I read the first couple pages and now this thread is up to 12. I'm not reading all that shit, is everyone still arguing about some dude who's got a half decent build? Lots of shitty genetics around here thinking juice is needed for that physique. And for the OP, yeah we get your natural. Dont worry I didnt mistake you for on juice. Decent build but your delts wouldnt be so round like someone on gear if you actually dropped to 6%. You're lean , really good shape, but not that lean