Person severs spine in crossfit competition in California

[nosbp2]

even Ronnie Colemane was covered by the police

hello anabolichalo 

[oldtimer1]

how do you explain him losing such a light weight after catching it and being almost standing up again

something in the back snapped and pain resulted in what folowed

Do you consider 231 lbs snatch a light weight? Most guys here who could bench 405 lbs here couldn't snatch 225 if they trained for 6 months. If it was 105 kilos and it slammed into his back bone with the metal bar that could cause a lot of damage. It would be like swinging a 2lbs hammer at someone's spine.

[Krankenstein]

Looked like it was his midthoracics....certainl y enough to fracture vertebrae and send fragments into the spinal canal. Freak accident for sure.

T11....he has had 3 surgeries so far from what I understand.

[arce1988]

 

[Big Chiro Flex]

T11....he has had 3 surgeries so far from what I understand.

Interesting....any update on his outcome?

[Big Chiro Flex]

how do you explain him losing such a light weight after catching it and being almost standing up again

something in the back snapped and pain resulted in what folowed

Lol doesn't work like that bro, unless he had some serious necrotic bone disease, which he did not. The bar landed on his back.

[BB]

Interesting....any update on his outcome?

Not much -

http://strengthmilitia.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/kevin-ogar-oc-throwdown-injury-updates-fundraisers/

Down toward the bottom gives some information.

http://www.facebook.com/ogarstrong is the official page now.

[Big Chiro Flex]

BUT WHY DID HE DROP IT

Because he was fatigued from a vigorous crossfit workout. Missing the lift had nothing to do with his injury, until he dropped the bar on his T11.

[oldtimer1]

BUT WHY DID HE DROP IT

You're a gimmick right? You call 231lbs. a light weight for snatching and as proof you show a video of an elite world class Olympic weight lifter. Please show a video of you snatching a light 231lbs. It should be real easy, right? He dropped the weight because he missed the lift.

[EwaBeachBoy]

http://www.outsideonline.com/news-from-the-field/CrossFit-Coach-Severs-Spine.html

A CrossFit coach might never walk again after he severed his spine during a competition in California on Sunday.

Kevin Ogar was competing at a CrossFit event when he attempted a snatch—a lift in which a barbell is raised from the floor directly to an overhead position in a single motion—but dropped the weight on his back. According to his friends, Ogar separated his T11 and T12 vertebrae, severed his spinal cord, and is currently paralyzed from the waist down.

Because Ogar is uninsured, the CrossFit community has rallied together to help pay for the medical bills. In fewer than 48 hours, people from around the world donated more than $100,000, CrossFit Unbroken owner Matt Hathcock told CBS.  

“It was just kind of a freak accident,” says one CrossFitter who competed with Ogar last weekend.  

CrossFit’s high-intensity workouts have exploded in popularity, and there are now about 10,000 CrossFit gyms worldwide. Though CrossFit injury numbers vary, studies have pegged the CrossFit injury rate from as low as 16 percent to as high as 74 percent.

[The True Adonis]

Haven`t seen this yet.

[EwaBeachBoy]

http://www.outsideonline.com/news-from-the-field/CrossFit-Coach-Severs-Spine.html

A CrossFit coach might never walk again after he severed his spine during a competition in California on Sunday.

Kevin Ogar was competing at a CrossFit event when he attempted a snatch—a lift in which a barbell is raised from the floor directly to an overhead position in a single motion—but dropped the weight on his back. According to his friends, Ogar separated his T11 and T12 vertebrae, severed his spinal cord, and is currently paralyzed from the waist down.

Because Ogar is uninsured, the CrossFit community has rallied together to help pay for the medical bills. In fewer than 48 hours, people from around the world donated more than $100,000, CrossFit Unbroken owner Matt Hathcock told CBS. 

“It was just kind of a freak accident,” says one CrossFitter who competed with Ogar last weekend. 

CrossFit’s high-intensity workouts have exploded in popularity, and there are now about 10,000 CrossFit gyms worldwide. Though CrossFit injury numbers vary, studies have pegged the CrossFit injury rate from as low as 16 percent to as high as 74 percent.

[dogbowl]

I agree, I don't think it was from the lift.

Then i misunderstood you earlier.  Or you change your mind.

I hope they release the full video of this.  I want to see the aftermath, and the events leading up to this.    Apparently the ambulance took 15 minutes to arrive?

[Krankenstein]

http://www.outsideonline.com/news-from-the-field/CrossFit-Coach-Severs-Spine.html

A CrossFit coach might never walk again after he severed his spine during a competition in California on Sunday.

Kevin Ogar was competing at a CrossFit event when he attempted a snatch—a lift in which a barbell is raised from the floor directly to an overhead position in a single motion—but dropped the weight on his back. According to his friends, Ogar separated his T11 and T12 vertebrae, severed his spinal cord, and is currently paralyzed from the waist down.

Because Ogar is uninsured, the CrossFit community has rallied together to help pay for the medical bills. In fewer than 48 hours, people from around the world donated more than $100,000, CrossFit Unbroken owner Matt Hathcock told CBS. 

“It was just kind of a freak accident,” says one CrossFitter who competed with Ogar last weekend. 

CrossFit’s high-intensity workouts have exploded in popularity, and there are now about 10,000 CrossFit gyms worldwide. Though CrossFit injury numbers vary, studies have pegged the CrossFit injury rate from as low as 16 percent to as high as 74 percent.

All an internet hoax.....

[Wolfox]

THE WAY I SEE IT: LISTEN CAREFULLY LISTEN


something is already srsly wrong before the bar is even dropping


mid recovery he starts making weird moves and going back down, in severe pain no doubt


it is only then the bar drops and maybe the spine is already snapped at this time

Something went wrong before he dropped it. His body gave out. Hard to tell tho with the choppy vid.

[Disgusted]

can one of our brilliant minds here do the math on the amount of force generated by that weight (105 kg?) moving at freefall speed (something like 9/8 ms2?) for a distance of 5 to 8 inches, whatever it was there?

I haven't had physics class since 1993, but I"m guessing someone could figure out what kind of force was absorbed by his neck.

To find the collision speed if the weight falls 3 ft:

Square root (2 times 32.2 times 3) = 13.9 feet per second

13.9 times 3600 divided by 5280 = 9.48 mph=4.24 meters per sec.

Force in newtons = 105kg times collision speed (meters per second) divided by the time between the bars first contact with him and the spinal cord severing.

Then multiply by .225 to convert to pounds.

But really,if you look up the minimum force required to break a spine, that would be the answer.  You would need to do a stress/fracture test on a spine to see how much force it takes to break it, and that is likely to be close to the answer. Being hit with a weight greater than this minimum probably won't make a difference in the force it took to sever the spinal cord. The same weight falling through 3 feet (approx.) will exert different forces on different things.  For example it would exert a big force if it hits something hard, but a small force if it hits something soft.  The point is that there is no set force that results from that particular weight falling that particular distance.  It depends on the object it hits and how that object responds to the blow as much as it does to the initial data.  Keep in mind that in this case there are other factors such as the vertebrae coming into contact with the bar first which would change the amount of force it takes to sever the spinal cord.

[galeniko]

ask bigsetanie21112 the homo breaks spines with his bare palms if theyre not busy stroking of clients

[Big Chiro Flex]

To find the collision speed if the weight falls 3 ft:

Square root (2 times 32.2 times 3) = 13.9 feet per second

13.9 times 3600 divided by 5280 = 9.48 mph=4.24 meters per sec.

Force in newtons = 105kg times collision speed (meters per second) divided by the time between the bars first contact with him and the spinal cord severing.

Then multiply by .225 to convert to pounds.

But really,if you look up the minimum force required to break a spine, that would be the answer.  You would need to do a stress/fracture test on a spine to see how much force it takes to break it, and that is likely to be close to the answer. Being hit with a weight greater than this minimum probably won't make a difference in the force it took to sever the spinal cord. The same weight falling through 3 feet (approx.) will exert different forces on different things.  For example it would exert a big force if it hits something hard, but a small force if it hits something soft.  The point is that there is no set force that results from that particular weight falling that particular distance.  It depends on the object it hits and how that object responds to the blow as much as it does to the initial data.  Keep in mind that in this case there are other factors such as the vertebrae coming into contact with the bar first which would change the amount of force it takes to sever the spinal cord.

Good post but let me add: The cord did not have to be completely dissected. All that was needed for paralysis is a small fragment of bone to enter the canal and impinge or injure the cord in some way. Very delicate anatomy we are dealing with here.

[mr.turbo]

To me it looks like the bar landed across his shoulders and upper back while he was in a sitting position with a bent back.  Like this


Then it knocked those plates behind him.  But the damage was done before that.

how you do the sketch?

[chaos]

Any chance he had preexisting issues with his back and was simply encouraged to continue through the pain until this happened? We all know how "hardcore" crossfitters are.

[Krankenstein]

Good post but let me add: The cord did not have to be completely dissected. All that was needed for paralysis is a small fragment of bone to enter the canal and impinge or injure the cord in some way. Very delicate anatomy we are dealing with here.

ETIOLOGY

• Thoracic spine is rigid owing to the support of the rib cage and the costovertebral articulations:
• The spinal canal is narrowest in the thoracic spine.
• Traumatic thoracic spine fractures require enormous forces. Motor-vehicle and motorcycle collisions, pedestrians struck, and falls (particularly from height >10 ft) account for most fractures: A small percentage are caused by penetrating injuries (see “Spinal Cord Syndromes”).
• 50% of all spinal fractures and 40% of all spinal cord injuries occur at the thoracolumbar junction (T11-L2).

The thing about the thoraco-lumbar junction is that injury to this area is associated with what is known as polytrauma.  So, Could there have been a compression fracture prior to the bar striking him?  Unlikely, but possible.  The direct blunt force trauma to the column would be the most likely cause.  Most likely the posterior and medial columns of T11 (based on R Lous' column theory) would have been damaged if there was a fracture.  I haven't heard the specifics of what actually got damaged (other than severed spinal cord).  Not sure I want to know.

Chaos...all joking aside, its unlikely that there were any pre-existing problems with his back at that specific level.  Lumbar region quite possibly.  But would that be something that would have caused it.  I am still not clear if this was a straight out compression injury (unlikely), the bar striking the spine on the way down, or the bar striking the back on the rebound.

[dogbowl]

how you do the sketch?

Quickly and with no skill! 

I did a google search for 'online paint' and found www.onemotion.com/flash/sketch-paint/‎

Just trying to visually make sense of what might have happened.

[mr.turbo]

the reports state separated t11/t12

mr. dogbowl I suspect is right

here's another diagram of what may have happened with a similar impact (inverted)




the bar didn't hit the lower back

it looks like it lands on the stack of plates and rolls back

[dogbowl]

• 50% of all spinal fractures and 40% of all spinal cord injuries occur at the thoracolumbar junction (T11-L2).

This seems to be all of the information available:
"According to his friends, Ogar separated his T11 and T12 vertebrae, severed his spinal cord, and is currently paralyzed from the waist down."

And a picture for those of us who aren't good with long medical words

[mr.turbo]

Quickly and with no skill! 

I did a google search for 'online paint' and found www.onemotion.com/flash/sketch-paint/‎

Just trying to visually make sense of what might have happened.

oh nice work