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« on: January 16, 2014, 12:35:04 AM »

WHY NOT  Wink


Oral steroids Drug Active half-life
Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
Dianabol (methandrostenolone, methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltestosterone 4 days
Winstrol (stanozolol)
(tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours

Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 14 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day

Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 2 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

Ancillaries Drug Active half-life
Arimidex 3 days
Clenbuterol 1.5 days
Clomid 5 days
Cytadren 6 hours
Ephedrine 6 hours
T3 10 hours
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2014, 12:53:42 AM »

So nandrolone decanoate has a half life of 14 days but decanoate has a half life of 15 days
and equipoise also has a half life of 14 days but undeclynate lasts 13 days???
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2014, 01:11:00 AM »

So nandrolone decanoate has a half life of 14 days but decanoate has a half life of 15 days
and equipoise also has a half life of 14 days but undeclynate lasts 13 days???
ya I noticed some discrepancies too, however the half-life studies are not always conclusive and there is still still some controversial. One explanation can be that a specific compound can marginally shift the length of the half life when attached to an ester in comparison to a different compund attached to the same ester? not sure about that one  Huh

Nevertheless all the data shows the same ball park numbers for almost everyone of these so I tend to believe this would be the average half life expectancy, Personally I believe every individual will have marginal differences as well, nothing too different but within a 10-15 percent range.

One thing I do know though is these esters are precisely in order, that we know from the number of atoms, for example Acetate has 2, Prop has 3, Hex as the name suggest has 6, enenthate has 8 I believe, and Deca has 10 also as the name suggest.

The more Atoms, the longer the half life.
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2014, 01:51:01 AM »

ya I noticed some discrepancies too, however the half-life studies are not always conclusive and there is still still some controversial. One explanation can be that a specific compound can marginally shift the length of the half life when attached to an ester in comparison to a different compund attached to the same ester? not sure about that one  Huh

Nevertheless all the data shows the same ball park numbers for almost everyone of these so I tend to believe this would be the average half life expectancy, Personally I believe every individual will have marginal differences as well, nothing too different but within a 10-15 percent range.

One thing I do know though is these esters are precisely in order, that we know from the number of atoms, for example Acetate has 2, Prop has 3, Hex as the name suggest has 6, enenthate has 8 I believe, and Deca has 10 also as the name suggest.

The more Atoms, the longer the half life.

Interesting
I don't think it makes a difference really, I was simply being a homo
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2014, 02:22:57 AM »

Interesting
I don't think it makes a difference really, I was simply being a homo
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2014, 03:18:15 AM »

Test Prop not 4-5 days, more like 48 hours tops
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2014, 04:48:59 AM »

winstro doesnt have a half live.

not an acurate one.the manufacturer claims so.

it released differently than esters.it has no ester.

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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2014, 05:42:42 AM »

I think it is crazy how long Nandrolone Decanoate stays in your fatty tissue! Nandrolone decanoate can sit in your fatty tissue for up to 8-9 months after your last injections.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2014, 10:26:52 AM »

Steroid 101 is always welcome
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2014, 11:48:46 AM »

I think it is crazy how long Nandrolone Decanoate stays in your fatty tissue! Nandrolone decanoate can sit in your fatty tissue for up to 8-9 months after your last injections.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
same with equipoise
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2014, 07:05:55 PM »

I thought test-e was 10.5 days and test-c was 8?

Never bothered to look I just assumed, but sure shit test C does have a longer ester.
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2014, 10:45:50 PM »

I thought test-e was 10.5 days and test-c was 8?

Never bothered to look I just assumed, but sure shit test C does have a longer ester.

This is the info I have:
Formate   1.5
Acetate   3
Phenylpropionate   4.5
Propionate   4.5
Benzoate   6
Valerate   7.5
Isohexanoate   9
Isocaproate   9
Hexanoate   9
Caproate   9
Heptylate   10
Heptanoate   10.5
Enanthate   10.5
Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate   12
Heksiloksifenilpropionat   12
Octanoate   12
Cypionate   12
Undecylenate   13
Nonanoate   13.5
Decanoate   15
Undecanoate   16.5
Laurate   17
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2014, 08:04:53 AM »

hm dont think the e time is correct.10day falls flat on face imo.


but yeah cyp last longer than e.


interesting claim for prop,4.5days, i find theres something to that.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2014, 03:01:07 PM »

I know this is splitting hairs.  But hell, if you're injecting something into your body might as well get the most of  it.

With test e or c for example.  Is it more or less beneficial to inject at the half life period than simply every week?

Say-inject every 10 days w/ test e instead of just every 7 days.

 
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2014, 07:29:00 PM »

I thought test-e was 10.5 days and test-c was 8?

Never bothered to look I just assumed, but sure shit test C does have a longer ester.
no test c is definitely longer, I get noticeably more water retention with cyp as well, I hate cyp, will never take it again.
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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2014, 07:32:19 PM »

I know this is splitting hairs.  But hell, if you're injecting something into your body might as well get the most of  it.

With test e or c for example.  Is it more or less beneficial to inject at the half life period than simply every week?

Say-inject every 10 days w/ test e instead of just every 7 days.

 
it would be same as one shot over lapse the other and so on and so fourth. The test levels keep going up in the same manner.
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2014, 07:52:32 PM »

winstro doesnt have a half live.

not an acurate one.the manufacturer claims so.

it released differently than esters.it has no ester.


suspension or any water base is void of an ester technically as it is already at water soluble, where as the ester is to prolong the compound to be formatted in water soluble solution,

fuck I am saying this wrong, I suck at explaining this shit but you guys get what I am saying, compounds need to be suspended in an oil with the exception of a few, but from oil the life of the ester eventually will allow it to be released in the blood as a water soluble compound, if it was water off the bat then it would not have a carbon molucule, only hydrogen and oxygen would be present, hence no ester.

In other words with a carbon attached to it there would be no ester.

Gal is right, although most say suspension is 1 day, but it is wrong, suspension is as long as the indivduals body takes to process, I suspect 6 hours at most.
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2014, 09:20:36 PM »

suspension or any water base is void of an ester technically as it is already at water soluble, where as the ester is to prolong the compound to be formatted in water soluble solution,

fuck I am saying this wrong, I suck at explaining this shit but you guys get what I am saying, compounds need to be suspended in an oil with the exception of a few, but from oil the life of the ester eventually will allow it to be released in the blood as a water soluble compound, if it was water off the bat then it would not have a carbon molucule, only hydrogen and oxygen would be present, hence no ester.

In other words with a carbon attached to it there would be no ester.

Gal is right, although most say suspension is 1 day, but it is wrong, suspension is as long as the indivduals body takes to process, I suspect 6 hours at most.
nono, upjonh claims the winny cristals or whatver take up to 8 days to be used up.

they are released randomly, not ester -esque and definitely longer than 1 day.

but bbuilders have found ed or eod to be effective for them so yeah,all good
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2014, 09:44:09 PM »

nono, upjonh claims the winny cristals or whatver take up to 8 days to be used up.

they are released randomly, not ester -esque and definitely longer than 1 day.

but bbuilders have found ed or eod to be effective for them so yeah,all good
I have taken upjohns winny back in the day and definitely needs to be administered daily, that claim is straight retarded, not a chance.

The only way this can happen with winny is if it lumps within the muscle and then it takes days for it to dissolve therefor releasing winny days later but that is artificially expanding its life, not the real thing, kind of silly if you ask me.

Some Orbit shit from Sweden tried this, the winny would lump once injected and take days for it to dissolve but I do not recall upjohn doing this. BTW painful as fuck.
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2014, 11:09:35 PM »

How meds are prescribed for patients is a lot different fro. How bbers PR athletes use them.

To give you an example, I have Winny 2mg tabs and the prescription reads 2 tabs a day. Works for a breast cancer patient.

For an athlete its a lame ass joke.
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« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2014, 11:57:58 PM »

Good stuff guys.  I learn new things on here all the time w/ even the most basic subjects.  Amazing.
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2014, 11:46:29 AM »

I have taken upjohns winny back in the day and definitely needs to be administered daily, that claim is straight retarded, not a chance.

The only way this can happen with winny is if it lumps within the muscle and then it takes days for it to dissolve therefor releasing winny days later but that is artificially expanding its life, not the real thing, kind of silly if you ask me.

Some Orbit shit from Sweden tried this, the winny would lump once injected and take days for it to dissolve but I do not recall upjohn doing this. BTW painful as fuck.
i love you lol, but when the manufacturer claims so, it will be so, when they say its random and up to 8 days, can mean anything, can mean most is even released initialy on  firts day and rest needs 8 days to clear.

i tried ed, e3-4d seemed same, as long the mgs were same.but then again i ran the whole buffet back then ,impossible to tell Cheesy

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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2014, 11:51:12 AM »

i love you lol, but when the manufacturer claims so, it will be so, when they say its random and up to 8 days, can mean anything, can mean most is even released initialy on  firts day and rest needs 8 days to clear.

i tried ed, e3-4d seemed same, as long the mgs were same.but then again i ran the whole buffet back then ,impossible to tell Cheesy


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