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« on: January 19, 2014, 07:34:11 PM »
New trial sought for South Carolina teen executed for 1944 murders

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(Reuters) - Attorneys in South Carolina say they have fresh evidence that warrants a new trial in the case of a 14-year-old black teenager put to death nearly 70 years ago for the murders of two white girls.

George Stinney Jr. was the youngest person to be executed in the United States in the last century, and attorneys say the request for another trial so long after a defendant's death is the first of its kind in the state.

No official record of the original court proceedings exists; no trial participants are alive, and no evidence was preserved. The law is unclear on whether any statute of limitations would prevent the case from being reopened.

Despite those obstacles, attorneys for Stinney's family will argue at a hearing on Tuesday that the crime that rocked the small mill town of Alcolu in 1944 deserves another look.

"This is a horrific case," defense lawyer Steven McKenzie said. "Whether justice is 70 years old or one year old or one month old, we think justice needs to be done."

The defense filed its motion requesting a new trial in October based on newly discovered evidence. Since then, new witnesses who could help exonerate Stinney have come forward, including a former cell mate who says the teen told him police forced his confession, attorneys said.

The defense also is relying on old newspaper accounts and a few records in state and county archives to make their case to a judge in Sumter, about 20 miles from the town where Stinney was tried and convicted.

Lawyers said they had determined Stinney was convicted solely on testimony by police who said the teen confessed to killing Betty June Binnicker, 11, and Mary Emma Thames, 7. The two girls disappeared on March 23, 1944, after leaving home on their bicycles to look for wildflowers.

The girls rode a distance of about a mile to a railroad track that divided the segregated town, according to the defense's account of the case in court records.

Stinney and his younger sister Amie were sitting on the tracks as their family cow grazed nearby. Stinney's sister recalls the girls asking where they could find flowers before both pairs of children went their separate ways.

Binnicker and Thames never returned home. A search party found their bodies the next morning in a shallow ditch behind a church. Their skulls had been crushed and the bicycles laid on top of them.

After Stinney told someone he had seen the girls along the railroad tracks, he was picked up by police and held for five days before being arrested, said Matthew Burgess, one of the attorneys seeking a new trial.

"Since he became identified as the person who had seen them last before they died, they decided to arrest him," Burgess said.

The teen's family was run out of town, and his siblings never saw him again, Burgess said.

SWIFT COURT PROCEEDINGS

Stinney's lawyers called no witnesses during his daylong trial a month after the murders, according to the current defense team, and a jury of white men deliberated for only 10 minutes before finding him guilty.

Then-governor Olin D. Johnston refused to grant clemency. Stinney, who weighed just 95 pounds, was executed by electrocution in June 1944.

Solicitor Ernest "Chip" Finney III, the prosecutor who will appear at the hearing this week for the state, said the case was the most interesting one ever to cross his desk. But he said he will argue that no information about the original trial exists to show it had been conducted improperly.

"We're talking about procedures and rules 70 years ago that none of us were around to understand," said Finney, son of the first black chief justice on the state's Supreme Court. "There's not going to be enough evidence to open it up."

Relatives of Binnicker, one of the girls killed, do not want the case revisited without good reason, Finney said.

"If there was strong evidence to support the fact that this young man was not involved, they would not want to see the case remain closed," the prosecutor said. "But they don't want to see it opened for the fact that South Carolina has a bad history in these kinds of cases."

Burgess said a member of the search party that found the girls' bodies has offered new testimony that raises questions about where the crime was carried out and whether Stinney was capable of doing it.

Stinney's sister, Amie Ruffner, now in her 70s and living in New Jersey, will testify that Stinney was with her the entire day of the murders and could not have killed the girls, Burgess said.

She was never asked to speak on her brother's behalf at the original trial.

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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2014, 07:35:22 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 07:43:25 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2014, 07:57:46 PM »
Blacks are the biggest natural disaster this country has ever seen.

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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2014, 03:08:34 AM »
New trial sought for South Carolina teen executed for 1944 murders

This is the only trash they can dig up in the South or want too. 
 
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(Reuters) - Attorneys in South Carolina say they have fresh evidence that warrants a new trial in the case of a 14-year-old black teenager put to death nearly 70 years ago for the murders of two white girls.

George Stinney Jr. was the youngest person to be executed in the United States in the last century, and attorneys say the request for another trial so long after a defendant's death is the first of its kind in the state.

No official record of the original court proceedings exists; no trial participants are alive, and no evidence was preserved. The law is unclear on whether any statute of limitations would prevent the case from being reopened.

Despite those obstacles, attorneys for Stinney's family will argue at a hearing on Tuesday that the crime that rocked the small mill town of Alcolu in 1944 deserves another look.

"This is a horrific case," defense lawyer Steven McKenzie said. "Whether justice is 70 years old or one year old or one month old, we think justice needs to be done."

The defense filed its motion requesting a new trial in October based on newly discovered evidence. Since then, new witnesses who could help exonerate Stinney have come forward, including a former cell mate who says the teen told him police forced his confession, attorneys said.

The defense also is relying on old newspaper accounts and a few records in state and county archives to make their case to a judge in Sumter, about 20 miles from the town where Stinney was tried and convicted.

Lawyers said they had determined Stinney was convicted solely on testimony by police who said the teen confessed to killing Betty June Binnicker, 11, and Mary Emma Thames, 7. The two girls disappeared on March 23, 1944, after leaving home on their bicycles to look for wildflowers.

The girls rode a distance of about a mile to a railroad track that divided the segregated town, according to the defense's account of the case in court records.

Stinney and his younger sister Amie were sitting on the tracks as their family cow grazed nearby. Stinney's sister recalls the girls asking where they could find flowers before both pairs of children went their separate ways.

Binnicker and Thames never returned home. A search party found their bodies the next morning in a shallow ditch behind a church. Their skulls had been crushed and the bicycles laid on top of them.

After Stinney told someone he had seen the girls along the railroad tracks, he was picked up by police and held for five days before being arrested, said Matthew Burgess, one of the attorneys seeking a new trial.

"Since he became identified as the person who had seen them last before they died, they decided to arrest him," Burgess said.

The teen's family was run out of town, and his siblings never saw him again, Burgess said.

SWIFT COURT PROCEEDINGS

Stinney's lawyers called no witnesses during his daylong trial a month after the murders, according to the current defense team, and a jury of white men deliberated for only 10 minutes before finding him guilty.

Then-governor Olin D. Johnston refused to grant clemency. Stinney, who weighed just 95 pounds, was executed by electrocution in June 1944.

Solicitor Ernest "Chip" Finney III, the prosecutor who will appear at the hearing this week for the state, said the case was the most interesting one ever to cross his desk. But he said he will argue that no information about the original trial exists to show it had been conducted improperly.

"We're talking about procedures and rules 70 years ago that none of us were around to understand," said Finney, son of the first black chief justice on the state's Supreme Court. "There's not going to be enough evidence to open it up."

Relatives of Binnicker, one of the girls killed, do not want the case revisited without good reason, Finney said.

"If there was strong evidence to support the fact that this young man was not involved, they would not want to see the case remain closed," the prosecutor said. "But they don't want to see it opened for the fact that South Carolina has a bad history in these kinds of cases."

Burgess said a member of the search party that found the girls' bodies has offered new testimony that raises questions about where the crime was carried out and whether Stinney was capable of doing it.

Stinney's sister, Amie Ruffner, now in her 70s and living in New Jersey, will testify that Stinney was with her the entire day of the murders and could not have killed the girls, Burgess said.

She was never asked to speak on her brother's behalf at the original trial.



Lot of good that would do..... :P
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2014, 04:25:44 AM »
Is this some sort of stimulus package by Obama for white guilt?
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2014, 05:32:17 AM »
Blacks are the biggest natural disaster this country has ever seen.

the native americans would strongly disagree

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2014, 05:36:01 AM »
the native americans would strongly disagree

attempted genocide ain't nothing compared to black youth.

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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2014, 05:58:15 AM »
Blacks always talk loud in public places where it is not the norm to do so.

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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2014, 06:29:39 AM »
Blacks are the biggest natural disaster this country has ever seen.

Truth.  And frankly I think a lot of black people (good and bad) know it.  What people will admit after earning trust and behind a closed door is astounding. 

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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2014, 06:40:57 AM »
So when they find him guilty will they dig him up and lynch him again?

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2014, 09:41:51 AM »
So when they find him guilty will they dig him up and lynch him again?


I don't even see how they found him guilty to begin with.  I would seriously doubt that a 95lb 14 year old kid would have the strength to beat 2 people to death with a 30 pound railroad spike.  These types of things were quite common in the old days.....more than likely the culprit was someone from an influential family and to avoid getting caught just blamed it on a n igger. 


They can retry the case and it would be thrown out but again....what good will it do for someone who's been dead for 70 years....justice only counts when the person is alive to witness it
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2014, 01:09:26 PM »
Blacks always talk loud in public places where it is not the norm to do so.

They need the attention. This is the truth. Notice they'll be loud then quickly look around as if anyone noticed them or at the very least they annoyed someone. The negative attention is good too. Any attention really.
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2014, 01:13:47 PM »
Why do black people walk/drive/bicycle slowly when they get in front of you?

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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2014, 01:52:37 PM »
Why do black people walk/drive/bicycle slowly when they get in front of you?

I noticed this just the other day and the reason I believe is that so many of them have no job or responsibilities, so why hurry?  They just "chill" with not a care in the world. Roger you would probably be a little slower if you weren't in a rush to get to work, pay your bills, drive your kids to soccer practice, volunteer at the historical museum etc.  

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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2014, 02:09:12 PM »
I noticed this just the other day and the reason I believe is that so many of them have no job or responsibilities, so why hurry?  They just "chill" with not a car in the world. Roger you would probably be a little slower if you weren't in a rush to get to work, pay your bills, drive your kids to soccer practice, volunteer at the historical museum etc. 

Hmmmm... Good point!



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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2014, 12:24:16 AM »
Why do black people walk/drive/bicycle slowly when they get in front of you?

i've seen this for years.  a few years ago i noticed that they actually walk slower if crossing the street when a white person is driving the car.  not sure if they do it to others as well.  this is particularly true of black women.

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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2014, 07:23:41 AM »
Why do black people walk/drive/bicycle slowly when they get in front of you?

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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2014, 11:46:53 AM »
Is it racist to hate "black culture"?


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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2014, 02:28:44 PM »
Is it racist to hate "black culture"?


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I don't know if its "black culture" its more of a rapper / ghetto culture.  I've seen white kids dressed and talking like lil Wayne who grew up in Bellevue (upscale city here in Washington). Can't stand the language, dress or attitude that comes with it.

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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2014, 07:25:08 PM »
I don't know if its "black culture" its more of a rapper / ghetto culture.  I've seen white kids dressed and talking like lil Wayne who grew up in Bellevue (upscale city here in Washington). Can't stand the language, dress or attitude that comes with it.

Good point, not fair of me to put it that way.

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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2014, 09:34:48 PM »
You think YOU hate it, you know how many black people I know can't stand it? Lots. Maybe its a PacNW thing but there are a ton of well educated blacks here that are cool as shit and just get raged over seeing people of that particular culture

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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2014, 01:26:47 AM »
You think YOU hate it, you know how many black people I know can't stand it? Lots. Maybe its a PacNW thing but there are a ton of well educated blacks here that are cool as shit and just get raged over seeing people of that particular culture

It's not just a PacNW thing. I'm in Canada, with family members in England, South America, US, Europe etc

There are A LOT of people all over the world who can't stand to have to see some kids underwear.

One of the few benefits of a polar vortex and minus 40 degree weather, is the kids both black & white start pulling up their damned pants.
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2014, 01:45:52 PM »
You think YOU hate it, you know how many black people I know can't stand it? Lots. Maybe its a PacNW thing but there are a ton of well educated blacks here that are cool as shit and just get raged over seeing people of that particular culture

That I know very well. When I rag on blacks it these scum c.unts I'm ragging on. Not a decent educated black guy. I've no issues with them
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