Will Harris in critical condition

[doison]

Calm down homo and lower the dosage

I was responding to the post of esfitness which seems to imply that it's just high body weight and high blood pressure

Obviously u can't read

I don't think you understand what illiteracy is

[galeniko]

yea,, 121-130 which is high.

no thats not high, thats diabetes 2.

[Voice of Doom]

Seriously, all these guys dropping at the same time, what specifically were they all taking to do it?

Ya, kinda sounds like a bad batch from a mutual supplier is suddenly knocking all these guys off.

[Quickerblade]

gal,

do you do crossfit brother?

[Royalty]

Dont use the regular ALA

use the R-Alpha Lipoic Acid. The "R" version is the one the works.

[galeniko]

what specifically is causing this..?

i guess test in the grams + multiple other injectables, high dose orals, high doses growth, regular slin use + party drugs/rec drugs + alcohol

what can be done to avoid this, is there a 'safe' dosage that can be used

well.lol.

it could be either of these things.

you didnt list bad diet though.or lack og cardio and moving around.

brutal is, its an acute double failure, impossible to tell what happend, could be an of what youve listed.

safe dosage is literaly a honest trt.

gal,

do you do crossfit brother?

i do jogging

and the weight lifting i do is so light it could be classified as crossfit, all spotted reps with buddies, 10% rom fake plates

[macos]

Will's interview was there in movie on steroids by that short fat permabulker guy. Cannot remember the name
He maintained this condition year round.
Sounded like a person with body image disorder of the highest degree.

[DroppingPlates]

Will's interview was there in movie on steroids by that short fat permabulker guy. Cannot remember the name
He maintained this condition year round.
Sounded like a person with body image disorder of the highest degree.

All serious bodybuilders are.

[XFACTOR]

Fristly all the essential vitamins.
Then stuff like CoQ10, NAC, ginseng, alpha lipoic acid.
Add milk thistle, garlic pearls, saw palmetto, tungat ali, gingko biloba

The stuff in the first two lines regularly.
the stuff in third line during cruise or off phases as it is broken by the liver and interferes with the breakdown of externally administered hormones.

this is absurd. If you think taking some herbal over the counter crap shields you against pumping a bunch of juice you are very wrong.

[asbrus]

Yeah, the shit runs in his family. His dad and granddad also died from liver and kidney failure.

And drugs speed up the process.

[galeniko]

this is absurd. If you think taking some herbal over the counter crap shields you against pumping a bunch of juice you are very wrong.

i mean, you know, the bodys very own detox tools are called

kidney

liver

while there are potent herbs(lol opium is one,no?),its naive to think anything from tescos over the counter stuff would help

i mean i can see how someone who been drinking hard, then goes off alc and start thislte blabla and "suddenly" his parameters go down, but thatll be bc they stopped drinking.

haha, my girl(not sure if i must say ex now, but anway)says i must use those tabs for ph balance bc i eat much meat.

she doesnt realize, if they body doesnt manage ph levels itself, wed just die.lol

[doison]

And drugs speed up the process.

Nonsense poopy pants!

[bigdumbbell]

not good. best wishes for a full and complete recovery

[viking1]

Will's interview was there in movie on steroids by that short fat permabulker guy. Cannot remember the name
He maintained this condition year round.
Sounded like a person with body image disorder of the highest degree.

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[che]

And lets not forget that a lot of the gear today's guys are using are coming from powders from China...

That's a good thing  , real gear  would kill them faster.

[Mobil]

And lets not forget that a lot of the gear today's guys are using are coming from powders from China...That wasn't the case for the guys 30 years ago...

not only that but they abuse pain killers.... pain killers are more toxic then steroids to the kidneys and liver

[dyslexic]

Maybe.. just maybe... some of the younger "up-and-coming" bodybuilders should re-think their priorities and their future plans...


Hardcore Bodybuilding is a dangerous endeavor.


Argue all you want.


I won't change my mind.

[Alex23]

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Epic lack of sleeves where there should be.

Did I comment on the "baseball" "cap"? Oh brother.

The  Darwinian cultural cleanup is overdue.

[MAXX]

[The Abdominal Snoman]

That's a good thing  , real gear  would kill them faster.

Lead is a serious issue with anything coming from China...Lead poisoning is no joke...

[The Abdominal Snoman]

not only that but they abuse pain killers.... pain killers are more toxic then steroids to the kidneys and liver

Good point

[Alex23]

not only that but they abuse pain killers.... pain killers are more toxic then steroids to the kidneys and liver

THAN...

[Hypertrophy]

milk thistle has been proven to do nothing..as have most, if not all of the usual natural supplements. even vitamins are useless if u already have the right amount and ratios in your diet.

The active ingredient in milk thistle is silymarin:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21466434

"In chronic liver diseases caused by oxidative stress (alcoholic and non-alcoholic fatty liver diseases, drug- and chemical-induced hepatic toxicity), the antioxidant medicines such as silymarin can have beneficial effect. Liver cirrhosis, non-alcoholic fatty liver and steatohepatitis are risk factors for hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC). Insulin resistance and oxidative stress are the major pathogenetic mechanisms leading the hepatic cell injury in these patients. The silymarin exerts membrane-stabilizing and antioxidant activity, it promotes hepatocyte regeneration; furthermore it reduces the inflammatory reaction, and inhibits the fibrogenesis in the liver. "

[James28]

CNN and BBC doing a minute by minute update on this. Obama interviewed shortly to share his thoughts.

[The Ugly]

This poor bastard. Another one bites the dust. When will somebody step up?