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Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« on: January 21, 2014, 06:29:28 PM »
In the morning....once in a while, for energy not appetite control.

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2014, 06:42:12 PM »
I notice clen and b12 makes me hungry

always thought it was increased metabolism burning up calories

just jumped back on gh and I get so damn tired, although hunger isn't a prob yet

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2014, 06:46:48 PM »
maybe its the slight metablism increase.

cardio makes me much more hungry than the calories burned shoudl do,i always have to be careful with food post cardio.


a metabolic speed up can do that.

but really, maybe its the gear, the efedrine absolutely normaly will kill apetite.this doesnt mean one cant eat, but most dont feel like eating.

usualy when the efedrine effect fades out, this is where apetite and hunger can have furious comebacks
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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2014, 06:51:11 PM »
maybe its the slight metablism increase.

cardio makes me much more hungry than the calories burned shoudl do,i always have to be careful with food post cardio.


a metabolic speed up can do that.

but really, maybe its the gear, the efedrine absolutely normaly will kill apetite.this doesnt mean one cant eat, but most dont feel like eating.

usualy when the efedrine effect fades out, this is where apetite and hunger can have furious comebacks

How long does the ephedrine appetite suppression last? I take 50 (2 bronkaid) 

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2014, 06:54:33 PM »
Ephedrine's appetite suppressing effect wears off in a couple weeks. How long have you been on?
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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2014, 06:56:12 PM »
Wtf has it always been like this for you?

Try taking 500mg l-tyrosine with each dose.  That should quell your appetite

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2014, 06:59:41 PM »
Wtf has it always been like this for you?

Try taking 500mg l-tyrosine with each dose.  That should quell your appetite

The appetite is not the issue.....more so the weird side effect. I don't suffer from stufffacewithnocontrolia .....

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2014, 07:02:50 PM »
The appetite is not the issue.....more so the weird side effect. I don't suffer from stufffacewithnocontrolia .....

I thought the weird side effect was increased appetite ???

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2014, 07:05:43 PM »
I thought the weird side effect was increased appetite ???

Yeah I fuked that up  ;D

I meant, I don't need help controlling appetite but am perplexed by "being hungry like" side effect.

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2014, 07:26:50 PM »
How long does the ephedrine appetite suppression last? I take 50 (2 bronkaid) 
many many hours for me.

but apetite can be triggered more by bloodsugar drops, ie, depends what the diet is like and what was eaten before.

its an ampethamine derivate, it should kill apetite by its very nature
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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2014, 07:55:51 PM »
I get serious hunger cravings at night if I take EC, because I won't take it past 4pm at the very latest so I can still sleep

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2014, 08:02:48 PM »
I get serious hunger cravings at night if I take EC, because I won't take it past 4pm at the very latest so I can still sleep
yeah this is normal, when it fades out, theres the risk of messing all the good effects of it up with a binge.
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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2014, 08:02:55 PM »
Yeah I fuked that up  ;D

I meant, I don't need help controlling appetite but am perplexed by "being hungry like" side effect.

3 things i could think of:
1) you are able to exercise harder on ECA, revving your metabolism and appetite
2) Ephedrine induces insulin resistance, causing blood glucose to raise a bit. This, in turn, might be wreaking havoc on your insulin/ghrelin levels, somehow leading to hunger
3) this is just a temporary coincidence, nothing to do with the ECA specifically.  Dieting causes your body to play tricks on you, and this is just that

The sense of hunger is caused by so many different things within the body, it's impossible to pinpoint the cause here.  Stop taking the ECA for a week and see what happens to your appetite.  Or don't.... even if you get hungry from it, its still doing its job

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2014, 08:08:21 PM »
oh i had no idea e causes insulin resistance.

yeah idet is mainly responsible for hunger attacks.

and unusal harder workout , if you suddenky get stronger and add cardio f.e.

or when the body shifts into fatburning mostly mode, which is basicaly diet related again.

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2014, 08:16:55 PM »
oh i had no idea e causes insulin resistance.

yeah idet is mainly responsible for hunger attacks.

and unusal harder workout , if you suddenky get stronger and add cardio f.e.

or when the body shifts into fatburning mostly mode, which is basicaly diet related again.



Yup, same with gh.

OTH turned me on to the magic of ephedrine with no-carb diet.  It seriously feels 2-3x as strong. I think it's because carbs + eca-induced insulin resistance leads to high BG, which in turn leads to lethargy.  The ephedrine counters the lethargy somewhat, but it's no where near as strong as when taken on an empty stomach

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2014, 08:27:39 PM »
yeah many ppl take the efedrine too soon, for fuck all basicaly.

what i mean, at a level where noone should be using it.

fatburners are for when you hit the plateau, the little extra.

the fatburning effect itself is small, the useful thing is it keep those brutal hunger panic attacks at bay, gives energy to fight the lethargy, increases training energy, and thus overall helps to stay active.

the fatburing still comes from training, diet and being active.

its just a diets finishing touch.

if pl say ill use it from the getgo and then see, they will be disapointed.
same with anto estrogens, they should come in when you hit a wall.

another thing is,efedrine has a high tolerance factor, as in, you get used to the dosage pretty quick and the effect will be smaller unless you up the dose or take a break.

i dont even use it, e and clen have made my heartrate go up at times,for few seconds only, to where it felt like a machinegun.
this can mean a very close call to a stroke.
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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2014, 10:04:02 PM »
Yup, that's basically it....I've always considered it to have 4-5 benefits:
-appetite suppression
-extra energy/improved workouts
-diuretic, good for junk food bloat
-burns a little extra fat
-has an anti-catabolic effect, at least for naturals... probably due to suppression of cortisol

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2014, 10:27:12 PM »
bump in metabolism maybe.

are you doing more cardio on the ECA? cardio makes me hungry as fucking hell.

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2014, 10:31:21 PM »
Post workout cardio is the ticket. No hunger.
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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2014, 07:17:30 AM »
bump in metabolism maybe.

are you doing more cardio on the ECA? cardio makes me hungry as fucking hell.
same here, after cardio the hunger is almost unbearable, this happens when one is hugely muscular, like you,or me.

meanwhile

Post workout cardio is the ticket. No hunger.
this happens to the twinks
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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2014, 07:19:57 AM »
Im always hungry after swimming.  :-\

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2014, 07:21:22 AM »
2 bronks seem like a lot of ephedrine. How much caffeine and aspirin?

I get a nice little 90 minute kick out of half a bronk, 200mg aspirin and a large DD coffee.

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2014, 07:29:09 AM »
2 bronks seem like a lot of ephedrine. How much caffeine and aspirin?

I get a nice little 90 minute kick out of half a bronk, 200mg aspirin and a large DD coffee.

2 bronk 650 aspirin (2 tabs) 400 caf. So 222 of everything

And 1 500 oxycodone for the shoulder

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2014, 07:30:46 AM »
bump in metabolism maybe.

are you doing more cardio on the ECA? cardio makes me hungry as fucking hell.

Moderate to end workout nothing to write home about.....

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Re: Why does my appetite go UP when using ECA stack?
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2014, 07:32:01 AM »
for me it's the opposite.  I don't get hungry at all when taking it