Author Topic: ATTN Team Natty: Sorry but I'm going to the dark side (Read 10470 times)

Dr.J · « **Reply #25 on:** January 12, 2014, 05:17:57 AM »

Quote from: Wolfox on January 12, 2014, 02:30:00 AM

I was inspired by an old friend I recently ran into. Indian guy was skinny as shit when he graduated highschool.... now he's all yolked up. Guy is like 5'7 230lbs and works out like shit...endless hammer strength machines(all the inclines, regular, declines), then does db bench and incline and flys for chest for 1 and half hours. Somehow all that shit works for him.

Dude your friend needs to get on some real shit....off season I was 5,7...285....

Ill have to dig up a pic...

Oh im natural....ask Sev...he will tell you so...

Dr.J · « **Reply #26 on:** January 12, 2014, 05:20:06 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Junior on January 12, 2014, 05:18:01 AM

Good Dr you think its bad to juice? Only cos I'm thinking of starting for first time next week, why is my instinct saying NO or is this just unnecessary fear?

Listen to your instincts. ... . at the end of the day...its your body......and you gotta sleep at night.

Dr.J · « **Reply #27 on:** January 12, 2014, 05:24:50 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Junior on January 12, 2014, 05:18:01 AM

Good Dr you think its bad to juice? Only cos I'm thinking of starting for first time next week, why is my instinct saying NO or is this just unnecessary fear?

Its like this.....everything in moderation.

A pinch of salt is not bad for you..but a glass full can harm you.

A cigarette is not bad for you... but a carton in day can do damage!

A glass of wine won't hurt ya.....but drink a gallons worth and see what your liver enzymes look like!!

See all the above shit is bad for you but we still consume it...and in moderation. ....it more than. Likely will not harm us....

Juice is NO different my friend.

Dr.J · « **Reply #28 on:** January 12, 2014, 05:27:14 AM »

USE and ABUSE are two VERY different words!

Dr.J · « **Reply #29 on:** January 12, 2014, 05:28:35 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Junior on January 12, 2014, 05:18:01 AM

Good Dr you think its bad to juice? Only cos I'm thinking of starting for first time next week, why is my instinct saying NO or is this just unnecessary fear?

Hope this helps

BikiniSlut · « **Reply #30 on:** January 12, 2014, 05:41:57 AM »

How old are you Uncle Junior?

_aj_ · « **Reply #31 on:** January 12, 2014, 05:42:28 AM »

Unless there is another Uncle Junior here, you have stated that you have been on GH for a couple of months, so I am not sure where the "agony" of this decision is coming from

Dr.J · « **Reply #32 on:** January 12, 2014, 05:46:00 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Junior on January 12, 2014, 05:39:44 AM

Kinda doc, I've really struggling with this decision.

I mean if I did it it would be like 100 Test Prop EOD for like 2-3 months, maybe for like 2 times year over the summer.

I just wanna be ripped without feeling like shit all the time from dieting and not having a libido cos every time I diet my libido goes to shit, my hair starts falling out and I feel like death, so yeah I might look good but I feel like shit.

When I'm like say 15% BF I feel great, strong, athletic in good mood but obviously don't look great, just like an average gym rat maybe etc.

I feel like screaming ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH......rea lly don't know what to do.

Every time i am in the gym and I am training or seeing other people train I am like fuck it, I am jumping on gear ASAP.

Then when I am at home thinking in reflective mood I am like don't be so fucking stupid.

I almost just want someone else to make the decision for me.

Im assuming your a grown man....and if you are ...then you gotta make your own decisions and you have to look yourself in the mirror. Been at this for 23 years now....and I was ripped natty at 160...and the diet did not make me feel like it does you...my wanna give your cardio and diet another look. Now on the others hand I was also 215 ripped and feeling "LIKE A BOSS"... It's all up to you.

Dr.J · « **Reply #33 on:** January 12, 2014, 05:47:48 AM »

Quote from: _aj_ on January 12, 2014, 05:42:28 AM

Unless there is another Uncle Junior here, you have stated that you have been on GH for a couple of months, so I am not sure where the "agony" of this decision is coming from

I think god permits the use of hgh and still considers you natty......as long as its below 3ius ED... oh a d you have to take the 7 day off..yes that is what I have heard

Dr.J · « **Reply #34 on:** January 12, 2014, 05:49:10 AM »

Quote from: Dr.J on January 12, 2014, 05:47:48 AM

I think god permits the use of hgh and still considers you natty......as long as its below 3ius ED... oh a d you have to take the 7 day off..yes that is what I have heard

Dr.J · « **Reply #35 on:** January 12, 2014, 05:53:56 AM »

Quote from: BikiniSlut on January 12, 2014, 05:41:57 AM

How old are you Uncle Junior?

"Old enough to party. "

BikiniSlut · « **Reply #36 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:00:18 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Junior on January 12, 2014, 05:57:06 AM

Just turned 35 babe.

My natural testosterone levels were 19.4 nmol/l in the blood works I had done few weeks ago. Is that bad? xx

I think you're overtraining and under eating.

I have no idea about those test levels. What did the doctor say?

_aj_ · « **Reply #37 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:00:47 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Junior on January 12, 2014, 05:57:06 AM

Just turned 35 babe.

My natural testosterone levels were 19.4 nmol/l in the blood works I had done few weeks ago. Is that bad? xx

wes · « **Reply #38 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:04:19 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Junior on January 12, 2014, 05:39:44 AM

I almost just want someone else to make the decision for me.

Here`s a fucking decision,jump off the nearest tall building.

HTH

Dr.J · « **Reply #39 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:05:45 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Junior on January 12, 2014, 06:00:36 AM

I was taking between 4-7 IU's a day of script Genotropin....it really really didn't do anything for me whatsoever doc.

I know GETBIGGER's are gonna talk...but try 10 to 15 a day...holy snikies!!

You will see a difference. ....and quick too!!

_aj_ · « **Reply #40 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:08:08 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Junior on January 12, 2014, 06:03:57 AM

My doctor said my testosterone levels were perfect for my age and that I should forget all this shit and that I look great and forget about all this bullshit blah blah blah and just be happy but that he would monitor me and write me scripts for pharma grade gear so I don't fuck myself up taking underground shit.

I am seeing him tomorrow, and have no fucking idea what to do.

I mean I will get him to write me the script then have a long think and make the final decision.

I will probably end up doing it cos of assholes like dirtiest natural and then we will go to war and see who's best.

But then other part of me thinks this is so fucking stupid.

Its times like this I wish I had a good woman in my life, not talking about skanky whores etc.

Wait...wait...wait...

You have a doc willing to write scrips for your gear and monitor you and this is even a question? I guess my POV is skewed from already having kids, but grab that shit with two hands!

Dr.J · « **Reply #41 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:08:16 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Junior on January 12, 2014, 06:03:57 AM

My doctor said my testosterone levels were perfect for my age and that I should forget all this shit and that I look great and forget about all this bullshit blah blah blah and just be happy but that he would monitor me and write me scripts for pharma grade gear so I don't fuck myself up taking underground shit.

I am seeing him tomorrow, and have no fucking idea what to do.

I mean I will get him to write me the script then have a long think and make the final decision.

I will probably end up doing it cos of assholes like dirtiest natural and then we will go to war and see who's best.

But then other part of me thinks this is so fucking stupid.

Its times like this I wish I had a good woman in my life, not talking about skanky whores etc.

Maybe bikini is up for the challenge. ...you seem like a cool dude...what say bikini? !!

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #42 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:08:27 AM »

I can't believe people still respond to hims seriously

_aj_ · « **Reply #43 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:09:31 AM »

Quote from: Cleanest Natural on January 12, 2014, 06:08:27 AM

I can't believe people still respond to hims seriously

I'm bored this morning...

Dr.J · « **Reply #44 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:09:53 AM »

Quote from: _aj_ on January 12, 2014, 06:08:08 AM

Wait...wait...wait...

You have a doc willing to write scrips for your gear and monitor you and this is even a question? I guess my POV is skewed from already having kids, but grab that shit with two hands!

Yeah. ...I.....I might have to agree with aj a bit...

Dr.J · « **Reply #45 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:11:30 AM »

Quote from: Cleanest Natural on January 12, 2014, 06:08:27 AM

I can't believe people still respond to hims seriously

Listen.....internet. ...IS serious business Sev.... period!

Kim Jong Bob · « **Reply #46 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:11:42 AM »

Quote from: bigmc on January 12, 2014, 03:13:05 AM

this thread is a great example of what to do when everyone ignores you

this

Dr.J · « **Reply #47 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:13:34 AM »

Quote from: Cleanest Natural on January 12, 2014, 06:08:27 AM

I can't believe people still respond to hims seriously

Hey sev...you have you got the 23rd all planned out bro??

When you do boss..plz pm the details...

wes · « **Reply #48 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:16:57 AM »

I don`t know about that test,but you`re failing at getbig at warp speed.

_aj_ · « **Reply #49 on:** January 12, 2014, 06:17:18 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Junior on January 12, 2014, 06:13:45 AM

Aj thanks for this, I don't understand how to interpret this chart though, so is my test ok or not bro?

It's mean and median by age group. At 19.4, you are a little under the average, but your doc is right. It's not his job to make you "optimal", that's your decision to make.