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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2014, 09:24:37 PM »

I am talking about real blood reports here.


Its something you guys have not tried.

Any herbal healer will use this stuff.

no you aren't. i'll bet dollars to doughnuts you've never seen anybody elses bloodwork, and I have serious doubts about you ever even getting your own bloodwork donw. you're just repeating 'shit you read on the internet' and passing it off as first-hand knowledge/experience.
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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2014, 10:51:12 PM »

no you aren't. i'll bet dollars to doughnuts you've never seen anybody elses bloodwork, and I have serious doubts about you ever even getting your own bloodwork donw. you're just repeating 'shit you read on the internet' and passing it off as first-hand knowledge/experience.

Milk thistle being good for liver health is not just some internet rumor. I am not saying it works or it doesn't, but according to the label it is sold at my local High School pharmacy as a aide to liver health.
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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2014, 11:36:25 PM »

no you aren't. i'll bet dollars to doughnuts you've never seen anybody elses bloodwork, and I have serious doubts about you ever even getting your own bloodwork donw. you're just repeating 'shit you read on the internet' and passing it off as first-hand knowledge/experience.


Beginning :

Before cycle after off for 6-7 months:
Lipid profile:
Total cholesterol: 196
Triglycerides: 131
LDL : 115
HDL: 54
Total HDL Ratio: 3.6:1


Serum billrubin this actually shows jaundice or not. 0.7


SGOT: 31
SGPT: 38


Now after the following 3 month cycle 573mg/week test E + random shots of deca about 200mg/wk

Took the bloods after about 14 days of last shot.

Lipids
TOTAL cholesterol 161
Triglycerids 143
LDL 85
HDL 48
Total /HDL Ratio 3.3:1


Serum billrubin: 0.7


SGOT: 19
SGPT: 23





All this while: no liquor

Milk thistle 3 tabs/day
Alpha lipoic acid 500mg/day
Chromium piocinate
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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2014, 11:39:17 PM »

All right, now if you look closely, it was a trt dose.

Still my bad cholesterol went down.

The jaundice indicator, serum billrubin remains UNCHANGED.

This included at least 15-20 whole eggs/day.
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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2014, 02:00:08 AM »

bilirubin doesn't indicate jaundice.

I've had sky high bilirubin without jaundice.

if you have jaundice, you will likely have high bilirubin, but high bilirubin doesn't always correlate to jaundice.
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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2014, 06:14:35 AM »

Even I get terribly dry scalp after any dht compound.
why is it so?

Dht binds to the follicle in the scalp.. It also made my hair more brittle
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« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2014, 06:47:10 AM »

Symptoms of Liver Damage


Abnormal Metabolism of Fats

    Abnormalities in the level of fats in the blood stream.  For example; elevated LDL cholesterol and reduced HDL cholesterol and elevated triglycerides.
    Arteries blocked with fat, leading to high blood pressure, heart attacks and strokes.
    Build up of fat in other body organs (fatty degeneration of organs).
    Lumps of fat in the skin (lipomas and other fatty tumors).
    Excessive weight gain, which may lead to obesity.
    Inability to lose weight even while dieting.
    Sluggish metabolism.
    Protuberant abdomen (pot belly).
    Cellulite.
    Fatty liver.
    Roll of fat around the upper abdomen – (liver roll).

Digestive Problems

    Indigestion.
    Reflux.
    Haemorrhoids.
    Gallstones and gallbladder disease.
    Intolerance to fatty foods.
    Intolerance to alcohol.
    Nausea and vomiting attacks.
    Abdominal bloating.
    Constipation.
    Irritable bowel syndrome.
    Pain over the liver – (upper right corner of abdomen & lower right rib cage).

Blood Sugar Problems

    Craving for sugar.
    Hypoglycaemia and unstable blood sugar levels.
    Mature onset diabetes (Type 2) is common in those with a fatty liver.

Nervous System

    Depression.
    Mood changes such as anger and irritability.
    Metaphysically the liver is known as the “seat of anger”.
    Poor concentration and “foggy brain”.
    Overheating of the body, especially the face and torso.
    Recurrent headaches (including migraine) associated with nausea.

Immune Dysfunction

    Allergies – sinusitis, hay fever, asthma, dermatitis, hives, etc.
    Multiple food and chemical sensitivities.
    Skin rashes and inflammations.
    Increased risk of autoimmune diseases.
    Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
    Fibromyalgia.
    Increase in recurrent viral, bacterial and parasitic infections.

External Signs

    Coated tongue.
    Bad breath.
    Skin rashes.
    Itchy skin (pruritus).
    Excessive sweating.
    Offensive body odour.
    Dark circles under the eyes.
    Yellow discoloration of the eyes.
    Red, swollen, itchy eyes (allergic eyes).
    Acne rosacea – (red pimples around the nose, cheeks and chin).
    Brownish spots and blemishes on the skin (liver spots).
    Red palms and soles which may also be itchy and inflamed.
    Flushed facial appearance or excessive facial blood vessels (capillaries/ veins).

Hormonal Imbalance

    Intolerance to hormone replacement therapy or the contraceptive pill (eg. side effects)
    Menopausal symptoms such as hot flushes may be more severe.
    Premenstrual syndrome may be more severe.

NOTE:
All of the above symptoms are common manifestations of a dysfunctional liver. However, they can also be due to other causes, of a more sinister nature, so, in all cases of persistent symptoms it is vital to see your doctor.

http://www.liverdoctor.com/liver/symptoms-of-liver-damage/
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« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2014, 10:25:11 AM »

very good post borracho.


interesting.

now for the dht.

well,lol, why does the scalp go dry on it.

we have or have not geneticaly given receptors in some hair follicles.

dht kills the ones with the receptrs off.that hair which has those receptors will inevitabely fall out eventualy no matter what.

dht will accelerate this process.

masteron, on paper and often in practice,is the worst.

for some reason, drasticaly reduced estrogen has similiar effects.try running very high dose adex and see what happens.

at least, after masteron use, you will pretty sure know if your hair is meant to stay
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« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2014, 11:23:30 AM »

The liver is an amazing organ. Only one that can grow back a damaged / cut off piece in fact. Stop drinking for a solid 6 months and go to the local "all natural" store and get a detox tea. Milk thistle is good but there are others out there that will also help detox (fennel, dandelion, licorice etc) ..pills are good but the tea seems to work better for me.

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« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2014, 05:26:10 PM »

The guy is turning yellow for christ sake! better to just be safe and go see a doctor and get some testing done. From what I read it dosn;t sound good and I think if it were me I would get it checked out just to be safe.
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« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2014, 09:03:33 PM »

The liver is an amazing organ. Only one that can grow back a damaged / cut off piece in fact. Stop drinking for a solid 6 months and go to the local "all natural" store and get a detox tea. Milk thistle is good but there are others out there that will also help detox (fennel, dandelion, licorice etc) ..pills are good but the tea seems to work better for me.



True. The liver is the most resilient organ in the body.  It can take a beat and recover, but only if you give it a break from what's causing the issue in the first place.


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« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2014, 11:23:10 PM »

Oh and search Craigslist for several UV lamps and lay under them for a week or two  Grin

My son did that when born with jaundice
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« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2014, 11:56:01 PM »

Oh and search Craigslist for several UV lamps and lay under them for a week or two  Grin

My son did that when born with jaundice

Ultraviolet lamps are also known as sunlamps. If one laid under them for a week or two, they'd be burnt to a crisp. Generally about 5 minutes is all human skin can endure without beginning to burn.

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« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2014, 03:41:53 AM »

Ultraviolet lamps are also known as sunlamps. If one laid under them for a week or two, they'd be burnt to a crisp. Generally about 5 minutes is all human skin can endure without beginning to burn.


like a tanning bed?
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« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2014, 11:38:20 AM »

like a tanning bed?

Yes, the bulbs in a tanning bed are ultraviolet. There are some which are more refined at tanning parlors, but all will eventually burn your skin if the exposure is too great. How much exposure one can endure depends on their skin type. Fairer skinned people burn more easily, much the same as they do in the sun.
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« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2014, 11:45:44 AM »

Yes, the bulbs in a tanning bed are ultraviolet. There are some which are more refined at tanning parlors, but all will eventually burn your skin if the exposure is too great. How much exposure one can endure depends on their skin type. Fairer skinned people burn more easily, much the same as they do in the sun.

Yeah but, There is a difference between backlights and tanning bulbs right? UVA vs UVB  my son was under a bed of lights and didn't burn and he had the most sensitive of skin ..newborn
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« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2014, 11:47:29 AM »

A tanned newborn is unheard of.
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« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2014, 03:32:10 PM »

A tanned newborn is unheard of.

I probably came close. My mom moved to Nantucket the summer after I was born, I crawled the beach there naked while she laid out in the sun. I looked like a toe-headed "Hebrew" baby by the end of summer. Amazingly, I have never had skin cancer.
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« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2014, 06:06:34 PM »

Shrek, bro. Let us know you are still kicking...
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« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2014, 06:14:24 PM »

Dude has not logged in since starting this thread.

Get well soon.
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« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2014, 09:11:14 AM »

1 - YOU ARE HAVING REAL ISSUES.

2 - STOP USING. TRY TRT OR PREGNYL/DUFINE THERAPY (AND DOSTINEX BECAUSE OF THE TREN).

3 - GO TO THE DOCTOR.

4 - JUST BECAUSE BLOOD VALUES ARE IN THE NORMAL RANGE DOESN'T MEAN EVERYTHING IS OK. BILIRRUBIN LEVEL WITHIN NORMAL LEVELS DOESN'T MEAN YOUR LIVER IS HEALTHY.

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« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2014, 07:23:32 PM »

I'm good fellas. PM me if you care to know what happened
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« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2014, 08:13:56 PM »

Have milk thistle(gnc)  +alpha pipoic acid +  zinc+xhomium picolinate.

This will super accelerate rhevliver detox process.

Plus ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA)

And you drink? You dumb ass. Stop drinking.
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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2014, 04:02:30 PM »

i'd see a doc man. for now probably stop drinking and maybe drop your dose a bit, even though they bypass the liver i'm fairly certain the liver is still affected due to blood pressure and also a bad hdl/ldl ration and i believe tren is among the worst for those.
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