrelevant now, in the media's eyes.   Very sad. Trump stole your spotlight.  Cause it's about HIM, not a republican win.   


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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #291 on: November 07, 2014, 09:31:27 AM »
I think he's "had his chance" many times.  what years did he pretend to run?  1980?  92?  2000?  2008 and 2012?

He does this every time. He'll claim he's gonna drop a million "exploring", he'll tell us he has a strong extreme position on whatever the hot topic issue is (amnesty?), he'll trash obama, and the sexy number and boring other candidates will result in weeks of coverage.   BOOM every time.  Makes me sick.

Dr Carson, you are officially irrelevant now, in the media's eyes.   Very sad. Trump stole your spotlight.  Cause it's about HIM, not a republican win.   



Maybe a little less irrelevant now, but once the debates roll around things can change real quick.




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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #292 on: November 07, 2014, 09:34:13 AM »
Maybe a little less irrelevant now, but once the debates roll around things can change real quick.

Maybe.  Remember last time - didn't trump try to MODERATE his own debate or something?   If he was actually IN the debate, his combover and one-liners would get way more time and attention than Dr Carson, with his statesmanlike manner.

lol what a mess.  i hope trump stays out of it, lets actual candidates get base voters attention.   

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« Reply #293 on: November 07, 2014, 09:43:53 AM »
Maybe a little less irrelevant now, but once the debates roll around things can change real quick.





Trump isn't going to make anyone irrelevant.  That's silly.

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« Reply #294 on: November 07, 2014, 09:48:54 AM »
Trump isn't going to make anyone irrelevant.  That's silly.

So much of the pre-hype never really means anything regardless.

As much as some people want consider Hillary a done deal as the next President, things can change so quickly on that stage.

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« Reply #295 on: November 07, 2014, 09:50:05 AM »
Trump isn't going to make anyone irrelevant.  That's silly.

If trump gets a single MINUTE of airtime about 2016 possible candidacy (which he has gotten - today), then it means other GOP candidates aren't getting airtime.

We're talking about REAL candidates.  Trump did not help the GOP in 2012. He made them look foolish. he soaked up their airtime, tried to stage his own debate.  And this year, just 2 weeks ago, he shit all over ROMNEY already.  Yes, he did.

The most HILARIOUS thing of all - it's Trump telling Romney "DONT YOU EVEN THINK OF RUNNING AGAIN" - I mean, trump is pulling our leg once again, and he's shitting on the 2012 candidate for multiple runs?   LOL  I don't understand how anyone from tthe repub party can defend trump at this point.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/21/Exclusive-Donald-Trump-To-Mitt-Romney-You-Blew-It-In-2012-Don-t-Even-Think-About-Running-Again

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« Reply #296 on: November 07, 2014, 09:53:24 AM »
If trump gets a single MINUTE of airtime about 2016 possible candidacy (which he has gotten - today), then it means other GOP candidates aren't getting airtime.

We're talking about REAL candidates.  Trump did not help the GOP in 2012. He made them look foolish. he soaked up their airtime, tried to stage his own debate.  And this year, just 2 weeks ago, he shit all over ROMNEY already.  Yes, he did.

The most HILARIOUS thing of all - it's Trump telling Romney "DONT YOU EVEN THINK OF RUNNING AGAIN" - I mean, trump is pulling our leg once again, and he's shitting on the 2012 candidate for multiple runs?   LOL  I don't understand how anyone from tthe repub party can defend trump at this point.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/21/Exclusive-Donald-Trump-To-Mitt-Romney-You-Blew-It-In-2012-Don-t-Even-Think-About-Running-Again

Nobody cares. 

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« Reply #297 on: November 07, 2014, 10:02:37 AM »
Nobody cares. 

I bet Dr Ben Carson is punching holes in the coffee table, disgusted that his big announcement lasted all of 12 hours until the NBC-employed lifetime liberal Trump decided to commandeer the GOP headlines. 

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« Reply #298 on: November 07, 2014, 10:09:49 AM »
I bet Dr Ben Carson is punching holes in the coffee table, disgusted that his big announcement lasted all of 12 hours until the NBC-employed lifetime liberal Trump decided to commandeer the GOP headlines. 


Yes, the mild-mannered, even tempered brain surgeon is punching holes in the coffee table.   ::)

Nobody cares. 

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Scott Walker Hints at Presidential Run: Governors Make Better Presidents
Sunday, 09 Nov 2014
By Greg Richter

Fresh off a re-election victory, Republican Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker hinted Sunday that he might be ready to seek the nation's highest office in two years.

"I said my plan was for four years. I've got a plan to keep going for the next four years, but, certainly, I care deeply not only for my state, but my country, and we'll see what the future holds," Walker told "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd.

Todd asked whether Walker would defer if his friend, Wisconsin Sen. Paul Ryan, sought the nomination again as he did in 2012.

Walker said that if former Secretary of State and Senator Hillary Clinton seeks the Democratic nomination as expected, the Republican Party should paint her as a Washington insider and part of what's wrong with D.C. politics. That would call for a governor, such as himself, to counter her, he said.

"Paul Ryan may be the only exception to that rule, but, overall, I think governors make much better presidents than members of Congress," Walker said.

Walker has become accustomed to seeking office every two years, thanks to a recall election in 2012 after his initial victory in 2010. The recall was spurred by his budget bill, which required state workers to contribute more to their pensions and health care.

On Sunday, he credited his win to independents, whom he attracted in double digits. Wisconsin is a traditionally blue state, and Walker noted, "We can't win without independents."

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