adam im never serious when it comes to these natural or not questions.
simply bc it doesnt matter.
just having fun, will call cutler a lifetime natural , will accuse che of steroid use

it simply dont matter, all each individual can do is train natty for themselves until they feel they maxed out, ppl at this stage will have different results, then they can add bit gear, here some will respond phenomenaly, some wont, etc.
i only care about me

that said,the guy has no size at all and loks like utter shit if not shredded.
why would i care about such a person, i look like a god statue year round

i no care about ppl who cant do the same, theres nothing to learn from them for me.
same for the bigger guys who are fatsos 11 months out of 1 year,and then blow up 40lbs post contest.got nothing to learn from them either, no care on how much gramms of what they are.
its not even i believe or not, its literaly no care
