Bill O'Reilly Asks: Why Do So Many Fear Blacks?

[temple_of_dis]

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[SamoanIrishman]

He brought up a good point. I wonder how much credibility it would bring to Sharpton and JJ showed up there and chastised the community for doing / protecting those who did such a horrible thing.

I've always thought of them as opportunist and racial war inciters. They preach peace, unity, forgiveness and how we all need to get along but always with a caveat. Its like - "lets all learn to love each other and get along.....but seriously white people need to stop trying to pushing us around"

IDK...weird since even in Samoa there is racism. They pretty much look down on every one equally though       

For me it will always be an issue either I or my kids will have to deal with. I have an adopted Philipino / Samoan daughter, Spanish and white daughters, my son is black and white (wife is 1/2 black).

So basically in my house I got white, black, Pac Islander, Asian and Hispanic. All bases covered 

[temple_of_dis]

well its funny how even the people he brings on kinda deny that blacks are violent and this has been counted

numer of murders
rapes

and its all not to whitey lots of other blacks are killed and raped

why is this such a problem for only American Africans?  I think its mental disease personally.

[Parker]

Let's go back to the 60s Civil Rights era shall we? By the 70s, black men are viewed as a physical "threat", and coincidentally this is when black on black crime exploded. And a lot of media--- "blaxplotation" films glorifying the angry Negro who was "fighting THE MAN".

Before that, black men were viewed as "yella", even in the early 1900s, a white man would not box a black man in the ring because he was view inferior, and didn't know how to fight (or the white guy in questioned didn't want to be beat.)
Even Jack Johnson had to fight in the basement.

So think about this, before the 1960s, Black men were thought of as easily controlled, non-violent push-overs. And by the 70s, they are thought of as uber masculine, uber violent criminals.

My, how the powers that be can change societies perception through media and marketing.

[SamoanIrishman]

well its funny how even the people he brings on kinda deny that blacks are violent and this has been counted

numer of murders
rapes

and its all not to whitey lots of other blacks are killed and raped

why is this such a problem for only American Africans?  I think its mental disease personally.

Agreed. Because I see both Hispanic, white and black "thugs" / "gangstas" everywhere. They learn the behaviors and no one corrects their course. No one says "No, that is NOT how you are to behave." Instead they adapt to surroundings of which are all the other kids that walk and talk the same way. Lack of parental guidance, media, music, LACK OF PARENTAL GUIDANCE (yeah I said it twice) all are a major part of fail.

Like the human kids back in the day that were found to be raised by wolves. To survive you WILL become your environment.

[24KT]

Let's go back to the 60s Civil Rights era shall we? By the 70s, black men are viewed as a physical "threat", and coincidentally this is when black on black crime exploded. And a lot of media--- "blaxplotation" films glorifying the angry Negro who was "fighting THE MAN".

Before that, black men were viewed as "yella", even in the early 1900s, a white man would not box a black man in the ring because he was view inferior, and didn't know how to fight (or the white guy in questioned didn't want to be beat.)
Even Jack Johnson had to fight in the basement.

So think about this, before the 1960s, Black men were thought of as easily controlled, non-violent push-overs. And by the 70s, they are thought of as uber masculine, uber violent criminals.

My, how the powers that be can change societies perception through media and marketing.

[SamoanIrishman]

I wonder if the world destroyed all music and television to the standards of 1950 how long would it take before you see a decline in violence and ghetto-ness?

[temple_of_dis]

7.3 months

[SamoanIrishman]

You know temple I know I give you shit sometimes but honestly we have lot of the same ideals. Weird.... but respect good or different

[tonymctones]

Let's go back to the 60s Civil Rights era shall we? By the 70s, black men are viewed as a physical "threat", and coincidentally this is when black on black crime exploded. And a lot of media--- "blaxplotation" films glorifying the angry Negro who was "fighting THE MAN".

Before that, black men were viewed as "yella", even in the early 1900s, a white man would not box a black man in the ring because he was view inferior, and didn't know how to fight (or the white guy in questioned didn't want to be beat.)
Even Jack Johnson had to fight in the basement.

So think about this, before the 1960s, Black men were thought of as easily controlled, non-violent push-overs. And by the 70s, they are thought of as uber masculine, uber violent criminals.

My, how the powers that be can change societies perception through media and marketing.

sorry parker I dont think it is do to the media and marketing. When you see the disproportionately high amount of blacks in the correctional system, commiting crimes etc its easy to see why that stigma follows blacks.

[Parker]

sorry parker I dont think it is do to the media and marketing. When you see the disproportionately high amount of blacks in the correctional system, commiting crimes etc its easy to see why that stigma follows blacks.

helped along by the media...music, marketing etc.
As I have stated before, look to the Baby Boomer generation for many of the social ills that have befallen their children. And as I stated, before the late 50s to 1960s, black men, particularly in the South were viewed as yella. In fact, during the Civil War it was concluded that blacks lacked discipline and a fighting spirit, but all black regiments nullified that.
And then all of sudden by the late 60s to 70s, especially with the films, and also the explosion in black on black crime, and black athletes, black men are seen as physical threats, and imposing figures? Come on...
Yes, high incarceratation rates can contribute to the perception of black men as "criminals" (and then the music put out glorifying street life).

[tonymctones]

helped along by the media...music, marketing etc.
As I have stated before, look to the Baby Boomer generation for many of the social ills that have befallen their children. And as I stated, before the late 50s to 1960s, black men, particularly in the South were viewed as yella. In fact, during the Civil War it was concluded that blacks lacked discipline and a fighting spirit, but all black regiments nullified that.
And then all of sudden by the late 60s to 70s, especially with the films, and also the explosion in black on black crime, and black athletes, black men are seen as physical threats, and imposing figures? Come on...
Yes, high incarceratation rates can contribute to the perception of black men as "criminals" (and then the music put out glorifying street life).

I agree with you that its the parents of the youth that are mainly responsible for their childrens issues. The media doesnt glorify it b/c they are pushing an agenda, they glorify it b/c thats what sales...

you may have been correct decades ago with the media pushing a certain story. These days I think the perception of blacks is due to the issues that are the biggest issues within the black community: incarciration rates, violence, drugs, lack of education etc.

[SamoanIrishman]

I agree with you that its the parents of the youth that are mainly responsible for their childrens issues. The media doesnt glorify it b/c they are pushing an agenda, they glorify it b/c thats what sales...

you may have been correct decades ago with the media pushing a certain story. These days I think the perception of blacks is due to the issues that are the biggest issues within the black community: incarciration rates, violence, drugs, lack of education etc.

No man I still think it comes down to drive and parental involvement. There are TONS of stories of black kids raised in violent areas where drugs and gangs are but they and their parent make it a priority to do better. They went to the same public schools as the others did. They just had support to take it seriously

[polychronopolous]

Let's go back to the 60s Civil Rights era shall we? By the 70s, black men are viewed as a physical "threat", and coincidentally this is when black on black crime exploded. And a lot of media--- "blaxplotation" films glorifying the angry Negro who was "fighting THE MAN".

Before that, black men were viewed as "yella", even in the early 1900s, a white man would not box a black man in the ring because he was view inferior, and didn't know how to fight (or the white guy in questioned didn't want to be beat.)
Even Jack Johnson had to fight in the basement.

So think about this, before the 1960s, Black men were thought of as easily controlled, non-violent push-overs. And by the 70s, they are thought of as uber masculine, uber violent criminals.

My, how the powers that be can change societies perception through media and marketing.

Stone cold truth right there.

One of the reasons Parker has always been one of my favorite posters.

So many times comes with a different angle that I've never really considered.

[tonymctones]

No man I still think it comes down to drive and parental involvement. There are TONS of stories of black kids raised in violent areas where drugs and gangs are but they and their parent make it a priority to do better. They went to the same public schools as the others did. They just had support to take it seriously

I completely agree with you, most people these days have a sense of entitlement for whatever reason and either dont want to or arent willing to do whats necessary to improve their circumstances.

[SamoanIrishman]

I think the USA should implement a mandatory 2yr military service. I think it could do wonders for a lot of young ones.

[24KT]

I think the USA should implement a mandatory 2yr military service. I think it could do wonders for a lot of young ones.

It's done wonders in Canada... it's kept alot of Canadians from going back to Israel, and Italy, and other countries where mandatory military service is in place. HA! 

[heavysquatter]

oriley is a very smart man