F-You Congrgess, F-You Dems, F-You GOP, F-You Obama

[James]

Hilliary's answer to this mess will be Hillary Care (Universal healthcare) and to anyone who wants to point to another Country that has a good Universal Healthcare as an example of what we will have needs to first make note that these other Countries that you point to as a success have not been invaded by 40 million illegals from a 3rd world Country like we have been, (Who will be waiting for it) and that this alone will make Hillary Care (Universal Healthcare) a disaster even worse than Obamacare, as WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY AND OR THE DOCTORS TO HANDLE THIS!

This is why the Liberals want Amnesty, as they need to replace the many voters who after getting their sticker shock from their rising Health insurance cost and taxes to pay for the expansion of Medicaid (which will be huge) will not be voting for Liberals/Socialist next time, and sadly some of the Republicans are going along with for it in fear of being voted out by the rising Latino voting group.

[JOHN MATRIX]

The tens of millions of third world invaders pretty much doom our nation unless something is done about it...but the globalists and libs control all US policy.

Honestly think this nation is fucked. Major changes are coming soon.

[loco]

"The problem here is the arrogance of the solution itself. Had the Obama administration focused on just those who could not get coverage because of income or pre-existing conditions, they could have expanded Medicaid in an intelligent manner while protecting existing assets, without disrupting the rest of the market.

That might still have been controversial and would not have been cost-free by any means, but it would not have fatally undermined a system that worked for 85 percent of Americans and misled many of the rest into risking their estates without any warning that government would strip their heirs of family homes.  

Targeted and modest solutions minimize unintended consequences, and allow for more speed and efficiency when they do arise. Obamacare will serve for decades as the cautionary tale when arrogance rules over modesty and common sense."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obamacare-shotgun-wedding-marry-lose-091500078.html

[James]

This is why the Liberals want Amnesty, as they need to replace the many voters who after getting their sticker shock from their rising Health Insurance Cost and rising taxes to pay for the expansion of Medicaid (which will be huge) and longer waiting periods to see their a new Doctor will not be voting for Liberals/Socialist next time, and sadly some of the Republicans are going along with Amnesty for in fear of being voted out by the rising Latino voting group.  Make no mistake about it, the pro amnesty Democrats ( 100% of them ) the Republicans (50% of them) both know that all the Illegals here are bankrupting us, ruining out schools, increasing crime, overfilling our Hospitals but they don't want to be voted out, so they pick Self over Country.

[loco]

Lucky for the USA, illegal immigration from Latin America has declined the past 10 or so years, being replace by an increased legal immigration from Asia.  Asians don't vote commie.

[Archer77]

The tens of millions of third world invaders pretty much doom our nation unless something is done about it...but the globalists and libs control all US policy.

Honestly think this nation is fucked. Major changes are coming soon.

Move to Montana or Wyoming.  It will be where the United States makes its last stand.

[OzmO]

add that to that shit happening in Cali:

Illegals get drivers licenses
County jails instructed not to report illegals to feds for deportation

[loco]

I hope Obama's remaining term goes by fast.  Otherwise, I'm afraid civil war will come to the USA like a thief in the night.  Open your eyes and look at the signs.   

[LurkerNoMore]

You are just being facetious i gather?   

Sometimes I can't control the sarcasm that comes from my keyboard.   

Now, here is something else to test out if you are willing to...  (I am assuming you went through it on your own) contact an insurance broker/agent.  Anyone it doesn't matter, there are a few independents who are now just specializing in working through the ACA system.  There is no charge for their services either.  Don't tell them you already tried it on your own and got a quote.  Just say you are confused and want to get the same policy you have before.

Let us know what price they give you there.

(But count to 10 before posting.)

[OzmO]

I hope Obama's remaining term goes by fast.  Otherwise, I'm afraid civil war will come to the USA like a thief in the night.  Open your eyes and look at the signs.   

I think we are pretty far from it.   Not enough protest.

[OzmO]

Sometimes I can't control the sarcasm that comes from my keyboard.   

Now, here is something else to test out if you are willing to...  (I am assuming you went through it on your own) contact an insurance broker/agent.  Anyone it doesn't matter, there are a few independents who are now just specializing in working through the ACA system.  There is no charge for their services either.  Don't tell them you already tried it on your own and got a quote.  Just say you are confused and want to get the same policy you have before.

Let us know what price they give you there.

(But count to 10 before posting.)

lol  i hear ya.


I did already talk with a person who recommended that i go through the exchange through my current provider.   

[Dos Equis]

The Democrats own this Bill 100%, so not sure why you are blaming the GOP for Obamacare.

If you want to be really shocked Ozmo , then just wait until next year, as that current rate you can get through the exchange (the 50% more than what you are paying now) is based on not only the mandates, but also highly on the fact that many healthy young people who don't file as many claims and don't currently have insurance were going to enroll along with the unhealthy and older folks (who file more claims) averaging down the loss ratio in claims, well guess what?? most of the young aren't signing up, except for Medicaid, so not only is the rate next year going to be almost double to make up for that, but your taxes are gong to go way up also to help pay for the expansion in medicaid.

I agree.  I'm not a fan of the GOP Congress, but they're not responsible for Obamacare.  Democrats own this one. 

[Coach is Back!]

We warned you, you voted for it and we all have to suffer for it. And yes, the GOP sucks almost as bad as the libs at the moment.

[JOHN MATRIX]

Lucky for the USA, illegal immigration from Latin America has declined the past 10 or so years, being replace by an increased legal immigration from Asia.  Asians don't vote commie.

It is not declining at all. The difference now is that mexico's upper class is now moving wholesale into the border states to escape the cartel violence, and they are bringing their culture with them. There are parts of my city now that used to be mostly white/jew that you can't go literally anywhere without being surrounded by foreigners speaking spanish. I'm not even exaggerrating at all. They are literally taking over the southwest

[dario73]

I blame the GOP for failing to stop this, for getting out maneuvered politically over an over again.  They could have done a much better job to stop this.

Not much they could do when Democrats had control of the Senate and the House. The Dems acted before Brown was even sworn in.

But, I will agree that this republican party is CRAP. I know I criticize dumocrats, but this GOP is full of idiots and sellouts.Right now, instead of those morons coming up with an alternative and HAMMERING DAY IN AND DAY OUT CRAPCARE, they are setting up the AGENDA FOR THE YEAR. Boehner and Cantor are focusing on REFORMING IMMIGRATION!! Immigration CAN WAIT. They need to be FOCUSED ONLY IN destroying ACA.

A lot of people make fun of Mark Levin. But he said it months ago. He said that many on the GOP were not interested in repealing crapcare. That they were fine with it and it showed when they attacked Ted Cruz. Levin said that the GOP likes to say that they need to have control of the House, Senate and Presidency in order to repeal it but they are not devoted to it. It really is true what he said. Most of them will be happy to leave ACA alone and please their corporate supporters by surrendering amnesty.

Look at this garbage!!

Boehner, Cantor: Immigration Reform a Priority for 2014


House Speaker John Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor want to overhaul the immigration system in 2014, discussing a rewrite among other priority topics with fellow Republican lawmakers in a closed meeting Wednesday.

Arizona Republican Rep. Matt Salmon told The Wall Street Journal after the meeting that Boehner informed the lawmakers that "'this is an issue we have to deal with, and I continue to believe that.'"


Conservative immigration critics, however, said addressing the issue this year would be a mistake when lawmakers should instead be concentrating on defeating Obamacare.

"It would be a colossal mistake for us to take up anything that would end up just changing the subject and getting it off Obamacare and onto something that splits the Republican Party," Republican Steve King of Iowa told The Journal.



Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/john-boehner-eric-cantor-republicans-law/2014/01/08/id/545986#ixzz2pvzJraCG
Urgent: Should Obamacare Be Repealed? Vote Here Now!

[OzmO]

What would be interesting to know is what percentage of people had their health care increase.

[OzmO]

Not much they could do when Democrats had control of the Senate and the House. The Dems acted before Brown was even sworn in.

But, I will agree that this republican party is CRAP. I know I criticize dumocrats, but this GOP is full of idiots and sellouts.Right now, instead of those morons coming up with an alternative and HAMMERING DAY IN AND DAY OUT CRAPCARE, they are setting up the AGENDA FOR THE YEAR. Boehner and Cantor are focusing on REFORMING IMMIGRATION!! Immigration CAN WAIT. They need to be FOCUSED ONLY IN destroying ACA.

A lot of people make fun of Mark Levin. But he said it months ago. He said that many on the GOP were not interested in repealing crapcare. That they were fine with it and it showed when they attacked Ted Cruz. Levin said that the GOP likes to say that they need to have control of the House, Senate and Presidency in order to repeal it but they are not devoted to it. It really is true what he said. Most of them will be happy to leave ACA alone and please their corporate supporters by surrendering amnesty.

Look at this garbage!!

Boehner, Cantor: Immigration Reform a Priority for 2014


House Speaker John Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor want to overhaul the immigration system in 2014, discussing a rewrite among other priority topics with fellow Republican lawmakers in a closed meeting Wednesday.

Arizona Republican Rep. Matt Salmon told The Wall Street Journal after the meeting that Boehner informed the lawmakers that "'this is an issue we have to deal with, and I continue to believe that.'"


Conservative immigration critics, however, said addressing the issue this year would be a mistake when lawmakers should instead be concentrating on defeating Obamacare.

"It would be a colossal mistake for us to take up anything that would end up just changing the subject and getting it off Obamacare and onto something that splits the Republican Party," Republican Steve King of Iowa told The Journal.



Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/john-boehner-eric-cantor-republicans-law/2014/01/08/id/545986#ixzz2pvzJraCG
Urgent: Should Obamacare Be Repealed? Vote Here Now!

 

BOHICA

[Soul Crusher]

What would be interesting to know is what percentage of people had their health care increase.

If you had insurance - 100%

[OzmO]

If you had insurance - 100%

there are people who are claiming there insurance hasn't gone up

1 on this board....  although suspect
2 i know in real life


Haven't talked to too many people about it yet

[headhuntersix]

You gotta figure that most people who have it, have group plans. That will be fun in a few months when that disaster hits.

[bears]

there are people who are claiming there insurance hasn't gone up

1 on this board....  although suspect
2 i know in real life


Haven't talked to too many people about it yet

the cost TO THEM hasn't gone up.  some people work for companies that pay for their health insurance. question is is it costing the company more to insure them?  just because its not coming out of their pocket doesn't mean the cost to insure them hasn't gone up.  

[Soul Crusher]

there are people who are claiming there insurance hasn't gone up

1 on this board....  although suspect
2 i know in real life


Haven't talked to too many people about it yet

They are lying

[James]

Its mainly the individual/family who purchases their own health insurance that is being hit with cancellations and or huge increases in cost because Obama postponed the Employer mandate for another year (helping out the Unions again) So if you get your insurance via your job then your sticker shock, and or cut in hours to part time comes Jan 2015.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/07/02/white-house-delays-employer-mandate-requirement-until-2015/

http://www.cigna.com/assets/docs/about-cigna/informed-on-reform/employer-mandate-fact-sheet.pdf

[headhuntersix]

You gotta figure that companies will begin to plan for all this and cuts, rate adjustments and whatever else will be felt by mid year.

[Coach is Back!]

I blame the GOP for failing to stop this, for getting out maneuvered politically over an over again.  They could have done a much better job to stop this.

Yeah, saw this coming. Blame the GOP instead of the minions who voted for this. Did you vote for Obama, ozmo?