People who work in the abortion industry

[phreak]

excellent point.  problem is most pro-choice people don't think the fetus has any rights while usually trying to justify the woman's stupidity and selfishness with poor associations with actual rights. 

bottom line from a moral standpoint is that human life has rights and if you believe in basic human rights they win by default.  clearly simplifying the argument but a strong one nonetheless.

That opens up the whole "where does human life start" argument.

IMO a functional nervous system and the ability to survive without an incubator is where life starts. And being intellectually honest, that is also where life should end, if neither of those criteria is fulfilled.

[phreak]

thread is alive bro

Not too late for an abortion.

[johnnynoname]

the people in the Abortion industry must be taking a real hit from this political correctness era


I mean- people aren't ashamed to have retarded kids anymore

Remember that documentary "300" where if you were a baby boy and you had like a disability they would just throw you in the ocean.......ah, the good old days


shit- if that was the case there would still be 39 kindergartners alive in Sandy Hook and there would be less Vince Goodrum threads

[JBGRAY]

The vast majority of abortions are of future inmates...a woman KNOWS when she is unable to take care of her child.  I'm sure you'd want millions of rampaging teens and young adults (which would likely be comprised of a majority of minorities) that grew up in broken households, drug and alcohol abuse, and shattered families. Billions more would have to be spent on medicare costs, social programs, prison construction, law enforcement, and increased pressures on energy grids (due to more people). Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, more victims of crime.

Yes...what a lack of moral compass for Pro-Choicers  

[_bruce_]

The unborn is property of the mum unfortunately.
In cases of rape, fatal diseases I agree with removing "it" although it's ultimately the women's choice and as a man such issues, including vaginal health, are not on my agenda.
It's like if I practice sniffing my balls or not - off limits for women.

[johnnynoname]

I cry into a pillow every night

[agenda21nwo]

The vast majority of abortions are of future inmates...a woman KNOWS when she is unable to take care of her child.  I'm sure you'd want millions of rampaging teens and young adults (which would likely be comprised of a majority of minorities) that grew up in broken households, drug and alcohol abuse, and shattered families. Billions more would have to be spent on medicare costs, social programs, prison construction, law enforcement, and increased pressures on energy grids (due to more people). Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, more victims of crime.

Yes...what a lack of moral compass for Pro-Choicers  

A society which kills 55 million babies is evil, so there is some truth in what you say.  But a society which cherishes life would not fit the image you have described.

[calfzilla]

The vast majority of abortions are of future inmates...a woman KNOWS when she is unable to take care of her child.  I'm sure you'd want millions of rampaging teens and young adults (which would likely be comprised of a majority of minorities) that grew up in broken households, drug and alcohol abuse, and shattered families. Billions more would have to be spent on medicare costs, social programs, prison construction, law enforcement, and increased pressures on energy grids (due to more people). Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, more victims of crime.

Yes...what a lack of moral compass for Pro-Choicers  

Good points. Another argument I bring up is that a large percentage of people who have abortions are black. So the question I ask the pro lifers is why aren't you running out adopting some black babies?  Put your money where your mouth is. No, no it's easier just to push agendas and beliefs on others.

[agenda21nwo]

Real peoples stories.  Very sad and disturbing.

[JBGRAY]

People who are ardently against abortion support the following:

- Environmental destruction
- Higher violent crime rates
- Increased poverty
- Animal cruelty
- Increase in the amount of thugs wearing police uniforms
- Increase in prison construction
- Man-made Climate Change (real or not)
- Illiteracy and ignorance

Have you been to the Philippines?  It is dominated by the Catholic Church, a series of gleaming towers and buildings surrounded by millions of poor, uneducated "squatters" that trash the very land they tread upon, squatter families having upwards of 12 children at a time.

[Brixtonbulldog]

That opens up the whole "where does human life start" argument.

IMO a functional nervous system and the ability to survive without an incubator is where life starts. And being intellectually honest, that is also where life should end, if neither of those criteria is fulfilled.

true, i believe it should be based on that.  but i think a lot of ppl think your criteria is a little reckless.  erring on the side of safety is prolly the best bet.  again, opinion.

[Brixtonbulldog]

The vast majority of abortions are of future inmates...a woman KNOWS when she is unable to take care of her child.  I'm sure you'd want millions of rampaging teens and young adults (which would likely be comprised of a majority of minorities) that grew up in broken households, drug and alcohol abuse, and shattered families. Billions more would have to be spent on medicare costs, social programs, prison construction, law enforcement, and increased pressures on energy grids (due to more people). Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, more victims of crime.

Yes...what a lack of moral compass for Pro-Choicers  

^prolly the best argument for abortion there is (even a generally pro-life person like myself agrees)

..but let's not pretend that the good of society is on the mind of most getting and supporting abortions.  it's preservation of one's lifestyle and little else.

[Brixtonbulldog]

The unborn is property of the mum unfortunately.
In cases of rape, fatal diseases I agree with removing "it" although it's ultimately the women's choice and as a man such issues, including vaginal health, are not on my agenda.
It's like if I practice sniffing my balls or not - off limits for women.

not so sure about the 'property' issue.  women biologically carry another life in them.  that doesn't necessarily give them a right to kill a living being whether it's inside or out.  tough for them but they should get over that mental hurdle and at least give it the credit a fetus deserves. 

[Brixtonbulldog]

Real peoples stories.  Very sad and disturbing.

a jones is nutjob.  agree with his values for the most part but he still lives in imagination land.

[Brixtonbulldog]

People who are ardently against abortion support the following:

- Environmental destruction
- Higher violent crime rates
- Increased poverty
- Animal cruelty
- Increase in the amount of thugs wearing police uniforms
- Increase in prison construction
- Man-made Climate Change (real or not)
- Illiteracy and ignorance

Have you been to the Philippines?  It is dominated by the Catholic Church, a series of gleaming towers and buildings surrounded by millions of poor, uneducated "squatters" that trash the very land they tread upon, squatter families having upwards of 12 children at a time.

dumbest and most inaccurate post ever.  what you describe more closely mimics socialism (aka: liberalism) and every socialist/communist country i can imagine. 

[The True Adonis]

All joking and trolling aside, I believe most people who have abortions have either some remorse or at least some type of mental stress over it. Not a decision one takes lightly I assume.

Doubt it.  But this is a good thing.

[galeniko]

leave the decision to the woman and thats that.

i mean where is the start, is using a condom an indirect abortion too?

nobdoy does abortion for fun.

[---]

leave the decision to the woman and thats that.

i mean where is the start, is using a condom an indirect abortion too?

nobdoy does abortion for fun.

Agreed on the "womans choice" point but wearing a condom isn't really abortion as there isn't a foetus, a sperm is only half the job.
The op agrees to abortion in certain circumstances yet starts a thread castigating the people performing the abortions he is fine with??

[Brixtonbulldog]

Agreed on the "womans choice" point but wearing a condom isn't really abortion as there isn't a foetus, a sperm is only half the job.
The op agrees to abortion in certain circumstances yet starts a thread castigating the people performing the abortions he is fine with??

might be with you on his motives but he has a point about the 'type' who gravitates to work in that industry and their motives. 

[The True Adonis]

I think people who are against abortion should pay more in taxes and government aid to the welfare babies.  I also think they should be given incentive or forced to adopt since they seem to think overpopulation is a positive thing.

[Brixtonbulldog]

I think people who are against abortion should pay more in taxes and government aid to the welfare babies.  I also think they should be given incentive or forced to adopt since they seem to think overpopulation is a positive thing.

no.  but i'd pay extra to ensure those unfit to have kids don't/can't get prego in the first place.  especially if those that did paid extra to support the welfare state for which they demand.

[Wiggs]

Yes Agenda. It's pure evil. Simple as that.

[The True Adonis]

no.  but i'd pay extra to ensure those unfit to have kids don't/can't get prego in the first place.  especially if those that did paid extra to support the welfare state for which they demand.

No, you should pay more to support the welfare babies and suffer a penalty for allowing the standard of living to be lowered.

[galeniko]

might be with you on his motives but he has a point about the 'type' who gravitates to work in that industry and their motives. 

hold on, are there abortion only nurses?

here there arent.

nurses and docs are very good ppl, doing jobs that nobody else can be bothered with.


they have to have steels of nerves,they see repulsive things during ops, or when ppl are delivered with wounds etc.

life in danger, boom, theres no fucking about must pust hands into bowels if need be.

i have yet to see 1 doc or nurse whos there for the wrong motives.well, excpet the beauty-op docs

[Brixtonbulldog]

No, you should pay more to support the welfare babies and suffer a penalty for allowing the standard of living to be lowered.

No.  I shouldn't have to pay for another person's stupidity or irresponsibility.  That's why I'm not a leftist shitbag.