I wasted a lot of time Hoisting and Lifting weights like Chaos.

[The True Adonis]

Wow, unachievable without roids.

[Coach is Back!]

Yes, just look at this Density only roids can provide.  You are a moron.

Yup

[The True Adonis]

This amount of muscle is just impossible to obtain without roids.

[The True Adonis]

Paging the juice factory, we need to give this guy his weekly stack of 2000 grams of testosterone.

[Coach is Back!]

Paging the juice factory, we need to give this guy his weekly stack of 2000 grams of testosterone.

You're one naive little man.

[The True Adonis]

You are just jealous that Jeff is an accomplished physical therapist working with a ton of Pro athletes as well as actors and actresses.

[The True Adonis]

Jeff`s roided out physique OWNS you.  Here he is on 2000 grams of trenbolone.

[Coach is Back!]

You are just jealous that Jeff is an accomplished physical therapist working with a ton of Pro athletes as well as actors and actresses.

Awesome, good for him. I work with pro athletes as well. What's your point?

[Coach is Back!]

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[bigmc]

i feel bad for doubting adam

its obvious that he is still in the same shape as his pics of 12 years ago

of course they are timely reminder of how great he must look now

i cant think of a single reason why someone who posted the pics about ten thousand times when he was clearly in great shape


would post a newer pic to prove he is still in shape 40 years later

the mod from here that "claims" they saw him and he looks tiny clearly has an agenda

here is my recent pic that i had taken about the last time adam posted his most recent pic

i am sure this pic gives all my training advice the same level of credibility as ta

[The True Adonis]

Awesome, good for him. I work with pro athletes as well. What's your point?

If you think that either are on roids, then your credibility as a trainer is just gone at this point.  Why do I say this?  Because you are in fact admitting that all of your training methods and all of your workouts are unable to get anyone to the level of these two guys.  So in effect, you are just telling us all how worthless your methods are if you cannot even get a single person to these guys level.

You just told on yourself and did not even realize it.

[---]

here is my recent pic that i had taken about the last time adam posted his most recent pic

i am sure this pic gives all my training advice the same level of credibility as ta

You looked better there than you do now, you have really let yourslf go since that was taken.

[bigmc]

You looked better there than you do now, you have really let yourslf go since that was taken.

lol

very funny

welcome back 

[Coach is Back!]

If you think that either are on roids, then your credibility as a trainer is just gone at this point.  Why do I say this?  Because you are in fact admitting that all of your training methods and all of your workouts are unable to get anyone to the level of these two guys.  So in effect, you are just telling us all how worthless your methods are if you cannot even get a single person to these guys level.

You just told on yourself and did not even realize it.

I don't train wannabe bodybuilders, competitive bodybuilders or physique competitors so i could careless.

[The True Adonis]

I don't train wannabe bodybuilders, competitive bodybuilders or physique competitors so i could careless.

At least you admit your methods are pure shit for gaining a few pounds of muscle mass.  You oughta add a disclaimer, "Gain no muscle, hoist weights, look like shit".

[Wolfox]

At least you admit your methods are pure shit for gaining a few pounds of muscle mass.  You oughta add a disclaimer, "Gain no muscle, hoist weights, look like shit".

Pretty sure he works with kids who are looking to gain mass for football...especially those on the line.

[The True Adonis]

Pretty sure he works with kids who are looking to gain mass for football...especially those on the line.

Not gonna happen.  It beyond his capability. 

[Wolfox]

Normally I'm right with Coach backing him up as everyone attacks him... but here, Adonis is ripping him a new one and rightfully so.  

[Wolfox]

Come on coach you know better than this. You train any highschool kids that go off to play d1 ball? A lot of those kids are freaks. Bigger, faster and stronger than most of the roiders around here.

[Wolfox]

Coach I recall you saying you have assisted with the strength training @ USC. How could you see those athletes and not further expand in your mind the possibilities of what is natural? Those dudes are freaks and most are just on creatine.

[tom joad]

Coach I recall you saying you have assisted with the strength training @ USC. How could you see those athletes and not further expand in your mind the possibilities of what is natural? Those dudes are freaks and most are just on creatine.

Coach himself probably juiced from day 1 so he has no idea that some decent muscle and a six pack can be attained without roids haha.

[chaos]

Chaos and lifting heavy shit picking up alot of empty real estate on getbig lately.

[Coach is Back!]

At least you admit your methods are pure shit for gaining a few pounds of muscle mass.  You oughta add a disclaimer, "Gain no muscle, hoist weights, look like shit".

LOL...whatever you say, junior.

[Coach is Back!]

Coach himself probably juiced from day 1 so he has no idea that some decent muscle and a six pack can be attained without roids haha.

Ok, Choad. lol

[Hulkotron]

In my experience it takes enormous strength to do side laterals with good form (full ROM no swinging faggotry and actually hitting the lateral delt primarily) with more than 20 or perhaps 25 lb DBs.

That is not to say you can't get good gains from doing bigger weight with shit form though.